Nik's Poulan Thread

[Poulan Dude]

Just Finished! Dayton 2Z463B

Just finished this old Dayton 2Z463B! Replaced cylinder with a cylinder I had reclaimed out of a broken saw That looks like new! Changed crank back over to point style ignition with flywheel! These old saws have always had electronic ignition problems. New crank seals, all gaskets, shaved head to .0010 off of piston, ported the exhaust port and muffler, ported inside the intake, tuned the reed valves, rebuilt the tillotson carb with all gaskets and welch plugs adjusted float to correct height, installed new points and plug, new lines and hoses, mixed 16/1 husky oil, installed 28" (92DL)Oregon Power Match Bar with 72 LGX Full Chipper Chain. This saw wil have no problems with this bar at all. I have built a Poulan 245SA with a 80 link chain before and this saw has more power than that one. Pulled slowly with decompression valve open to watch fuel fill in the tube then pulled one time and it fired right off!!! Made final adjustments on carb as saw warmed up. This saw feels really good! I can hardly wait to sink it in some big hickory tomorrow to make the high speed adjustments!!! :chainsawguy::I was thinking about painting it but You can't find decals no where for an old Dayotn. What do you guys think about Paint?:biggrinbounce2:

 

[OhioGregg]

Not sure if it will....maybe I will go out and check.

Funny you say that, I was out in the shop briefly today. Saw the 5200 sitting there. Decided to start it up and let it run awhile. I let it sit there an idle for several 3-4 minutes. Got my big Poulan fix. Havn't done any cutting for a while now. Was good medicine to hear it run again. I should do like Mark did, and video the thing just sitting there idling...LOL

Gregg,

 

[Modifiedmark]

Just finished this old Dayton 2Z463B! Replaced cylinder with a cylinder I had reclaimed out of a broken saw That looks like new! Changed crank back over to point style ignition with flywheel! These old saws have always had electronic ignition problems. New crank seals, all gaskets, shaved head to .0010 off of piston, ported the exhaust port and muffler, ported inside the intake, tuned the reed valves, rebuilt the tillotson carb with all gaskets and welch plugs adjusted float to correct height, installed new points and plug, new lines and hoses, mixed 16/1 husky oil, installed 28" (92DL)Oregon Power Match Bar with 72 LGX Full Chipper Chain. This saw wil have no problems with this bar at all. I have built a Poulan 245SA with a 80 link chain before and this saw has more power than that one. Pulled slowly with decompression valve open to watch fuel fill in the tube then pulled one time and it fired right off!!! Made final adjustments on carb as saw warmed up. This saw feels really good! I can hardly wait to sink it in some big hickory tomorrow to make the high speed adjustments!!! :chainsawguy::I was thinking about painting it but You can't find decals no where for an old Dayotn. What do you guys think about Paint?:biggrinbounce2:

Sounds good, did you disable the governor on the carb? I myself don't understand your saying those saws had trouble with the electronic ign, as I have not seen that first hand myself. They have all been pretty much trouble free. Not like the Homelites, McCullochs and Husqvarna electronic igns from that era anyway.

Why on earth would you still be running a 16-1 fuel mix on that saw today, way too much oil with the type we have today. I just switched all my saws to 50-1 last weekend and had been running the older stuff at 40-1 anyway.

I have ran 245's with a 28" bar before and they have no trouble with them at all.

As far as paint, you could paint it lime green as you can get Poulan 245SA decals for it.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Funny you say that, I was out in the shop briefly today. Saw the 5200 sitting there. Decided to start it up and let it run awhile. I let it sit there an idle for several 3-4 minutes. Got my big Poulan fix. Havn't done any cutting for a while now. Was good medicine to hear it run again. I should do like Mark did, and video the thing just sitting there idling...LOL

Gregg,

Here Greg maybe you would like see the project shelf.

