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I agree. Not aware of any replacement rims.
I have to look but I think my Allis Chalmers 75 might have had a rim drive on it. I could be wrong though.
I have seen them before but it was along time ago. I think those were originally for saws with 1/4" pitch chains and untill Kevin posted that ebay auction I didnt think they ever make 3/8's lp rims for them.
I'm not sure I would want a 7 tooth sprocket on a 25 series saw anyway. They cut to good as is.
I have seen them before but it was along time ago. I think those were originally for saws with 1/4" pitch chains and untill Kevin posted that ebay auction I didnt think they ever make 3/8's lp rims for them.
I'm not sure I would want a 7 tooth sprocket on a 25 series saw anyway. They cut to good as is.
I got a cylinder for the S25CVA. I still need a piston/rings and the AV mounts I mentioned. PM me if you can help me out.
blackoak
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Can anyone tell me if a 3400 and a 4000 use the same ignition coil?
redunshee
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paulyb21
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oiler update Craftsman3.7 (poulan3800) Maybe its the wrong bar?
Thanks Mark. yes I went the begging route when I got the 3400, and have the Poulan Counter Vibe 3400 Chain Saw Service Manual Should be the same info for the 3700/3800?
Pulled it apart and cleaned things out. Looked like pretty thick congealed oil. Reassembled. (then remembered you guys like pictures, oh well) Every thing looked good.
Have a diaphragm and quad ring on order and new oil delivery line (p/n 530024345, 530019029, and 530021038 as well through Sears) just for spares anyways
Put it back together and the manual pump is pumping oil. Good start! Oil pumps on automatic but very little is actually getting to the bar. Maybe I didn't need to open up the oiler, maybe it was working all along but the bar is the problem? again oh well.
The bar is NOT CLOGGED. Only one oil hole on the bar seems to have good clear access through the chain Guide Bar inner Plate to where the oil is being pumped out.
Also there is a bit of slop on the barstud slot. Maybe this is not the best bar?, maybe not even the correct one? Can't find this old Windsor 058 bar on the web.
Anyone, Does it look right for oil holes and mount??? (My 3400 is back in Ottawa 100km away for comparison)
Chain is almost worn out,
drum clutch gear is pretty grooved up. Maybe I should just replace all 3 with new? The bar actually measures 19" from body to tip, so would that be a 20" or an 18"?
What should I be buying for p/n's
I really like the Oregon 72DP, for the dirty wood around here...should replace this one with it. This one is 058 gauge on the bar and chain.
Do I need this or is 050 good enough?
Thanks Paul B
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Thanks Mark. yes I went the begging route when I got the 3400, and have the Poulan Counter Vibe 3400 Chain Saw Service Manual Should be the same info for the 3700/3800?
Pulled it apart and cleaned things out. Looked like pretty thick congealed oil. Reassembled. (then remembered you guys like pictures, oh well) Every thing looked good.
Have a diaphragm and quad ring on order and new oil delivery line (p/n 530024345, 530019029, and 530021038 as well through Sears) just for spares anyways
Put it back together and the manual pump is pumping oil. Good start! Oil pumps on automatic but very little is actually getting to the bar. Maybe I didn't need to open up the oiler, maybe it was working all along but the bar is the problem? again oh well.
The bar is NOT CLOGGED. Only one oil hole on the bar seems to have good clear access through the chain Guide Bar inner Plate to where the oil is being pumped out.
Also there is a bit of slop on the barstud slot. Maybe this is not the best bar?, maybe not even the correct one? Can't find this old Windsor 058 bar on the web.
Anyone, Does it look right for oil holes and mount??? (My 3400 is back in Ottawa 100km away for comparison)
Chain is almost worn out,
drum clutch gear is pretty grooved up. Maybe I should just replace all 3 with new? The bar actually measures 19" from body to tip, so would that be a 20" or an 18"?
What should I be buying for p/n's
I really like the Oregon 72DP, for the dirty wood around here...should replace this one with it. This one is 058 gauge on the bar and chain.
Do I need this or is 050 good enough?
Thanks Paul B
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redunshee
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Thanks Mark. yes I went the begging route when I got the 3400, and have the Poulan Counter Vibe 3400 Chain Saw Service Manual Should be the same info for the 3700/3800?
Pulled it apart and cleaned things out. Looked like pretty thick congealed oil. Reassembled. (then remembered you guys like pictures, oh well) Every thing looked good.
Have a diaphragm and quad ring on order and new oil delivery line (p/n 530024345, 530019029, and 530021038 as well through Sears) just for spares anyways
Put it back together and the manual pump is pumping oil. Good start! Oil pumps on automatic but very little is actually getting to the bar. Maybe I didn't need to open up the oiler, maybe it was working all along but the bar is the problem? again oh well.
The bar is NOT CLOGGED. Only one oil hole on the bar seems to have good clear access through the chain Guide Bar inner Plate to where the oil is being pumped out.
Also there is a bit of slop on the barstud slot. Maybe this is not the best bar?, maybe not even the correct one? Can't find this old Windsor 058 bar on the web.
Anyone, Does it look right for oil holes and mount??? (My 3400 is back in Ottawa 100km away for comparison)
Chain is almost worn out,
drum clutch gear is pretty grooved up. Maybe I should just replace all 3 with new? The bar actually measures 19" from body to tip, so would that be a 20" or an 18"?
What should I be buying for p/n's
I really like the Oregon 72DP, for the dirty wood around here...should replace this one with it. This one is 058 gauge on the bar and chain.
Do I need this or is 050 good enough?
