Nik's Poulan Thread

[Eccentric]

Sorry for all the newbe questions , but I like to research things,I think that is the fun part of the hobbie also.

The question I have is that I thought the Craftsman 358.356091 is a poulan 3800. I believe I saw a picture posted of one by a member on here that was grey and black and stated that it was a 3800. But I have seen other comments that they are a 3700. I am not doughting anyone I'm just tring to figure witch one it is.

I tried to acces the Poulan privat label link that I found in the Poulan group, but it wount download for me ,I don't know if it because I'm on dial-up( I live in the boonies) or my computer.

Thanks Scott

A grey/black Craftsman of that series would be a 3400 (Craftsman 3.4) or a 3800 (still called a 3.7). The earlier red/black Craftsman 3.7's could be either a 3700 or 3800. All the grey 3.7's were 3800's.

 

[zogger]

3400, walbro hdb

Gee, noticed one reason she won't run good, appears to be a severe lack of the low speed inlet screw/needle and spring.

So, new OEM fuel line and filter, new vent line with OEM duckbill and grommet, new airfilter (I know this thing pops with a squirt in the cylinder) back together.., choke out, throttle lock, yankyankyankyanklyank and...nada. No fuel up the line, it is old school clear line, bone dry. Hmm, thinks I, pesky plugged up screen inside carb, get carb off, looking at it, "hey, supposed to be like THREE screws here..." (inside carb not too bad, cleaned the little screen off and sprayed everything out, diaphragm good, etc)

So, what other make/model/carb (potentially) can I scrounge a compatible L screw and spring off of, (I have limited junkers here, but in town he has a fair pile at the dealers) or do I have to go scrounging online or in town?

Second dumb question, these large bar nuts. They appear to be 9/16ths, but the thread is wrong? None of my generic nuts that size fit, are they proprietary threads, do I need to buy an official bar nut? I know I need a different scrench as well, are they still available new? My 1/2 inch-13 mm ones no workee obviously...


thanks in advance...sorta rats, I know I am close to a good runner, wanted to cut with a new to me saw today....

 

[Modifiedmark]

Gee, noticed one reason she won't run good, appears to be a severe lack of the low speed inlet screw/needle and spring.

So, new OEM fuel line and filter, new vent line with OEM duckbill and grommet, new airfilter (I know this thing pops with a squirt in the cylinder) back together.., choke out, throttle lock, yankyankyankyanklyank and...nada. No fuel up the line, it is old school clear line, bone dry. Hmm, thinks I, pesky plugged up screen inside carb, get carb off, looking at it, "hey, supposed to be like THREE screws here..." (inside carb not too bad, cleaned the little screen off and sprayed everything out, diaphragm good, etc)

So, what other make/model/carb (potentially) can I scrounge a compatible L screw and spring off of, (I have limited junkers here, but in town he has a fair pile at the dealers) or do I have to go scrounging online or in town?

Second dumb question, these large bar nuts. They appear to be 9/16ths, but the thread is wrong? None of my generic nuts that size fit, are they proprietary threads, do I need to buy an official bar nut? I know I need a different scrench as well, are they still available new? My 1/2 inch-13 mm ones no workee obviously...


thanks in advance...sorta rats, I know I am close to a good runner, wanted to cut with a new to me saw today....

If memory serves me right, the HDB carb used the same needles for both the High and Low. I would think that any HDB would be the same but wont swear by it.

The bar studs are 5/16" coarse thread and those were right from the factory with those 9/16" hex nuts with 5/16" threads in them.

You can use regular 5/16" nuts with a 1/2" hex if you want to but I suggest a flat washer under them.

 

[Eccentric]

If memory serves me right, the HDB carb used the same needles for both the High and Low. I would think that any HDB would be the same but wont swear by it.

The bar studs are 5/16" coarse thread and those were right from the factory with those 9/16" hex nuts with 5/16" threads in them.

You can use regular 5/16" nuts with a 1/2" hex if you want to but I suggest a flat washer under them.

Yep. 5/16-18 flange nuts can be found if you search a bit too. Try to get the smooth ones (instead of serrated) if you can.