 

[joe25DA]

Nice Dayton Dude!
So my S25CVA was giving me problems last time I had it out. wouldn't idle and had to rev it hard to keep it going. I adjusted the carb, but no luck. I replaced the fuel line and filter on this saw over the summer but I left the carb alone since it ran good once I had the new line on it. I should have known better. So tonight I took it in and tore the carb down. Its a newer model so it has a walboro carb. Im surprised it even ran. Hard to tell from pics but the carb was loaded with crap ant the carb screen was blocked completely. Goes to show you that a tight engine and good compression will pull it thru!
Tommorow we are cutting some maple and oak and I just touched up the chain on my 3.7. The 4000 is getting a new one. The 3.7 is looking to get a shot at my homelite 360 Im finishing too. We talked about this before. Im thinkin the 3.7 will hand the 360 its a$$.
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[OhioGregg]

Just finished this old Dayton 2Z463B! Replaced cylinder with a cylinder I had reclaimed out of a broken saw That looks like new! Changed crank back over to point style ignition with flywheel! These old saws have always had electronic ignition problems. New crank seals, all gaskets, shaved head to .0010 off of piston, ported the exhaust port and muffler, ported inside the intake, tuned the reed valves, rebuilt the tillotson carb with all gaskets and welch plugs adjusted float to correct height, installed new points and plug, new lines and hoses, mixed 16/1 husky oil, installed 28" (92DL)Oregon Power Match Bar with 72 LGX Full Chipper Chain. This saw wil have no problems with this bar at all. I have built a Poulan 245SA with a 80 link chain before and this saw has more power than that one. Pulled slowly with decompression valve open to watch fuel fill in the tube then pulled one time and it fired right off!!! Made final adjustments on carb as saw warmed up. This saw feels really good! I can hardly wait to sink it in some big hickory tomorrow to make the high speed adjustments!!! :chainsawguy::I was thinking about painting it but You can't find decals no where for an old Dayotn. What do you guys think about Paint?:biggrinbounce2:

Saw looks Great! Sounds like you did a real job on it. Don't believe I have ever heard of anyone doing that much to a 245. When ya take it out to cut that hickory, don't forget to take a camera! preferably a video camera!

Gregg,

 

[Modifiedmark]

Joe that 3700 will make that 360 look like its in reverse. I had a 360 and the main word there is "had"

 

[Poulan Dude]

Sounds good, did you disable the governor on the carb? I myself don't understand your saying those saws had trouble with the electronic ign, as I have not seen that first hand myself. They have all been pretty much trouble free. Not like the Homelites, McCullochs and Husqvarna electronic igns from that era anyway.

Why on earth would you still be running a 16-1 fuel mix on that saw today, way too much oil with the type we have today. I just switched all my saws to 50-1 last weekend and had been running the older stuff at 40-1 anyway.

I have ran 245's with a 28" bar before and they have no trouble with them at all.

As far as paint, you could paint it lime green as you can get Poulan 245SA decals for it.

I did not open the governor not really sure how?

I know the flywheels are different for points and electronic ignition but all of my 245's have had problems with electronic ignition?

Fuel mix on this new engine was the only reason for the mix.

Yeah I've seen decals on the web for a 245.

What about the governor...?

 

[OhioGregg]

Here Greg maybe you would like see the project shelf.

Hey Mark, I'm Green with envy. The examples on your project shelf, look better than my one and only...LOL

Gregg,

 

[Poulan Dude]

Saw looks Great! Sounds like you did a real job on it. Don't believe I have ever heard of anyone doing that much to a 245. When ya take it out to cut that hickory, don't forget to take a camera! preferably a video camera!

Gregg,

Yep, I plan on it! Can't wait till tomorrow!

 

[Modifiedmark]

Hey Mark, I'm Green with envy. The examples on your project shelf, look better than my one and only...LOL

Gregg,

Not up close they don't there rougher then a cobb.

The one closest is the one from Canada that just arrived today. Only gave it a quick glance but the P/C look to be very good so thats a good thing.

I told you I was going to restore one, well I lied, looks like I'm doing two of them. The green top one may just be a project to just run, no cosmetics.

 

[Modifiedmark]

I did not open the governor not really sure how?

I know the flywheels are different for points and electronic ignition but all of my 245's have had problems with electronic ignition?

Fuel mix on this new engine was the only reason for the mix.

Yeah I've seen decals on the web for a 245.

What about the governor...?

Well if you didnt disable the governor then you could not have made the final carb adjustments on it.

