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This should tell you all you need to know about doing the lines on these. I should have added that most of the next series of saws used the same procedure and lines also. I'm talking the 2700-3300 and Poulan Pro that correspond to those.
Bob, thats a good idea and I have a 655 and some P-41 project saws I can give those a check. That said some of the smaller Pioneer saws used a fitting like these as well but they used a bigger hole with very coarse threads with the same size barb on both sides so there not very good to use for this application.
The main thing with these is the 1/8 barb on one side and the 3/16 on the other.
The big problem with these is that large fitting on the carb itself. If that fittting could be swapped for a smaller 1/8" one a man could use a grommet in the tank and a regular 1/8ID line in one piece.
The only reason I can see that Poulan went with this larger ID line to begin with was that the original filter bodies had a check valve inside them to hold the fuel in the line instead of draining back to the tank when not in use. They probably needed the bigger dia to house that check valve but the outlet hole in the filter barb was very small and about 1/8" dia.
redunshee
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Mark, you may be correct. My 405 has a large nipple on the carb side and I believe the same size nipple on the tank size.
zogger
Tree Freak
OK, some pics
Few pics of the latest Poulan scores
Group shot, let me see, I think I have this correct, top, left to right, super25da, xxv countervibe, mystery hulk, middle, craftsman 2.0 similar small one (real close to being a good runner), a 3400, bottom row, a 3400 (one runs good, have three runners now), a 2150, then a wylde thang
One I am working on now, this one runs but had clutch cover missing and muffler missing, but has a clutch and sprocket
I have this one, but it is locked up, haven't even taken it apart yet to see what is up with it. This ones clutch cover will bolt on the xxv but doesn't cover the muffler area at all.
The spare small bar from the 1800, want to use it on that xxv one I am working on now.
Few pics of the latest Poulan scores
Group shot, let me see, I think I have this correct, top, left to right, super25da, xxv countervibe, mystery hulk, middle, craftsman 2.0 similar small one (real close to being a good runner), a 3400, bottom row, a 3400 (one runs good, have three runners now), a 2150, then a wylde thang
One I am working on now, this one runs but had clutch cover missing and muffler missing, but has a clutch and sprocket
I have this one, but it is locked up, haven't even taken it apart yet to see what is up with it. This ones clutch cover will bolt on the xxv but doesn't cover the muffler area at all.
The spare small bar from the 1800, want to use it on that xxv one I am working on now.
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zogger
Tree Freak
More pics
Some more I just took before back to work...
the xxv and s25da, clutch side
That craftsman 2.0
recently repaired good runner 3400 (not in the previous right above pics)
Some more I just took before back to work...
the xxv and s25da, clutch side
That craftsman 2.0
recently repaired good runner 3400 (not in the previous right above pics)
Eccentric
Mister Wizard
Zogger every top handle saw you pictured except the red Craftsman 2.0 is of the XXV family (not Micro). The Craftsman is the sole Micro family saw of the group. You can interchange sprockets between all the pictured top handle saws...........except the Craftsman. You CAN swap bars and chains between the Micro and XXV series saws however. The rear handle saws in the pics are of course not related to the top handles, except by manufacturer.
stubnail67
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like it!!!
I like that lil red micro light lil saws!!!!great with a 12 inch bar!!!
Some more I just took before back to work...
the xxv and s25da, clutch side
That craftsman 2.0
recently repaired good runner 3400 (not in the previous right above pics)
I like that lil red micro light lil saws!!!!great with a 12 inch bar!!!
zogger
Tree Freak
--Ya man, that's a cutie for sure. I think it is a 14 on it, have to check again. That one I just reset the metering lever lower, it was running so rich it was spitting gas out bad and would bog down and stall and screw adjusting didn't do much. Now it is *almost* there, have to do it again. Or perhaps there's some junk in the reed, don't know. Besides that, starts good once the chamber is dry.
The XXV is now running strong and starting perfectly, that 16" bar fit fine and it oils well. Just need to scrounge the outside muffler chunks and cut some foam scrap for an air filter. Zooba, sounds mean with no muffler, but I don't want to run it like that much..
Then I hit the wylde thang, that will run easy peasey, just needs new lines and filter is all and a cleaning. Opened the tank to rinse it out and chunks 0 line fell out, along with half a pint of pure slime. Ran about three seconds just with a shot of carb spray. Someone put a brand new plug in it too, bonus! heheheh I'll hog the muff out on that one and see what I can do with the carb screws, might have to get one of the poulan tools if they are splined.
I still need bunches of tools. Have no compression tester, vac tester, clutch tools, that splined carb tool, case tools, pullers, nada, nothing really saw specific. But I am getting faster at the easier stuff and analysis I think.
Oh ya, and a *shop*. I can work in the greenhouse this time of year, summer, fergettaboutit.
zogger
Tree Freak
Thanks! Of the three, the one I have running now is it, the other two both got roached pistons. So I have some spare parts for the good runner if needed.
So the XXVs are considered more desirable, more powerful? I think it says 38cc some place on it. They are certainly *light*. My husky 137 is only 36 CCs and is a lot heavier. Of course that is a rear handle with a brake and some antivibe, but still..a lot heavier. Revs real dang good though. That was my one saw plan for quite a spell there.
Eccentric
Mister Wizard
The XXV series saws can hang with any modern saws of similar displacement. They're also extremely well thought out, durable, and easy to work on. The only 'flaw' I've seen in the design is the bar bolt threading into magnesium method of securing the bar and clutch cover (rather than a stud and a nut like most other saws). IIRC, the last saws made of this series had a stud and a nut. IMHO, there's NEVER been a top handle saw of ANY era that was as good as the XXV series. Keep that under yer hat though, as we want people to continue to think they're all just "Pull-On" junk...
