Nik's Poulan Thread

[67 Mustang]

Totally agree. Don't know what the reserve is but I doubt he'll get enough to cover the cost of a Stihl or Husky 85+ cc saw. However its his right to get as much as the market will bear.

Bob

:agree2:

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

Totally agree. Don't know what the reserve is but I doubt he'll get enough to cover the cost of a Stihl or Husky 85+ cc saw. However its his right to get as much as the market will bear.

Bob

I agree also. My 8500 was REALLY close to mint with the decals complete and all and it did'nt get to 500 bucks with a new 36'' windsor speedtip bar. Of course this was about 3 years ago before I found AS and before this thread was calling it the KING of poulans.

 

[8433jeff]

Totally agree. Don't know what the reserve is but I doubt he'll get enough to cover the cost of a Stihl or Husky 85+ cc saw. However its his right to get as much as the market will bear.

Bob

He can get what he wants for it, more power to him.
Auctions have two people that think the sold item is worth close to what one of them will pay.
That said, I'm not giving him what a new 85 cc saw would cost, as his saw isn't new, and I can't just hop on down to dealer to have warranty work done, or buy parts to do the work myself.
What he gets is what he gets. It was close to my limit last night, so I haven't checked lately.

 

[tbone75]

He can get what he wants for it, more power to him.
Auctions have two people that think the sold item is worth close to what one of them will pay.
That said, I'm not giving him what a new 85 cc saw would cost, as his saw isn't new, and I can't just hop on down to dealer to have warranty work done, or buy parts to do the work myself.
What he gets is what he gets. It was close to my limit last night, so I haven't checked lately.

Not likely to get enough to buy a new one.Can't blame him for trying.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

FWIW, I"m not expecting to get $ for a "brand new" 85cc saw, but would be happy w/enough $ to buy a good used (new to me) 85cc saw. I also used 'new' in the context to mean "current" so I can get parts for my work saw.

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

FWIW, I"m not expecting to get $ for a "brand new" 85cc saw, but would be happy w/enough $ to buy a good used (new to me) 85cc saw. I also used 'new' in the context to mean "current" so I can get parts for my work saw.

If this is what you're looking to get out of it I would say that it's getting close already.:msp_wink:

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Bid or not, it's up to you, not me.

I've been judged by some here based on actions of others even though I've already displayed that my actions are not those of others. I"m basically being called a liar by some, but I can deal with it.

"What goes around, comes around", yes, I agree fully. And it applies both ways. The person you are railing against may be the one knocking at your door to help one day, but the real trick of it is, I'll prob help you anyway.

I've explained why and what I've done, and have been completely open about it, and I'm done with being defensive over it. Any of you who feel the need to drag it out, will find yourselves on a one sided arm wrestling match.

I know better than to call anyone names on this forum, this is about chainsaws. Most of us share a liking to working on the things and using them. Some of us are collectors, some are both users and collectors, we generally all try to get along with each other, I think that's why we have the GTGs. The price of most of the "finished saws" is out of my range. What I like to do is take an older, non-running 5 or 10 dollar saw and repair it to running condition and if I have time, to make it look about like new. I also have some modern saws for my own personal use and a few to sell, so I can afford this hobby.

 

[tbone75]

FWIW, I"m not expecting to get $ for a "brand new" 85cc saw, but would be happy w/enough $ to buy a good used (new to me) 85cc saw. I also used 'new' in the context to mean "current" so I can get parts for my work saw.

Good luck to you.I hope you get it.It is a very nice saw.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Not bad Mark. That was one sorry saw you started with but at least the most important parts were salvageable. Did you save the rings?

Chris B.

Yes the rings were fine and like I said, the compression is very good.

Thing is this 4000 almost went to flight tonight. Damn thing just aint wanting to play fair.

It was late last night when I got it fired up so I didnt have time to mess with the bad cutting out etc. I just assumed a spark problem.

I swapped out to a spare coil, same results. Pulled a known good coil off a running 3400, same results. 2 different new plugs didnt change anything so I'm convinced its not ignition.

Pulled the carb back down and found no problems there. Pulled a NOS carb off the shelf that I had been saving and got the same results. I'm now convinced its not fuel.

Got the thing running again and noticed what appears to be bar oil coming out of the muffler. Figured it had a bad oiler diaphragm so swapped the gaskets and diaphragm out for new ones and got the same results except now the oiler aint working. :msp_mad:

Thought about a case leak except I know it passed a vac test with flying colors.

Can anyone tell me what I'm missing here?

 

[Modifiedmark]

I agree also. My 8500 was REALLY close to mint with the decals complete and all and it did'nt get to 500 bucks with a new 36'' windsor speedtip bar. Of course this was about 3 years ago before I found AS and before this thread was calling it the KING of poulans.

You never heard me call one the King of Poulans. Its a 5200 with a little bigger gas tank, 3/8s bars studs and a little bit better air intake.

If its the King why are there many more 5200's around?

I say it can be the Prince if you want to call it that.

 

[rms61moparman]

Disconnect the kill switch and give 'er a shot!:msp_wink:


Mike

 

[Modifiedmark]

Try the vacuum test with the bar oil tank drained and flushed. Let me just do some of my stupid thinking out loud here. I am good at it but the results are not always what I expect. I had a 650 BSA Lighting Motorcycle that weeped oil through the top of the crankcase and always had a silver dollar spot of dirt in it. It drove me nuts. The casting was porous.! There is a chance that some of the corrosion in your saw caused the castings to do the same thing. With thick bar oil in the tank it would seal it and pull through slow. If flushed with solvent it should pull thru faster and fail the vacuum test. Hey it is my best shot....given the fact presented to me.:jester::jester::jester:

I'll give you credit for that but I vac tested this one as I assembled it. Clean and dry.