That governor is made to flood the engine at no load high speed to keep it from over reving. You have to make the final H adjustment in the wood. Just so you know though if everything is right on that saw, your H screw will be very close to the starting point of 1 1/4 turns open.


Do a search here on HS governors.

 

[OhioGregg]

Not up close they don't there rougher then a cobb.

The one closest is the one from Canada that just arrived today. Only gave it a quick glance but the P/C look to be very good so thats a good thing.

I told you I was going to restore one, well I lied, looks like I'm doing two of them. The green top one may just be a project to just run, no cosmetics.

I take it the ones from Canada must not have been painted orange, or had chain brakes, like other later models. Of course, I suppose it could have been from the USA originally. Maybe that quit making the 5200 before they got all uptight about chain brakes. LOL

Gregg,

 

[Modifiedmark]

I take it the ones from Canada must not have been painted orange, or had chain brakes, like other later models. Of course, I suppose it could have been from the USA originally. Maybe that quit making the 5200 before they got all uptight about chain brakes. LOL

Gregg,

No this is not a Canadian 5200, I don't think they were ever made there just the later models maybe. I'm still trying to learn more about the Canadian connection.

I did find out that the Canadian built Poulans were built very close to the original Pioneer factory and seems that they were made after the Elux buyout...

 

[Poulan Dude]

Well if you didnt disable the governor then you could not have made the final carb adjustments on it.

That governor is made to flood the engine at no load high speed to keep it from over reving. You have to make the final H adjustment in the wood. Just so you know though if everything is right on that saw, your H screw will be very close to the starting point of 1 1/4 turns open.


Do a search here on HS governors.

Thanks for the expert advice! I will try this tomorrow!

I did the HS pre adjust at 1 1/4 turns yesterday. LS at 1 turn.

Will disabling the governor harm the saw?

I think I might wait until I see how it cuts tomorrow.opcorn:

 

[redunshee]

Just finished this old Dayton 2Z463B! Replaced cylinder with a cylinder I had reclaimed out of a broken saw That looks like new! Changed crank back over to point style ignition with flywheel! These old saws have always had electronic ignition problems. New crank seals, all gaskets, shaved head to .0010 off of piston, ported the exhaust port and muffler, ported inside the intake, tuned the reed valves, rebuilt the tillotson carb with all gaskets and welch plugs adjusted float to correct height, installed new points and plug, new lines and hoses, mixed 16/1 husky oil, installed 28" (92DL)Oregon Power Match Bar with 72 LGX Full Chipper Chain. This saw wil have no problems with this bar at all. I have built a Poulan 245SA with a 80 link chain before and this saw has more power than that one. Pulled slowly with decompression valve open to watch fuel fill in the tube then pulled one time and it fired right off!!! Made final adjustments on carb as saw warmed up. This saw feels really good! I can hardly wait to sink it in some big hickory tomorrow to make the high speed adjustments!!! :chainsawguy::I was thinking about painting it but You can't find decals no where for an old Dayotn. What do you guys think about Paint?:biggrinbounce2:

Where did you locate crank seals? I ordered some aftermarket seals but I don't believe they will fit. ID is too small at least on the clutch side.
Bob

 

[Poulan Dude]

Where did you locate crank seals? I ordered some aftermarket seals but I don't believe they will fit. ID is too small at least on the clutch side.
Bob

Believe it or not We have an old dealer in town that has kept every left over seal since the beginning of time!!! and he will let me look in it when I need something. Lucky huh:drool:

 

[redunshee]

Believe it or not We have an old dealer in town that has kept every left over seal since the beginning of time!!! and he will let me look in it when I need something. Lucky huh:drool:

I guess so ! I've been looking to no avail for seals for my 245A.

 

[dh1984]

hey fellers what kind of carb supposed to be on a poulan 3800?

the one it has on it now is a zuma W3-03P

 

[FATGUY]

Poulan 361 bearing carrier O-ring

need a little help here boys, I need to know the dimensions of the O-ring that seals the bearing carrier on the Poulan 361. The ipl shows it as PN 19004. I'm sure it's NLA but if I knew what size it was I could just go down to Grainger and pick on up.