Thanks Paul B
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Well not sure about the oil holes on that bar. Have never seen a bar like that. If you plan to replace the sprocket I'd stay with the 3/8 pitch. Insofar as the bar and chain I'd get a .50 gauge, 3/8 pitch in either 16 or 18 in. The 3400 will pull a 20 but I prefer a smaller bar.
Bob
8433jeff
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Run that bar til its worn out that chain, won't be that long in dirty wood. If it were my chain, the depth gauges (rakers) would get a severe filing. That bar may be one that fits, but doesn't work too well, and those are plentiful. Your new one should be a D176 mount, and .058 isn't overkill, but if everything else you have is .050, thats how I'd set her up.
Paul, that bar is not the right one. Looks like a old Partner mount with a 9mm slot.
What you want is a Oregon D176 mount bar. That is the standard Poulan/Echo style bar mount with a 5/16" slot.
A standard .050 gage bar is fine, no need for .058.
The good thing is if your manual oiler is working, that means the pump checkvalves are probably fine.
What you want is a Oregon D176 mount bar. That is the standard Poulan/Echo style bar mount with a 5/16" slot.
A standard .050 gage bar is fine, no need for .058.
The good thing is if your manual oiler is working, that means the pump checkvalves are probably fine.
Sorry Jeff, we were typing at the same time!
paulyb21
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Thanks for the feed back
Thanks for the feed back guys Bob, Jeff, Mark.
I will run that til she is done then. May enlarge the oil hole that mostly lines up, to get better oil flow.
Yes was looking at Baileys and Acres site to try to find a mount match, but thought you guys would have some good input. I Wasn't wrong. It just didn't look right, too many holes...
Haven't touched the rackers or the teeth yet, that is how it came. But will do some filing on it to get it cutting properly.
Will keep an eye out for any specials locally for replacements, maybe good used...
Yes have a 16" .050" setup on the 3400 so will go for the same on this 3800. Keep it simple for swapping.
Again, thanks,
Paul
Thanks for the feed back guys Bob, Jeff, Mark.
I will run that til she is done then. May enlarge the oil hole that mostly lines up, to get better oil flow.
Yes was looking at Baileys and Acres site to try to find a mount match, but thought you guys would have some good input. I Wasn't wrong. It just didn't look right, too many holes...
Haven't touched the rackers or the teeth yet, that is how it came. But will do some filing on it to get it cutting properly.
Will keep an eye out for any specials locally for replacements, maybe good used...
Yes have a 16" .050" setup on the 3400 so will go for the same on this 3800. Keep it simple for swapping.
Again, thanks,
Paul
paulyb21, Hard to tell, but that top picture looks like the inner bar plate is on backwards. The inner plate should go on with the bent wings toward the saw. With the oil slot in it. The outer plate doesn't have a slot, and the wings point away from the saw. Just an observation. Pics can be deceiving though..lol
Gregg,
Gregg,
Here is a pic of what I was trying to say..
Gregg,
Gregg,
paulyb21
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Gregg,
It wouldn't be the first time I've installed something wrong!. I will go check and be back.
Ahh that must be the "S" clip I have read about in some of the posts to resize the bar/slot size to fit a smaller stud.
Paul
It wouldn't be the first time I've installed something wrong!. I will go check and be back.
Ahh that must be the "S" clip I have read about in some of the posts to resize the bar/slot size to fit a smaller stud.
Paul
LOL, Its easy to do sometimes.
Yes, That be the s-clip..lol They are used on bars made by Windsor. I have never seen one for sale, unfortunately. I have several, but they came on a couple of the saws I bought over time.
Heres a pic of another one. The outer plate goes on the opposite of the inner one.
Here is one with a Widsor bar.
Gregg,
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paulyb21
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Gregg this is how I have it when testing. Is this correct?
The other photo did have the plate on wrong.
Good eyes
Thanks
Paul
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The other photo did have the plate on wrong.
Thanks
Paul
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paulyb21
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Those would be just the ticket for this bar. I will check at the localish poulan dealer if he has one kicking about.
Got a chain brake for this from him and am trying to change the parts from the old clutch cover to mine. Will post some pics in a few minutes.
Paul
Got a chain brake for this from him and am trying to change the parts from the old clutch cover to mine. Will post some pics in a few minutes.
Paul
paulyb21
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Chain brake transplant for Craftsman 3.7 (poulan 3700/3800) advice needed
Hi Guys
I am looking to transfer the good brake parts from the cracked yellow Skilsaw clutch cover to my Grey good clutch cover. I tried operating it, it does work.
I am not sure if anyone has done this before. Could use some advice before I try anything....or damage it.
I have it now un-bolted but ....Problem with removing the brake band.
Is this just a press fit pin into the cover?. In the Highlighted circle.
Can I drift it out or press it out? Would heating it up a bit, like with crank bearings, help?
The Grey cover looks to have a smooth through hole, nothing threaded.
Thought I would run it by here first. These parts are kind of rare even up here in the north.
If anyone has some experience with these or just wants to add some helpful insight. I would appreciate it.
Thanks
Paul B
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Hi Guys
I am looking to transfer the good brake parts from the cracked yellow Skilsaw clutch cover to my Grey good clutch cover. I tried operating it, it does work.
I am not sure if anyone has done this before. Could use some advice before I try anything....or damage it.
I have it now un-bolted but ....Problem with removing the brake band.
Is this just a press fit pin into the cover?. In the Highlighted circle.
Can I drift it out or press it out? Would heating it up a bit, like with crank bearings, help?
The Grey cover looks to have a smooth through hole, nothing threaded.
Thought I would run it by here first. These parts are kind of rare even up here in the north.
If anyone has some experience with these or just wants to add some helpful insight. I would appreciate it.
Thanks
Paul B
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