 

[zogger]

Thanks!

If memory serves me right, the HDB carb used the same needles for both the High and Low. I would think that any HDB would be the same but wont swear by it.

The bar studs are 5/16" coarse thread and those were right from the factory with those 9/16" hex nuts with 5/16" threads in them.

You can use regular 5/16" nuts with a 1/2" hex if you want to but I suggest a flat washer under them.

Thanks man! I'll look around see what I have, if not, go scrounge some, or a spare used carb. I'll scrounge up or look for the nuts at the hardware store..seems it should have a plate across those two bar studs as well as the nuts, just to even out the pressure. There's no dawgs on this thing either, seems there should be at least one. More scrounging. Got another 3400 runner coming in the mail anyway (even swap for an 028 project saw from a member here), but I want multiple good runners, got several large trees coming up, I want every saw that runs to go down with me when I start, some are really big ones. Trying to find a larger bar and some loops for my 245a as well, I got that U boat banana bar 20, that's it for a big bar around my hacienda...

 

[redunshee]

Thanks man! I'll look around see what I have, if not, go scrounge some, or a spare used carb. I'll scrounge up or look for the nuts at the hardware store..seems it should have a plate across those two bar studs as well as the nuts, just to even out the pressure. There's no dawgs on this thing either, seems there should be at least one. More scrounging. Got another 3400 runner coming in the mail anyway (even swap for an 028 project saw from a member here), but I want multiple good runners, got several large trees coming up, I want every saw that runs to go down with me when I start, some are really big ones. Trying to find a larger bar and some loops for my 245a as well, I got that U boat banana bar 20, that's it for a big bar around my hacienda...

If you have a problem finding the HDB Lo or Hi speed screw, let me know. They are the same and I'm sure I have one from a dead carb.
Bob

 

[zogger]

Thanks for the offer

If you have a problem finding the HDB Lo or Hi speed screw, let me know. They are the same and I'm sure I have one from a dead carb.
Bob

Thanks, I might need it, but I am fairly certain I can score what I need from the shop in town out of their junk pile, as they used to be a poulan dealer (ha..still trying to buy their old dealer sign from them...). I try to buy my new parts from them, I pay a bit more than online shopping, to keep on their good side, so I can buy used parts from the pile when I need them, and cheap. So far it is working out OK. They give me some stuff, that is cool as well, scored a small mount used husky bar the other day and two used but serviceable loops.

If I ever get flush, I am going to offer them x-cash for everything old and poulan they got.

 

[thomas1]

i put them up in the swap meet thread but, does anybody need/want a 36/42cc poulan/craftsman/whatever? I have enough that you guys can do a build off for the next GTG.

 

[OhioGregg]

Got a challenge on my hands..

My sister's BF handed me this "mess" Sunday. Its a Craftsman 2.3/16 that used to have the Power Sharp setup. Somebody gave it to him. Is in a case that was open & had water in it. I have seen cruddy saws in my day, but I think this one takes the cake. First thing I did was take off the muffler to see what it looked like. Very surprised, looks great what I can see so far. So started tearing it apart, and start to de-gunk it. LOL Took the fuel cap off, and tank was FULL of water. Oil tank had some in it, also.

The more I took apart, the more I'm thinking this thing might fly again. Gonna need all the obvious service items. Plus a chain adjuster, sprocket, bar & chain. Oh, and I probably should put a new handle on the recoil. I have never seen a bottle/can opener used as a pull handle before. If this thing can be put back in working order, my sister will have a saw of her own..LOL She can help him limb tree tops with it.

Gregg,

 

[a. palmer jr.]

My sister's BF handed me this "mess" Sunday. Its a Craftsman 2.3/16 that used to have the Power Sharp setup. Somebody gave it to him. Is in a case that was open & had water in it. I have seen cruddy saws in my day, but I think this one takes the cake. First thing I did was take off the muffler to see what it looked like. Very surprised, looks great what I can see so far. So started tearing it apart, and start to de-gunk it. LOL Took the fuel cap off, and tank was FULL of water. Oil tank had some in it, also.

