MS441 R C-M M-Tronic Review and Mods

[WoodChuck'r]

Hey come buy a 460 Arctic and stop wasting your money on losing bets :hmm3grin2orange:

Put a 460 Arctic, a 441 CM, and a 440 off to the side. I'll give ya $400 a month til all 3 are paid off, then I'll come pick'em up. I want a 20" bar on each saw, 050 / 3/8, full chizzy, lol.


And concerning the bet, I think the taker is gonna pay me, provided someone wants to take the bet. Like I said, if I'm wrong I'm wrong - I'll eat my own dumbass words and pay up.

 

[young]

How about the reverse? If someone had and M-tronic or AT saw that was messed up, damaged, etc. Could they convert it to a conventional saw by swapping out just the coil and carb, or would anything else need to be changed or removed on these saws?

Thanks.

Philbert

at least you still need the flywheel and maybe the master switch and wiring harness.

remove wise, the tigger unit would have to go alone with the carb and coil/control unit.

it be cheaper to repair then convert it over.

 

[FATGUY]

$5 says the 576 takes it.

Another $5 on the 372xt. That saw needs to be part of this if it isn't already.



I'm an honest man and I'll pay if anyone wants to rumble.

Put a 460 Arctic, a 441 CM, and a 440 off to the side. I'll give ya $400 a month til all 3 are paid off, then I'll come pick'em up. I want a 20" bar on each saw, 050 / 3/8, full chizzy, lol.


And concerning the bet, I think the taker is gonna pay me, provided someone wants to take the bet. Like I said, if I'm wrong I'm wrong - I'll eat my own dumbass words and pay up.

tell you what, if the 441's faster than the autotune, you buy a raffle ticket in my name for the buildoff saw. If the 576 is faster, I'll buy one in your name.

 

[BloodOnTheIce]

Put a 460 Arctic, a 441 CM, and a 440 off to the side. I'll give ya $400 a month til all 3 are paid off, then I'll come pick'em up. I want a 20" bar on each saw, 050 / 3/8, full chizzy, lol.


And concerning the bet, I think the taker is gonna pay me, provided someone wants to take the bet. Like I said, if I'm wrong I'm wrong - I'll eat my own dumbass words and pay up.

Stihl ES Bars or Windsor Speed Tip Bars? I'll put the saws by the lay-away counter.

 

[mdavlee]

I think the 576 will give the 441 a good run. I hope it makes it by mid week so we can have videos to argue over next weekend.:msp_wink:

opcorn:

 

[blsnelling]

Another $5 on the 372xt. That saw needs to be part of this if it isn't already.

Are you sending one down?

 

[j.williams]

would like to see a pic of the mm.

 

[inthewoodsagain]

Inthewoodsagain

When we going to see pics of you muffler mod mate ie how much you filed out!? Best and most handtest saw ever. I even use it on a 16" duromatic. We have had 4 of these since september 2010. Will run for ages but have bad techs at dealers so have bought diag kit and run to the "book" Your vids and youtube are vital and are the best. Thankyou so much for you efforts. Cheers Jon U

have opened up original OEM exhaust outlet opening by a total of 85% of original engine cylinder exhaust port and after 5X continous cuts in same dia wood, a 30sec idle then stopthen restart and repeat the saw will retune and away you go. Incredible. Used rollermatic E and RSC 3/8 standard chain and 7rim sprocket- ie standard I have noticed it do have a sutle issue with a 16"bar ie hunts. Stihl uk catalog does not print 16" bar for ms441cm but does fo ms441 carb!

 

[inthewoodsagain]

inthewoodsagain

Matt I understand about the heat issue and fire prevention. What I was really getting at is the exhaust cans on every stock saw I've ran to date, under load will get the muffler can red in spots. You can see this when it's getting pretty dark out. I guess it's possible to get the outside temps down, but that would likely mean extra size and weight. Do you know what part of the saw they're taking the reading from?

Hi m8, just a side coment but all my saws ie 660,x2 460, x211 have a foil reflector under the chain brake handle- the 441cm's don't so why and we have not noticed a larger amount of heat and we cross-cut hardwood allday with ours ie 60litres of juice + Ultra oil and stihl bioplus!!!!!!!

 

[WoodChuck'r]

Stihl ES Bars or Windsor Speed Tip Bars? I'll put the saws by the lay-away counter.

Stihl.

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

441rcm/25" now showing in stock, 689.95 is dealer net.

 

[WoodChuck'r]

Are you sending one down?

Nope, don't have one. I would if I had one.....

Someone should send one out for the cause though, lol....

 

[mdavlee]

Chucker why don't you call spike and get a 372 xt on the way?oke:

I would like to see that comparison also.

 

[WoodChuck'r]

Chucker why don't you call spike and get a 372 xt on the way?oke:

I would like to see that comparison also.

Heh if I had $800 it'd prolly be happening.....

 

[WoodChuck'r]

tell you what, if the 441's faster than the autotune, you buy a raffle ticket in my name for the buildoff saw. If the 576 is faster, I'll buy one in your name.

10-4 big guy. It's a deal.

 

[inthewoodsagain]

inthewoodsagain

441rcm/25" now showing in stock, 689.95 is dealer net.

cheapest we get them for is £810 in 20% VAT for 4 head units with a 20" bar RSC chain and no wrap oor big bumper spikes/ Get them seperatly for £100+20% vat!

 

[inthewoodsagain]

inthewoodsagain

When we going to see pics of you muffler mod mate ie how much you filed out!? Best and most handtest saw ever. I even use it on a 16" duromatic. We have had 4 of these since september 2010. Will run for ages but have bad techs at dealers so have bought diag kit and run to the "book" Your vids and youtube are vital and are the best. Thankyou so much for you efforts. Cheers Jon UK

Brad, come on m8, show us your zorzt-gap! or did you do what I did and filed 85% and let engine tune its self? Great saw isn't. Just bought anther 2 more today so now have 6 in the fleet! and traded both 460's and an old stock 660.Was offered a h!576at but was it was awaiting a new starter recoil!!!!!. Enough said! Am saving around 50 litres of juice a week but alo spending 50% more on mix oil but am happy as saws are great to use.Thanks again for your input. Jon

 

[blsnelling]

I don't have the saw here. I left it with Andre to compare to the 576AT next week.

 

[MacLaren]

I don't have the saw here. I left it with Andre to compare to the 576AT next week.

Yup, Mike told me she was going to Andy. You guys break her in real good. LOL, I bet Mike will never get a chance to run that saw after it shows ya what it can do......

 

[mdavlee]

You might be right. If the autotune version is stronger than the regular version like they say it should be pretty strong. I guess we will see when it gets there.