MS361 Airfilter problem !!! IMPORTANT

[ShoerFast]

You obviously make your living by complaining.

17 minutes out here,,,,the closest Stihl dealer just locked the doors,,,,, I would bet (beer) that if I were just pulling in,,,and really needed something, the doors would open?

And for a shot with that beer, I would bet that I need to remember it the next time I'm there to get it on the bill?

 

[ShoerFast]

He's just an ambulance-chasing lawyer in training

Dose that course come with a fake neck-brace and an arm sling?

 

[windthrown]

Now, how does what I am or how I post have anything to do with the topic?

Yes, that's exactly my point.

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As for this thread's topic I ask, WHERE IS THE DAMAGE TO THE SAW!?!?!?!

I see some sawdust in pictures... I do not see any damage, nor is the original poster observing any change in the saw's performance. So I do not seee the point in getting all riled up, or piling onto this thread. But you assert that sawdust must equate to damage, and therefor Stihl is liable, must replace the saw, the seller should bend over and take it up the fundament, and as a correlary, the entire Stihl lineup sucks, and anyone that thinks otherwise is being fed horse manure and smelling roses???

"I see," said the blind man to his deaf son... time to put Space on my iggy list with Gobby so that they can debate with the air.

 

[spacemule]

Yes, that's exactly my point.

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As for this thread's topic I ask, WHERE IS THE DAMAGE TO THE SAW!?!?!?!

Let me ask you this. If unfiltered air and dust do not damage the saw, why are they equipped with filters? Will you take the filter off of your saw? If you dealer runs a new saw with no filter, should the customer be expected to take it?

About that being your point, I fail to see how a 200 word paragraph about my delusional self is making the point that air filters are not important. Can you explain that for me? Since I'm a neophyte that has no business talking about saws. . .

 

[tatra805]

Windthrown,

Allow me to take it up from another side. I dont want to get into an argue here.
AS is full with people with tons more experience than me and also some with less. Why did i post:

- sharing info
-getting info on the cause: filter is leaking
-getting info on the cure: fleece filter, or my suggested milling
-getting info on the damage: still no answer on that one

Say, i post the question as follows: I was cutting over a period of 3-6 tanks without airfilter on my saw. I´m so stupid, i forgot to put the filter back on. How big is the damage?

Would your answer be any different?
What would your answer be? I really still need-want to know everybodies opinion on that. Do i have damage or not? and if yes how much?


Involving stihl in it has to do with, as you already understood from previous posts, with finding a solution, not with finding a guilty party.

I make myself no illusions about how far a warranty covers. It would only be damn pitty to have damaged my saw and not have mentioned it / warn to all the other 361 owners.

Let me add this. If she dies tomorrow from this, i will rebuild here. Not because i have to but because a chainsaw is a fun part of my life, not a working part /work also being fun though/ and i would learn something for sure in the progress.
If i would be neutral about saws i probably bought a 100 dollar wild thing and replace it every saison and accept that its life is that short. With a bit of luck i would even be able to have it exchanged under warranty every time. NOT ME.


So can you understand that i am in first place worried about my saw, not about who did what wrong or who is right after all.

1 life, live it. 1 life, no time to argue over doing the dishes.

 

[windthrown]

Well, somewhere along the path to enlightenment, a lot of Sapce:censored: debris has popped out of the woodwork and stirred up the shyte up on this thread. Sadly. I do not place blame for your being an idiot or fault you for running your 361 with the mesh filter instead of the fleece one. You were ignorant of the flaw. No big deal.

However, my point was (and remains) that this is not a huge issue in the general sence of the vast majority of other 361 saws out there. Most all of them have the fleece filters. I have gotten several notes from other AS'ers agreeing with this 'much ado about nothing' concept. The other point is that I do not equate sawdust in the filter area as a direct sign of saw damage, nor do I believe that it should be replaced if there is no damage. If there is damage, OK, then they should replace it. Not that Stihl listens to me about warantee work or replacements. However, in my experience using the 361 saw, and a lot of different Stihl saws over the years in general, I believe that your saw will not be damaged as a result of running it with the mesh filter. I have not read anything here about your saw running poorly or seizing up. Has it? Maybe I missed something here....

In the warning case that you mention, yes, I agree that others with this mesh filter on their saws should replace it with a fleece one. I think that has been covered in the discussion and agreed upon though. Also, it seems that the filters were distributed for use in special circumstances on a limited basis, so I do not think that it is a widespread issue.

Just my opinion... and some others' here as well. Its cool (except Space:censored.

 

[stevethekiwi]

ive said it before and ill say it again...

i love air injection

 

[SawTroll]

ive said it before and ill say it again...

I love air injection

I had the top cover (not just the filter cover) and starter cover off my 372xp for the first time yesterday.
I expected some wood chips and dust between the cooling ribs on the jug, but there were none.....


...and the coil is blue....

 

[stevethekiwi]

I had the top cover and starter cover off my 372xp for the first time yesterday.

Troll, thats unlike you...

 

[pgg]

I've never seen dust go through an air filter

 

[SawTroll]

I've never seen dust go through an air filter

Usually the dust go around the filter, I believe......

 

[stevethekiwi]

I've never seen dust go through an air filter

the only dust i have seen go through an AF is on the larger Poulan Pro's with the nylon "half pipe" AF, or the mid - large displacement stihls that i dont want to mention because it will open a large can of worms that i cant be bothered containing :monkey:

sorry lake


STK

 

[stevethekiwi]

Usually the dust go around the filter, I believe......

yes, depending on:

climate conditions
micron tolerence of filter
operating use
filter condition
filter maintenance

 

[2000ssm6]

yes, depending on:

climate conditions
micron tolerence of filter
operating use
filter condition
filter maintenance

Well that just shot your biased opinion all to hell........

 

[harrygrey382]

I'm not trying to 5hit stier here, but what damage does sawdust do if it gets in the combustion chamber? Surely its soft combustable stuff and won't damage the bore and bearings. Unlike dust that is abrasive and a machine killer, I've never been TOO worried about a little soft sawdust getting through... In moderation that is.

Maybe it's an indicator of other stuff getting through, but I haven't seen it

 

[jcsaws]

Air filters??????????? over here in oz what i see isn't so good .
bring up the subject hundreds of times, not i lot gets done,we only use about 2% of world market.
On the 361 we use yellow felt type which are ok.
But i may post some 066 filters soon .
there is a uni filter sock that is working ,looks ugly.
ms441 is doing ok.
l show you dust! cheers JC

 

[SawTroll]

Well that just shot your biased opinion all to hell........

Nope, it is how it really is!


..and you are not the right person to talk about biased opinions.....:monkey:

 

[Lakeside53]

I'm not trying to 5hit stier here, but what damage does sawdust do if it gets in the combustion chamber? Surely its soft combustable stuff and won't damage the bore and bearings. Unlike dust that is abrasive and a machine killer, I've never been TOO worried about a little soft sawdust getting through... In moderation that is.

Maybe it's an indicator of other stuff getting through, but I haven't seen it

Look at the old saws.. with the wire mesh filters... the only way thay got more efficent at stopping the lumps was to block up!

Want to suck around a filter? just block it well with fine dust 20T's suck in that regard.

 

[spacemule]

the only dust i have seen go through an AF is on the larger Poulan Pro's with the nylon "half pipe" AF, or the mid - large displacement stihls that i dont want to mention because it will open a large can of worms that i cant be bothered containing :monkey:

sorry lake


STK

It's pretty sad when someone can't post their experience for fear of the backlash from a particular group.

 

[Lakeside53]

fear and flight/fight... is a good thing... :greenchainsaw: