Nik's Poulan Thread

[Modifiedmark]

I forgot that I had a picture of it.

 

[Eccentric]

You saved that saw Mark? Looked pretty far gone at that point...

 

[WoodChuck'r]

$up guys.


I know this is the Poulan Thread but I figured I could find someone in here to help.


Another n00b - looking for a recoil or recoil spring for his Pioneer Farmsaw...


http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/183756.htm

 

[OhioGregg]

Poulan..Poulan..Poulan..!!! There, I feel much better now. 24+ hours without AS. Almost worse than quitting smoking!


Gregg,

 

[OhioGregg]

Dug into my ugly project a little more. I'm starting to think that ugly, is mostly skin deep too. Have been pleasantly surprised by the looks of things inside. P/C look great. The crank case looks great too! I was fearing the worst there.

Gregg,

 

[WoodChuck'r]

$up guys.


I know this is the Poulan Thread but I figured I could find someone in here to help.


Another n00b - looking for a recoil or recoil spring for his Pioneer Farmsaw...


http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/183756.htm

Anyone....??

 

[zogger]

wrong forum

Anyone....??

Try the swap meet or the actual pioneer forum maybe?

 

[WoodChuck'r]

I checked the swap meet and didn't find anything.

I went here instead of the Pioneer thread which sounds silly but this thread gets a lot of traffic.

I'll go there and post the link for this guy there as well - just lookin' to help a n00b out.

 

[OhioGregg]

This is all I can come up with, concerning a Pioneer Farm Saw. Sorry, Thats about all I know about that.

Gregg,

 

[nick 55]

Hey everyone. I'm new here, pretty new to the wood cutting world too for that matter. This site has been awesome reading for me and I have learned a lot. Thanks for any input you guys could give me. I didn't want to clog up the forum with a silly question for an even more silly saw. I have a PP4620(I know, it's a homeowner saw, but it works for me for now) and it has treated me well for the year I've owned it. I treat my things very well and I clean it every time I am finished with it. I took the air filter out the other day to clean it and noticed it did filter a lot of (wood)dust out, but some still got past. Is there anything I can do to prevent that? The filter isn't real high quality, like a piece of gauze bandage molded into plastic. Is there a better alternative? The stock filter is Poulan #545057701 if that helps. Would it be possible to use like K&N filter oil on it to keep things cleaner? Again, thanks for any help you guys would be able to offer.

Nick

 

[jerrycmorrow]

Hey everyone. I'm new here, pretty new to the wood cutting world too for that matter. This site has been awesome reading for me and I have learned a lot. Thanks for any input you guys could give me. I didn't want to clog up the forum with a silly question for an even more silly saw.

Nick

hey nick, welcome to AS. just so's you know - the only silly questions are the ones i ask:biggrin: can't help you on your question but one of the experts will be along soon. can rep ya though.

 

[zogger]

Hey everyone. I'm new here, pretty new to the wood cutting world too for that matter. This site has been awesome reading for me and I have learned a lot. Thanks for any input you guys could give me. I didn't want to clog up the forum with a silly question for an even more silly saw. I have a PP4620(I know, it's a homeowner saw, but it works for me for now) and it has treated me well for the year I've owned it. I treat my things very well and I clean it every time I am finished with it. I took the air filter out the other day to clean it and noticed it did filter a lot of (wood)dust out, but some still got past. Is there anything I can do to prevent that? The filter isn't real high quality, like a piece of gauze bandage molded into plastic. Is there a better alternative? The stock filter is Poulan #545057701 if that helps. Would it be possible to use like K&N filter oil on it to keep things cleaner? Again, thanks for any help you guys would be able to offer.

Nick

Is it getting through the filter, or around the filter?

If around, maybe a bit of vaseline around the edges where it comes together, if through, some guys here snag a pair of the old lady's nylons and slip the filter into the foot end and cut it off and have like an extra layer of fine mesh screen.

As to the filter oil, I don't know, why not just try it? Replacement filters aren't that expensive.

 

[nick 55]

Thanks guys! I have a couple filters ordered to keep on hand. It appears the dust is getting through the filter, like it's a poor design. I will try the pantyhose thing too.

What's the rep thing I keep seeing?

Nick

 

[rms61moparman]

Is it getting through the filter, or around the filter?

If around, maybe a bit of vaseline around the edges where it comes together, if through, some guys here snag a pair of the old lady's nylons and slip the filter into the foot end and cut it off and have like an extra layer of fine mesh screen.

As to the filter oil, I don't know, why not just try it? Replacement filters aren't that expensive.

You can do what you want, but I would never use that filter oil on a chainsaw filter.
It DOES attract the dust.........................and it KEEPS it too!!!
You just can't hardly blow the dust out of a filter treated with that stuff.
I was going to suggest the nylon stocking IF you just can't sleep without doing something.

Just a differing opinion......WAY too much time, space, energy and effort is devoted on this site trying to conjure up "The sky is falling" non existant problems concerning filtration!!!
I just smile pitiously and shake my head when a good thread deteriorates to the classic..."Well your saw may be lighter, stronger, faster, cheaper and have better build quality than mine....BUT, mine has better filtration!" retort.

Now don't get me wrong, filtration should definitely be in the top 50 things to consider when buying a saw....but just barely! Probably either #48 or #49.

My standard reply, and almost every one of the regulars here have either heard me say it or read where I have stated..."There are THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of 3400 Poulans still cutting wood and running like new and they had one of the worst filtering systems EVER on a chainsaw, so I'm not gonna' get my panties twisted over an air filter!!!".
I have seen countless Poulans, Homelites and Macs that have been run for YEARS with either NO filter or one with the flocking completely missing.