An XXV (also called a 25, 25D, or 25DA depending on whether it has an automatic oiler and a few other minor differences) is 34cc. A Super XXV (also called an S25, S25D, S25DA, or S25-CVA depending on oiler differences and whether or not it's a Counter Vibe model) is 38cc. Sears/Craftsman equivelants are the 2.1 (XXV) and 2.3 (S25). Sears sold many variants. Some had PowerSharp clutch covers. Some were CVA saws. Etc.......
Saws in the Micro family were made from 30-ish cc through 38cc. MANY variations in the series (some were also called "Micro XXV" and "25 Micro", just to confuse us). There was even a rear handle saw based on the Micro (2400, or Craftsman 2.4). I wish Poulan had made a rear handle XXV saw, but they never did. Also good, strong saws. The 38cc versions are a tad less powerful than the S25 saws. The Micro and XXV saws are intended towards two different markets (consumer vs pro), but the lines were 'blurred' between the two several times over a few decades.
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nick 55
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Thanks for the break-down of the small saws. I initially picked one up as an alternative to an MS200 for a fraction of the price. Now I have 7. Not all are or will be runners, but I want two or three to be.
Nick
Nick
homelitejim
Full of Scrap
Until I find the nipples, I improvised and used a phillips screwdriver inserted into the end of the hose and used low heat to form the end of the hose repeating the process on the carb side after cutting to length. I will post up some pics in a while.
zogger
Tree Freak
The XXV series saws can hang with any modern saws of similar displacement. They're also extremely well thought out, durable, and easy to work on. The only 'flaw' I've seen in the design is the bar bolt threading into magnesium method of securing the bar and clutch cover (rather than a stud and a nut like most other saws). IIRC, the last saws made of this series had a stud and a nut. IMHO, there's NEVER been a top handle saw of ANY era that was as good as the XXV series. Keep that under yer hat though, as we want people to continue to think they're all just "Pull-On" junk...
An XXV (also called a 25, 25D, or 25DA depending on whether it has an automatic oiler and a few other minor differences) is 34cc. A Super XXV (also called an S25, S25D, S25DA, or S25-CVA depending on oiler differences and whether or not it's a Counter Vibe model) is 38cc. Sears/Craftsman equivelants are the 2.1 (XXV) and 2.3 (S25). Sears sold many variants. Some had PowerSharp clutch covers. Some were CVA saws. Etc.......
Saws in the Micro family were made from 30-ish cc through 38cc. MANY variations in the series (some were also called "Micro XXV" and "25 Micro", just to confuse us). There was even a rear handle saw based on the Micro (2400, or Craftsman 2.4). I wish Poulan had made a rear handle XXV saw, but they never did. Also good, strong saws. The 38cc versions are a tad less powerful than the S25 saws. The Micro and XXV saws are intended towards two different markets (consumer vs pro), but the lines were 'blurred' between the two several times over a few decades.
Thanks a lot, good post!
homelitejim
Full of Scrap
Wooo Hooo! 1 Poulan 8500 in the run catagory, it is killing me not to finish cleaning the parts, may have to do a quick clean tomorrow so I can get it on video. I am stoked, won't be to long before the other 8500 and 5400 are in the same catagory.
zogger
Tree Freak
Wooo Hooo! 1 Poulan 8500 in the run catagory, it is killing me not to finish cleaning the parts, may have to do a quick clean tomorrow so I can get it on video. I am stoked, won't be to long before the other 8500 and 5400 are in the same catagory.
Yasss, video. I want to see a big Poulan moto-vatin! You have any big wood to try it in?
homelitejim
Full of Scrap
Not at the house but I know where a nice piece is, will just have to go get it.
ebay sellers
im a little mad right now. I bought an S25 on ebay for $15. Its a later model, hopefully not smoked. Anyway, I didnt look at the shipping until after Id won it. Ive shipped at least 30 of these saws in 4 years and not one cost more than $15 to ship. So I paid last week, hes just shipping today (no idea how he managed that) and when I asked aout refunding the difference on the shipping i was ignored. Messaged him again, Im sure its pointless, but its BS. Ill see on the package what he paid.:msp_mad:
im a little mad right now. I bought an S25 on ebay for $15. Its a later model, hopefully not smoked. Anyway, I didnt look at the shipping until after Id won it. Ive shipped at least 30 of these saws in 4 years and not one cost more than $15 to ship. So I paid last week, hes just shipping today (no idea how he managed that) and when I asked aout refunding the difference on the shipping i was ignored. Messaged him again, Im sure its pointless, but its BS. Ill see on the package what he paid.:msp_mad:
stubnail67
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what was it???
i have had a few cost 17 bucks then you add 80 cents for confirmation your at 18 ebays fees your at 19 ... what did he charge you for shipping and where was it from????
i have had a few cost 17 bucks then you add 80 cents for confirmation your at 18 ebays fees your at 19 ... what did he charge you for shipping and where was it from????
stubnail67
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heck!
heck i just bought one for 31 bucks and 22.66 for shipping but it has the case so im betting it will be close as box size seems to make price go up....i will look and see what he really paid when i get it and let you know joe.... if you take the handle off and box it small i know the price was around 16 and then 80 for a confermation number.....
heck i just bought one for 31 bucks and 22.66 for shipping but it has the case so im betting it will be close as box size seems to make price go up....i will look and see what he really paid when i get it and let you know joe.... if you take the handle off and box it small i know the price was around 16 and then 80 for a confermation number.....
