Nik's Poulan Thread

[zogger]

Authoritative cross reference?

OK, I am officially juiced now. Just started going through that wad of saws I got the other day and already got a near runner out of two poulans by swapping parts. These are my first poulans ever and they look dang near similar to my huskys.

I got a pp295 (I need another small to midrange rear handle runner) that needed a starter cover and pawl, took the one off the 2900, (that one has a busted non existent handle so it is official parts saw), and it fit great. Dumped out the old crud mix, pulled the plug, put a smidgen of a capfull of fresh mix in there, yanked 'er, vroom! One of the pawls is bent on the flywheel for that 295 (proly why it tore up the starter in the first place), so will the flywheel off the 2900 fit? Maybe, then I need to research how to get them things off...

See, now I have these questions I would rather know the answer to before I start stripping them down. A first for me mixing and matching with saws.

The 295 needs full complete cleaning, but looks promising, that is for sure the one I will be focusing on now. And certainly easier to disassemble than this little mac I bought, threw that right in a junk box. I'll get to the homies later, one is real neat, the ez automatic, but not sure if I want to start on those, think I'll stick to the poulans as I have husky brain from looking at parts before, and they look the closest to good runners to me.

All what I can see so far looks just like my huskys as well, so maybe I can scrounge more, for instance I need an oiler assembly or at least a better oiler plunger dealie with better teeth for my husky 137, and a guide plate.... ya I know that stuff is cheap, but if I can mix and match for free now....I am at poverty level (officially) and need to maximize my "investment" here with these junk saws . (they all came from a "don't wanna fix em, customer gagging at estimated repair bill" pile at a dealers. They really only like working on high end stuff there...don't bother me, I'll run low end if it works..). Me, working for free, it don't matter, I got WAY more time than money...

So, before I start making more of a mess with parts all over, I would like to find *the* authoritative parts cross reference guide, if such a thing exists. The 2000 tophandle also looks to be close, first inspection shows just the fuel line off inside the tank, and the 1800 has a scored piston, so can I use those 1800 parts? Those sort of questions..

So I would like to find the authoritative Poulan to poulan to husky to whatever guide, if such a thing exists. Thanks in advance guys!

Oh ya, the remington electric I got with the pile...nuthin wrong with it! I know what proly happened, it has a straight basic gravity fed oiling system. I bet it leaked all over heck when joe homeowner put it away and the owner wanted it "fixed". There ain't no fixing, ya gots to drain any unused oil back out when done using it. Bah....and the rakers on the chain are almost exactly the same height as the cutters, which are sharp but the things just throws dust. Fix that with a flat file and it will be spiffy for my "branches in the yard and whoops this piece of wood is a scosh too big for the stove" saw.

Ya, this is kinda fun...

 

[rms61moparman]

I recently purchased Poulan 3700 (chrome cylinder, thin rings) on eBay. Came with a 24 inch bar. Reason for purchase was I wanted a saw for failing larger diameter trees (have saws with 18 inch and 20 inch bars).

After reading many posts on how to modify/enhance our performance I did a muffler modification and took .020" off of the cylinder base with no base gasket. Squish measures.025"

Saw went from 125 PSI to 185 PSI.

Saw runs really well, but I still would like to squeeze more power out of it if I can.

The main question I have is there anything to be gained by modifying the ports?

If so I would very much like to hear from anyone who has done poor modifications on the 3700, i.e. what you did and results.

One thought that I have is that in removing the base gasket and taking .020" off of the base (squish is gone from .055" to .025"), would doing some work on the ports be beneficial to timing (intake/exhaust)?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Really a great forum.:msp_thumbup:

Those saws respond real well to widening the exhaust to 70% of piston diameter, measured on the curve, or as close as you dare while not grinding through the bolt holes.
You could raise your ex. port roof the .025-.030 that you lowered it with the cylinder shave, but I'm not sure what it would gain.
I don't know beans about degree wheels and porting numbers, Brad would be the one to help you there.
Work on the intake port doesn't help much because the stock port will flow as much as the manifold will allow. If you are in there, I like to open the impulse ducts slightly with a small drill bit and "port match" the duct in the manifold with the one in the cylinder.
I can't swear that it makes them start with fewer pulls but it seems to for me.