The professional line of Poulans lasted quite a few years after the 8500 was discontinued in 84 if I remember right. The Poulan Pro line didnt come out till 88 or 89.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Disconnect the kill switch and give 'er a shot!:msp_wink:


Mike

I forgot to add that I been there and done that as well. In fact I disconnected it at the coil to take the whole kill wire out of the mix.

 

[rms61moparman]

Will it smooth out, or die, when you restrict the airflow at WOT?
Of course you have changed out the plug numerous times?


Mike

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Yes the rings were fine and like I said, the compression is very good.

Thing is this 4000 almost went to flight tonight. Damn thing just aint wanting to play fair.

It was late last night when I got it fired up so I didnt have time to mess with the bad cutting out etc. I just assumed a spark problem.

I swapped out to a spare coil, same results. Pulled a known good coil off a running 3400, same results. 2 different new plugs didnt change anything so I'm convinced its not ignition.

Pulled the carb back down and found no problems there. Pulled a NOS carb off the shelf that I had been saving and got the same results. I'm now convinced its not fuel.

Got the thing running again and noticed what appears to be bar oil coming out of the muffler. Figured it had a bad oiler diaphragm so swapped the gaskets and diaphragm out for new ones and got the same results except now the oiler aint working. :msp_mad:

Thought about a case leak except I know it passed a vac test with flying colors.

Can anyone tell me what I'm missing here?

You about have it covered...maybe fuel line or filter?

 

[rms61moparman]

You about have it covered...maybe fuel line or filter?

I'm gonna say it's electrical.
Almost sounds like a bad ground type situation.
I'd start pulling stuff and wire wheeling everything from the flywheel to the mounting bolts.
I'm gonna say there is some corrosion somewhere that you missed and it's causing an arc over or an intermittent connection!
But what do I know???


Mike

 

[a. palmer jr.]

I'm gonna say it's electrical.
Almost sounds like a bad ground type situation.
I'd start pulling stuff and wire wheeling everything from the flywheel to the mounting bolts.
I'm gonna say there is some corrosion somewhere that you missed and it's causing an arc over or an intermittent connection!
But what do I know???


Mike

It does sound electrical but he just about covered it by changing plugs and coils. I'm not familiar with this particular model so I don't know if it has points or not, but if it does, that's your culprit.

 

[rms61moparman]

It doesn't.

 

[procarbine2k1]

I'm selling the saw to get another one to USE, and save this one for folks who like collecting.

I didn't come here with the intention of drumming up desire for a sale etc, and I knew it was somewhat collectable before I joined AS, and I already had the desire for a newer saw with easier parts replacement.

Ya'll can chose to either believe me or not, but I've done what I think is the fairest thing I can in this situation. If it doesn't bring the reserve, guess what? I won't have the $ to replace it, and it will immediately go back into service where I'll run the risk of breaking it beyond repair and then I'll get to hear from the collectors about what an idiot I was for ruining a great saw...

I can't win for losing.

ETA:
and I'm being judged by the actions of others who have come before me and sold saws after talking them up? I could "maybe" see that if this saw were the ONLY thing I'd talked about on this forum, or been involved with, but if you'll look at my posts, I had met enough great folks here and learned enough to stay and be part of the OVERALL community. This is the first negative experience I've had here, and I hope it's not the way potential new members are usually welcomed into the fold.

You dont have the first thing to feel sorry about. Let me tell you what, there are a few posts in here I would really like to reply to.. but wouldnt have a positive thing to say.

The way I see it, I will do the best I can to get the most I can out of a sale. The better I can do on resale, the better I can do for my family or myself... and let me tell you what, they mean a HECK of a lot more to me than this forum, or the hobby.

For anyone to think what you are doing is wrong, is TOTAL BS- and nothing but.

And if anyone would wonder, I was one of the first to ask about this saw in a PM. I told Number37 what I would be able to do on the saw, and that he needed to do his research before hand- because I may not be willing to give him what it is worth.. and did not want him to sell himself short.
Would I love to have this saw in my collection? YOU BET! But could I fault the guy for wanting a couple extra bucks toward his wallet or his family? Absolutely not, and anyone that would needs a reality check.
Sorry for the rant, this one just had me a bit peeved.

 

[redunshee]

Yes the rings were fine and like I said, the compression is very good.

Thing is this 4000 almost went to flight tonight. Damn thing just aint wanting to play fair.

It was late last night when I got it fired up so I didnt have time to mess with the bad cutting out etc. I just assumed a spark problem.

I swapped out to a spare coil, same results. Pulled a known good coil off a running 3400, same results. 2 different new plugs didnt change anything so I'm convinced its not ignition.

Pulled the carb back down and found no problems there. Pulled a NOS carb off the shelf that I had been saving and got the same results. I'm now convinced its not fuel.

Got the thing running again and noticed what appears to be bar oil coming out of the muffler. Figured it had a bad oiler diaphragm so swapped the gaskets and diaphragm out for new ones and got the same results except now the oiler aint working. :msp_mad:

Thought about a case leak except I know it passed a vac test with flying colors.

Can anyone tell me what I'm missing here?

Mark, I seem to recall having a similar problem a while back. I fiddled and faddled around for hours and finally decided saw was shorting out somewhere. Kill switch lead wire was fine so I cleaned out the case holes for the coil and voila no more problem. I know, its stupid, but what can I tell you.
Bob