Nik's Poulan Thread

[a. palmer jr.]

It doesn't.

You guys were talking about changing the "coil" so I wasn't sure you meant "coil" rather than "module". Anyway, I've always thought that if it was a sharp miss it would be more relating to ignition and it was a surge or something of that nature then it would be more fuel related. Had a Stihl miss out and turned out to be a broken reed valve but then again, some saws don't have reeds either.
He could always start it up and run it when it's dark and see if it arcs anywhere. Found a miss in my old Chevy that way.

 

[briantutt]

Mark,

This is more of a question than an answer but you have switched out so many parts for "known" good parts so I will ask.

Could it be the flywheel somehow? Screwed up magnet or something? Maybe that's not possible but it seems like the only thing left.

Brian

 

[Modifiedmark]

Mark,

This is more of a question than an answer but you have switched out so many parts for "known" good parts so I will ask.

Could it be the flywheel somehow? Screwed up magnet or something? Maybe that's not possible but it seems like the only thing left.

Brian

I dont think so but I will be checking that closer. I have a idea what to check about something else.

Going to the shop now...

 

[FXDC2005]

Poulan 2150

I have a 2150 I'm working on that will start, run for a few seconds and die. I have rebuilt the wt 324 walbro, replaced the fuel lines and primer bulb. To me it acts like its running out of fuel. But when it dies, I pulled the plug and it is wet. It will stay running if the primer bulb is pushed slightly every so often. I'm not sure where to go from here. Any suggestions?

 

[Modifiedmark]

Got it!
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[briantutt]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand?

Got it!
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What was it? We knew you would get it but now we are curious...

 

[67 Mustang]

Got it!

I knew it! Started to tell you to swap that hand guard. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Modifiedmark]

Not a bad looker either.

Found out what the problem was. The kill wire behind the flywheel was rubbing and shorting out. Yeah, yeah I know, I should have checked it sooner but remember this was a complete build up and I checked that wire closely when I installed it.

The problem was I forgot to bend the little metal tabs over that secure that wire to the case to prevent that wire from touching the flywheel. Duh!

Remember when I finished putting this together, it was getting late Sunday night and I guess I was getting in too big a hurry and just spaced it off. Since this one was all spread over the bench, I wanted to get it out of the way before I tore into the Poulan Pro 655 to give it a good once over so I will be ready for the GTG .

I also wanted to show how I beveled the crankcase crank bores. It shure made insalling the crank seals much easier.

 

[briantutt]

flywheel was rubbing, the flywheel. ]

I knew I was right! :hmm3grin2orange:

NOT!

 

[Modifiedmark]

I knew I was right! :hmm3grin2orange:

NOT!

Well like I said, I probably would have checked that sooner but I just knew that it was ok, you know what I mean?

Seems I ran it with that wire unhooked from the coil once though so I dont know whats up there either.

I also opened up the air gap on the coil as well, seems my old set of brass feeler gauges are getting wore out, my .012" blade is now only about .009" thick!

That might have had something to do with it as well.

The good thing is I found that it appears the Poulan 2150/wildthing type coil looks like it can be adapted to these pretty easy, someday when I get time I'm going to try it.

 

[Modifiedmark]

wow, great outcome on that one for sure. So what looked like chain oil in the muffler must have just been assembly lube that wasn't burned due to the sparks going out:msp_scared:

Are you going to sell this one or hang on to it? I think it is fair to say that you have added a little value to this one.:msp_biggrin::msp_biggrin:

What I seen was unburned fuel with syn oil that was dissolving the carbon in the muffler that made it look like oil at first glance.

I think I'll hang on to it for a while anyway.

 

[rms61moparman]

DANG!!!

I wish I'd have said it was going to be electrical!!!

The EXACT same thing happened to the "Ugly Bastard" but I just KNEW that you checked that when you changed the coil.


Mike

 

[cbfarmall]

Found out what the problem was. The kill wire behind the flywheel was rubbing and shorting out. Yeah, yeah I know, I should have checked it sooner but remember this was a complete build up and I checked that wire closely when I installed it.

The problem was I forgot to bend the little metal tabs over that secure that wire to the case to prevent that wire from touching the flywheel. Duh!

Better than me. I nearly pulled my Super 250 down to the crankshaft looking for something locking up the engine only when it was right-side up or flywheel down. Got as far as pulling the fuel tank and stuffer. I thought I lost a piece of rope in a transfer. Turns out I left the points cover retaining clip loose and it would periodically snag the flywheel. No damage done and one more mental note when working on these saws.

Chris B.

 

[Modifiedmark]

DANG!!!

I wish I'd have said it was going to be electrical!!!

The EXACT same thing happened to the "Ugly Bastard" but I just KNEW that you checked that when you changed the coil.


Mike

I figured electrical right away. I did check the wire.:hmm3grin2orange: Just didnt put it in proper.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Better than me. I nearly pulled my Super 250 down to the crankshaft looking for something locking up the engine only when it was right-side up or flywheel down. Got as far as pulling the fuel tank and stuffer. I thought I lost a piece of rope in a transfer. Turns out I left the points cover retaining clip loose and it would periodically snag the flywheel. No damage done and one more mental note when working on these saws.

Chris B.

Well I think we have all had a few, "been there, done that's".

Probably won't be the last either.:msp_unsure:

 

[joe25DA]

glad you figured it out Mark. That saw looks great. I gotta figure out whats going on with my 2 4000's. I think both need seals.

I finished one of my PP335s tonight. Ill post pics and the build specs tommorrow, but after cleaning the muffler tonight i found a hole and cracks off of it. Gonna brig it to work and see if my buddy can tack it. In the mean time Ill swap the muffler off the other PP335 to test this one.

 

[jimdad07]

Got that Craftsman 3.0/PP330 hybrid running. That saw is a little screamer with the muffler opened up a little. Thanks for the help guys.

 

[jimdad07]

hey you know how it works...without pictures....it probably didn't happen...:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

If I post pics, then you'll know I'm full of the brown stuff...

I'll take some out the next time I am in the shop. I'll put up some before, during and after pics.

 

[jimdad07]

Brazing rod works great on 2 stroke mufflers. It is softer than the steel and seems to resist cracking. A little black paint and you are good to go and it don't take much skill....even I can do it....:cool2:

Brazing rod is great. I use it on a regular basis in the refrigeration field. Get the high test stuff, the 15%. The 6% is not all that good for steel.

 

[jimdad07]

great I never tire of looking at Poulans brought back from the grave. Marks 4000 is incredible when you look at what he started with.
I am very impressed with my 330 and I think that is what you put together. That is about all the saw that most people would ever need.

Not me, I'm trying to compensate so I really like big saws:hmm3grin2orange: