Nik's Poulan Thread

[nick 55]

Good point Zogger. I've just been doing a lot of exotic work lately and my mind wonders. I actually thought about tossing a cylinder in when I send parts to the machine shop and having them give it a go.

Nick

 

[redunshee]

A few days ago someone on here posted about buying lime green paint. I need some for a S25DA and I have checked the parts houses and Lowes and came up empty. If anyone knows where I can get a can please let me know. Thanks Tom

Dodge Sublime Green is about as close as you can get. If you google the paint you will see that you can get it in spray cans for modeling. Not sure how that holds up. Other alternative is to buy it by the quart with hardner seperate. MOre $ . I believe the OP bought his at Advance Auto Parts. None in my area.
Bob

 

[redunshee]

Thanks to nick55 and stubnails67 for the reply. Tom

!970 Dodge Sublime Green. Paint Code J-5, color code 2128

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Key Lime

Here's what I came across at Rural King. It's called Key Lime Painter's Touch by Rust-Oleum. I've used it on a couple of Poulans and looks good if you're painting the whole saw. If you just paint something like a clutch cover it looks like you've added a new part to the saw, most of those Lime colors will fade with time.
The flash bulb made it look more yellow than the can is.

 

[redunshee]

Here's what I came across at Rural King. It's called Key Lime Painter's Touch by Rust-Oleum. I've used it on a couple of Poulans and looks good if you're painting the whole saw. If you just paint something like a clutch cover it looks like you've added a new part to the saw, most of those Lime colors will fade with time.
The flash bulb made it look more yellow than the can is.

Maybe the pic but it looks a little yellow

 

[redunshee]

Here's what I came across at Rural King. It's called Key Lime Painter's Touch by Rust-Oleum. I've used it on a couple of Poulans and looks good if you're painting the whole saw. If you just paint something like a clutch cover it looks like you've added a new part to the saw, most of those Lime colors will fade with time.
The flash bulb made it look more yellow than the can is.

OOOPS. Should have read last sentence

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Maybe the pic but it looks a little yellow

It is the pic, actually the flash seemed to take the green out of it. It's actually lime color. I'm not much of a photographer.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

If it helps any, here's a pic of my 3500 with the clutch cover painted with this.

 

[sac]

Cylinder help

Cylinder help

I picked up another Craftsman/Poulan 3800 for a parts saw, but decided to tear it down and rebuild it. Before I tore it down I did a compression test on it and was 125, I know from reading on here that is about the norm for this series of saws. But when I took the cylinder off and looked in it I found 3 grooves that you can see and feel, I don't know if you can see them that well in the pictures?The piston doesn't look that bad.
My question is go ahead and put new rings in and see how it runs or wait to find another p/c? I was thinking of trying to find either a 3700 or 4000 p/c for it.

Thanks Scott

 

[8433jeff]

Cylinder help

I picked up another Craftsman/Poulan 3800 for a parts saw, but decided to tear it down and rebuild it. Before I tore it down I did a compression test on it and was 125, I know from reading on here that is about the norm for this series of saws. But when I took the cylinder off and looked in it I found 3 grooves that you can see and feel, I don't know if you can see them that well in the pictures?The piston doesn't look that bad.
My question is go ahead and put new rings in and see how it runs or wait to find another p/c? I was thinking of trying to find either a 3700 or 4000 p/c for it.

Thanks Scott

At 125, I'd run it with the old rings. Ditch the base gasket, muffler mod, and cut wood. New rings may help out 5-10 lbs at most, maybe not at all. Its your saw, do what you need to.

 

[HeRoze]

At 125, I'd run it with the old rings. Ditch the base gasket, muffler mod, and cut wood. New rings may help out 5-10 lbs at most, maybe not at all. Its your saw, do what you need to.

scott-

good advice.

but you pulled the piston already... if the rings look good leave 'em alone. if you already removed and broke 'em like I do, well rings are cheap. a little scotch-brite hand buffing on the cylinder wall wouldn't hurt, just to knock any sharp edges or transitions off.

jeff - why ditch the base gasket??

 

[redunshee]

scott-

good advice.

but you pulled the piston already... if the rings look good leave 'em alone. if you already removed and broke 'em like I do, well rings are cheap. a little scotch-brite hand buffing on the cylinder wall wouldn't hurt, just to knock any sharp edges or transitions off.

jeff - why ditch the base gasket??

Leaving out the base gasket and using a good gasket maker like Moto Seal or Dirko Ht increases the comp a bit.

 

[stubnail67]

cool man!

Here's what I came across at Rural King. It's called Key Lime Painter's Touch by Rust-Oleum. I've used it on a couple of Poulans and looks good if you're painting the whole saw. If you just paint something like a clutch cover it looks like you've added a new part to the saw, most of those Lime colors will fade with time.
The flash bulb made it look more yellow than the can is.

thats real cool!!! wonder if you hit it later with a clearcoat it would be gas resistant???wonder if they make an engine clear coat???

 

[barneyrb]

At 125, I'd run it with the old rings. Ditch the base gasket, muffler mod, and cut wood. New rings may help out 5-10 lbs at most, maybe not at all. Its your saw, do what you need to.

If you will swap grooves with the rings (bottom to top and top to bottom) many times this will increase compression a little, sorta a poor mans rering job

 

[a. palmer jr.]

thats real cool!!! wonder if you hit it later with a clearcoat it would be gas resistant???wonder if they make an engine clear coat???

I've used PPG Quik Clear on top of this, but then again you're talking spray gun. It requires a hardener. Here's one I did.

 

[HeRoze]

Leaving out the base gasket and using a good gasket maker like Moto Seal or Dirko Ht increases the comp a bit.

makes sense, effectively increasing the stroke-length during the compression portion. does the delay of the exhaust counter the gains from the increased comp?

 

[8433jeff]

makes sense, effectively increasing the stroke-length during the compression portion. does the delay of the exhaust counter the gains from the increased comp?

And the stroke-length is also increased during the power stroke.
No. Yes. Maybe. Never took the time to put it on the dyno, it just cuts better cause I think it does. :hmm3grin2orange:A thinner piece of copper or aluminum may also be a help/replacement. Motoseal fits every saw; I have few, if any, gaskets on hand.
As cheap as they are, espescially in a set, I have no excuse not to use them. I seldom do.

 

[Modifiedmark]

makes sense, effectively increasing the stroke-length during the compression portion. does the delay of the exhaust counter the gains from the increased comp?

No, it cannot increase the stroke that way. You can only do that by putting a longer stroke in the crankshaft.

What you are doing though it raising the piston up closer to the top of the cylinder and reducing the chamber volume at TDC.

 

[Wagnerwerks]

Adding to the pile.... again

I added a few more green ones to the living pile. The herd is growing. I just got the 3400 together but it has a little knock. I guess I'll have to get in there and see what's up. The saw looks very clean otherwise. Any common problems for these? The XX was a bit of a job to do fuel lines, but after I finished going over that, I started working on my neighbors Mini-mac. Wow..... what a job. I owe him big so I'll finish it no matter what.


On another note, are these poulan bar covers common?

 

[edisto]

For some reason, the wife couldn't wait until Saturday to get a tree for Christmas. I'm glad she didn't. We were the only ones at the tree farm, and the owner was the only one working.

After he cut down our tree, I asked him if the Husky he used was a 41, and we started talking saws...he is not fond of ethanol! He asked if I played with saws as a hobby, and when I said yes, he said he had an old Poulan he'd give me. While I was tying the tree onto the car, he walked up and gave me this 361:

I was pretty surprised! I offered to pay him for it, but he wouldn't take anything. Then he told me it was running fine when he put it up, but that it probably would need a carb kit by now.

I kept offering him money, and he kept on saying know. He finally said that he didn't want it around, because one of his less-experienced employees might use it, and wind up hurting themselves.

I sure hope I get some time over the holidays to work on some saws, because they are starting to pile up!