The more I took apart, the more I'm thinking this thing might fly again. Gonna need all the obvious service items. Plus a chain adjuster, sprocket, bar & chain. Oh, and I probably should put a new handle on the recoil. I have never seen a bottle/can opener used as a pull handle before. If this thing can be put back in working order, my sister will have a saw of her own..LOL She can help him limb tree tops with it.

Gregg,

Yeah, that's pretty bad but you'd be surprised what a little Purple Power and an engine brush will do for it!

 

[67 Mustang]

My sister's BF handed me this "mess" Sunday. Its a Craftsman 2.3/16 that used to have the Power Sharp setup. Somebody gave it to him. Is in a case that was open & had water in it. I have seen cruddy saws in my day, but I think this one takes the cake. First thing I did was take off the muffler to see what it looked like. Very surprised, looks great what I can see so far. So started tearing it apart, and start to de-gunk it. LOL Took the fuel cap off, and tank was FULL of water. Oil tank had some in it, also.

The more I took apart, the more I'm thinking this thing might fly again. Gonna need all the obvious service items. Plus a chain adjuster, sprocket, bar & chain. Oh, and I probably should put a new handle on the recoil. I have never seen a bottle/can opener used as a pull handle before. If this thing can be put back in working order, my sister will have a saw of her own..LOL She can help him limb tree tops with it.



Gregg,

But just think of the feelings of pride and accomplishment you'll have at restoring this great old saw, Gregg. :msp_biggrin: That big grin is just the start. Looks like it even has the original banana nose bar. What a find! Maybe they'll insist on your keeping that paint can/bottle opener for your very own as payment for your work. (BTW, that was quite innovative on someone's part.) Have fun!

 

[Eccentric]

Better pull that one all the way down Gregg. Crank bearings, rings, and machined surfaces may just have a bit of rust going on....

 

[tbone75]

Purple Power is good stuff!But don't let it sit on the painted parts very long it will dull it bad!Ask how I know LOL

 

[edisto]

It even came with its own seal puller!

 

[stubnail67]

check this one out!

So i need another top handle saw like well a hole in my head... but i have been climbin alot of late and my lil echos were really struggling in a nice size oak i just did... Ive been trying to get myself a s5da type saw with anti vibe i can use as a work saw for bigger limbs.. so i saw thin one on the bay bought it i have not got it yet another week or so... what caught my eye is this is the first one i have seen with a safety trigger so im guessin its one of the last models made???? anyone ever seen one like this??? I Really hope it has a good P/C on it.....anyone else have one like this every one i have ever seen does not have this type of handle..... I know one of ya all know !!!!check it out!!!!here is the pic.View attachment 204292

 

[tbone75]

So i need another top handle saw like well a hole in my head... but i have been climbin alot of late and my lil echos were really struggling in a nice size oak i just did... Ive been trying to get myself a s5da type saw with anti vibe i can use as a work saw for bigger limbs.. so i saw thin one on the bay bought it i have not got it yet another week or so... what caught my eye is this is the first one i have seen with a safety trigger so im guessin its one of the last models made???? anyone ever seen one like this??? I Really hope it has a good P/C on it.....anyone else have one like this every one i have ever seen does not have this type of handle..... I know one of ya all know !!!!check it out!!!!here is the pic.View attachment 204292

Looks like it will clean up nice!

 

[stubnail67]

yep

Looks like it will clean up nice!

yep i cant wait to get it !!! I have been wanting a nice cva 25da saw *crossin my fingers the P/C are in good shape!

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Purple Power is good stuff!But don't let it sit on the painted parts very long it will dull it bad!Ask how I know LOL

Yeah, I just hose it off and dry it. It doesn't take long for that stuff to work.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Better pull that one all the way down Gregg. Crank bearings, rings, and machined surfaces may just have a bit of rust going on....

I agree, you should have seen the insides of my Aldens. Good thing I got to it when I did or it would have been too late much later.

 

[stubnail67]

the blue dawn!

Yeah, I just hose it off and dry it. It doesn't take long for that stuff to work.

that degreaser will take the paint off for sure ive been usin dish soap and elbo grease more and more and compressed air in the insides!