Mike

 

[67 Mustang]

Sounds like a good idea. I guess May 15 & 16th. as the way I see it right now. Had picked the weekend before, but later realized that was mothers day weekend. Lord knows we don't want conflict with the mothers, wives, significant others etc.:msp_ohmy: I think you said that weekend was the Heritage Festival also. So unless something drastically has to change, will figure on 15th & 16th.

Gregg,

Sounds good, Gregg. I'll try to be there and may bring Dean along if he promises not to upstage any of us with his Poulan collection.

 

[Modifiedmark]

I would certainly think it would love to come along to a GTG. Along with about a dozen other classic old Poulans! :msp_thumbsup:
I'm betting you can get quite a few of them in a Super Duty with an 8' bed.:msp_drool:


Gregg,

Yes the 8' bed will hold a few classic Poulans for sure. I'm not sure how many with the 5th wheel hitch in it though.

Thought I might drag the camper over this time so I don't have to leave so early.

Of course if I drink enough I might get to singing to Mikes playing then you will wish for sure I would have left early.:rockn:

 

[Modifiedmark]

The 12 or 13 you got from me is not enough?:hmm3grin2orange:

John you need to read that again, I said carb kits not carbs!!

Yes now with a stash of carbs on hand, more kits then ever. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Modifiedmark]

Gregg,
I might just hobo a ride up there with 67 mustang if y'all don't care. If he'll let me I might bring an old Poolan or two. Is this a "Poulan specific" GTG? The dates are the next weekend after our local Heritage Fest and I might not have any that'll run after that except maybe some Poulans!
Igpoe

Dean, I sure hope you can make it! That would be great.

Check er out, got it on Monday, $35

You done well! Cool good running old saws.

 

[rms61moparman]

Yes Gregg!!!

Go ahead and reserve a spot for me, Sheila and our GTGmobile now!
If I am still breathing, I aim to be there!


Mike

 

[Modifiedmark]

OK, I am officially juiced now. Just started going through that wad of saws I got the other day and already got a near runner out of two poulans by swapping parts. These are my first poulans ever and they look dang near similar to my huskys.

I got a pp295 (I need another small to midrange rear handle runner) that needed a starter cover and pawl, took the one off the 2900, (that one has a busted non existent handle so it is official parts saw), and it fit great. Dumped out the old crud mix, pulled the plug, put a smidgen of a capfull of fresh mix in there, yanked 'er, vroom! One of the pawls is bent on the flywheel for that 295 (proly why it tore up the starter in the first place), so will the flywheel off the 2900 fit? Maybe, then I need to research how to get them things off...

See, now I have these questions I would rather know the answer to before I start stripping them down. A first for me mixing and matching with saws.

The 295 needs full complete cleaning, but looks promising, that is for sure the one I will be focusing on now. And certainly easier to disassemble than this little mac I bought, threw that right in a junk box. I'll get to the homies later, one is real neat, the ez automatic, but not sure if I want to start on those, think I'll stick to the poulans as I have husky brain from looking at parts before, and they look the closest to good runners to me.

All what I can see so far looks just like my huskys as well, so maybe I can scrounge more, for instance I need an oiler assembly or at least a better oiler plunger dealie with better teeth for my husky 137, and a guide plate.... ya I know that stuff is cheap, but if I can mix and match for free now....I am at poverty level (officially) and need to maximize my "investment" here with these junk saws . (they all came from a "don't wanna fix em, customer gagging at estimated repair bill" pile at a dealers. They really only like working on high end stuff there...don't bother me, I'll run low end if it works..). Me, working for free, it don't matter, I got WAY more time than money...

So, before I start making more of a mess with parts all over, I would like to find *the* authoritative parts cross reference guide, if such a thing exists. The 2000 tophandle also looks to be close, first inspection shows just the fuel line off inside the tank, and the 1800 has a scored piston, so can I use those 1800 parts? Those sort of questions..

So I would like to find the authoritative Poulan to poulan to husky to whatever guide, if such a thing exists. Thanks in advance guys!

Oh ya, the remington electric I got with the pile...nuthin wrong with it! I know what proly happened, it has a straight basic gravity fed oiling system. I bet it leaked all over heck when joe homeowner put it away and the owner wanted it "fixed". There ain't no fixing, ya gots to drain any unused oil back out when done using it. Bah....and the rakers on the chain are almost exactly the same height as the cutters, which are sharp but the things just throws dust. Fix that with a flat file and it will be spiffy for my "branches in the yard and whoops this piece of wood is a scosh too big for the stove" saw.

Ya, this is kinda fun...

I'm no expert on those 295's but what I do know, is I like em just fine for what they are.

As far as I know most all the parts between it and the 2900 are the same, just different colored.

The 1800 and 2000 are mostly the same as well. The 2000 has a little bigger engine in it.

 

[stubnail67]

hmmmmmm

Yes the 8' bed will hold a few classic Poulans for sure. I'm not sure how many with the 5th wheel hitch in it though.

Thought I might drag the camper over this time so I don't have to leave so early.

Of course if I drink enough I might get to singing to Mikes playing then you will wish for sure I would have left early.:rockn:

beer saws and singing!!!!! make sure to take a video camera!!!!!

 

[blsnelling]

Did someone say GTG? I've got a couple examples to bring this time. I hope to make it and meet some more of you guys.

 

[Guido Salvage]

You guys post here so fast I think I gave up around page 470 and haven't checked in since. Got a bunch of stuff today, only had a chance to grab it before the shop closed and run home to get it in the house before the wife arrived. Here are a couple of photos at the shop before I loaded it all up.

Only because I asked if he had any other saws did I end up with the 3 boxes of Poulans and the Dayton based Poulan (a 4Z252 which I think is a 4000). I also got two early saws, a 43 and a 63. There is a yellow S25DA in one box, what I hope may be a 4900 in another and a box of 3400 stuff. If the saws are salvageable I will try to rebuild them, otherwise I just acquired a bunch of good parts.

 

[briantutt]

where do you find hauls like this?

 

[barneyrb]

You guys post here so fast I think I gave up around page 470 and haven't checked in since. Got a bunch of stuff today, only had a chance to grab it before the shop closed and run home to get it in the house before the wife arrived. Here are a couple of photos at the shop before I loaded it all up.

Only because I asked if he had any other saws did I end up with the 3 boxes of Poulans and the Dayton based Poulan (a 4Z252 which I think is a 4000). I also got two early saws, a 43 and a 63. There is a yellow S25DA in one box, what I hope may be a 4900 in another and a box of 3400 stuff. If the saws are salvageable I will try to rebuild them, otherwise I just acquired a bunch of good parts.

The dayton I sent you a PM on earlier is based on the 4200/5200/5400 platform.

 

[stubnail67]

real nice!

really nice haul guiedo!!!!

 

[67 Mustang]

Poulan Model 52

Here is a new thread I just started of my Poulan 52 Two Man saw.

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=164329

 

[Guido Salvage]

where do you find hauls like this?

These came from a small engine repair shop that has been in business for 37 years. It is about 50 miles from my house, but the owner just wanted to get the stuff gone. I was going to ####er on the price before I found the Dayton, three boxes of Poulans and the 9 bars.

 

[briantutt]

These came from a small engine repair shop that has been in business for 37 years. It is about 50 miles from my house, but the owner just wanted to get the stuff gone. I was going to ####er on the price before I found the Dayton, three boxes of Poulans and the 9 bars.

What is the huge one with the roll cage?

 

[OhioGregg]

Sounds good, Gregg. I'll try to be there and may bring Dean along if he promises not to upstage any of us with his Poulan collection.

Sounds like a plan:msp_smile: Dean aand his Poulaans are more than welcome! The more Poulans the merrier.


Gregg,

 

[OhioGregg]

Yes Gregg!!!

Go ahead and reserve a spot for me, Sheila and our GTGmobile now!
If I am still breathing, I aim to be there!


Mike

You & Sheila are at the head of the list!!! Wouldn't be a GTG without you guys.


Gregg,

 

[OhioGregg]

Check er out, got it on Monday, $35

Real nice Dave! I got one just like that. It don't cut half bad, just kinda anoying not having an auto oiler on em.


Gregg,