But what do I know......after all I'm just a firewood cutter!


Mike

 

[Andyshine77]

You can do what you want, but I would never use that filter oil on a chainsaw filter.
It DOES attract the dust.........................and it KEEPS it too!!!
You just can't hardly blow the dust out of a filter treated with that stuff.
I was going to suggest the nylon stocking IF you just can't sleep without doing something.

Just a differing opinion......WAY too much time, space, energy and effort is devoted on this site trying to conjure up "The sky is falling" non existant problems concerning filtration!!!
I just smile pitiously and shake my head when a good thread deteriorates to the classic..."Well your saw may be lighter, stronger, faster, cheaper and have better build quality than mine....BUT, mine has better filtration!" retort.

Now don't get me wrong, filtration should definitely be in the top 50 things to consider when buying a saw....but just barely! Probably either #48 or #49.

My standard reply, and almost every one of the regulars here have either heard me say it or read where I have stated..."There are THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of 3400 Poulans still cutting wood and running like new and they had one of the worst filtering systems EVER on a chainsaw, so I'm not gonna' get my panties twisted over an air filter!!!".
I have seen countless Poulans, Homelites and Macs that have been run for YEARS with either NO filter or one with the flocking completely missing.

But what do I know......after all I'm just a firewood cutter!


Mike

Well Mike we've had this discussion and to a point you have a point, but like I said you can't compare the old saws to the new ones. The tolerances are all over the place, the bearings even have play. So sure on an old saw a bit of wood will flush out, in a modern saw I could see the bottom end burning up.

 

[OhioGregg]

Hey everyone. I'm new here, pretty new to the wood cutting world too for that matter. This site has been awesome reading for me and I have learned a lot. Thanks for any input you guys could give me. I didn't want to clog up the forum with a silly question for an even more silly saw. I have a PP4620(I know, it's a homeowner saw, but it works for me for now) and it has treated me well for the year I've owned it. I treat my things very well and I clean it every time I am finished with it. I took the air filter out the other day to clean it and noticed it did filter a lot of (wood)dust out, but some still got past. Is there anything I can do to prevent that? The filter isn't real high quality, like a piece of gauze bandage molded into plastic. Is there a better alternative? The stock filter is Poulan #545057701 if that helps. Would it be possible to use like K&N filter oil on it to keep things cleaner? Again, thanks for any help you guys would be able to offer.

Nick

Welcome Nick! I'm not familiar with the 4620, or any of the newer Poulans. But, I wouldn't worry to much about it, like Mike said. Most of my older 3400/3700 types, I would clean em off with a soft brush every time I stopped to refill fuel & oil, while in the woods cutting. Never had a problem with them. When at the shop, I clean them with air also. When they start getting dirtier, I just buy a new one.

I have posted a picture before, of some that came on saws I bought over the years. If that don't scare ya...LOL When ya see those, any fines that might pass, would be the least of my worries.

Gregg,

 

[Modifiedmark]

I checked the swap meet and didn't find anything.

I went here instead of the Pioneer thread which sounds silly but this thread gets a lot of traffic.

I'll go there and post the link for this guy there as well - just lookin' to help a n00b out.

By now the Pioneer guys probably have your question taken care of. They know all too well about the less then steller starter setup on those saws. What a shame on a decent saw...

 

[Modifiedmark]

You saved that saw Mark? Looked pretty far gone at that point...

Yes it was not pretty but not as bad as first sight would lead to believe.
Just pointing out how things can look inside even though the outside looks pretty good. Thats a reason why I never just gas up a old saw to see if it will run without giving it a look over.

Dug into my ugly project a little more. I'm starting to think that ugly, is mostly skin deep too. Have been pleasantly surprised by the looks of things inside. P/C look great. The crank case looks great too! I was fearing the worst there.



Gregg,

That thing looks pretty good now.

Might as well pop some seals in it while you got it down that far and you plan on useing it.

I might as well say that I found a NOS Poulan 25 oiler diaphragm on Ebay if someone wants to find it. I have a couple stashed away but if its still there in a day or so I'll have another. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[67 Mustang]

Welcome Nick! I'm not familiar with the 4620, or any of the newer Poulans. But, I wouldn't worry to much about it, like Mike said. Most of my older 3400/3700 types, I would clean em off with a soft brush every time I stopped to refill fuel & oil, while in the woods cutting. Never had a problem with them. When at the shop, I clean them with air also. When they start getting dirtier, I just buy a new one.

I have posted a picture before, of some that came on saws I bought over the years. If that don't scare ya...LOL When ya see those, any fines that might pass, would be the least of my worries.

Gregg,

No wonder your old saws run so good, Gregg. There's nothing to impede their breathing! :msp_w00t:

 

[Nardoo]

Welcome Nick! I'm not familiar with the 4620, or any of the newer Poulans. But, I wouldn't worry to much about it, like Mike said. Most of my older 3400/3700 types, I would clean em off with a soft brush every time I stopped to refill fuel & oil, while in the woods cutting. Never had a problem with them. When at the shop, I clean them with air also. When they start getting dirtier, I just buy a new one.

I have posted a picture before, of some that came on saws I bought over the years. If that don't scare ya...LOL When ya see those, any fines that might pass, would be the least of my worries.


Gregg,

Gregg, those filters sure are well used. Back in '82 when I bought my first 3400 the guy in the shop used to put a bead of araldite glue around the edge of the filter to ensure a better seal. He was selling them to pro loggers at the time and swore it made a difference.
I just bought two new filters and even including shipping to me in Oz they cost $6.00 each. At that price I can afford to throw them away occassionally.

Al.