Nik's Poulan Thread

[OhioGregg]

How common are chain brake units for the 3400,3700,3800,4000 saws. I took a gamble on some brakes for other saws and got 2 nos brake clutch cover units in poulan pro color.
Bob

I'm gonna say, not very common. At least in the U.S. Canada was a different story. They were required there and were an option here. Until Govt. regulations changed here also. Poulan was actually opposed to the chain brake, stating so in there ads, brochures etc. There are several Poulan guys here that have them. I only own two saws with brakes. A Husky 385xp and a PP super 380. The Poulan Pro 380 I have was from mid 90's and were required by then.


Gregg,

 

[nick 55]

How common are chain brake units for the 3400,3700,3800,4000 saws. I took a gamble on some brakes for other saws and got 2 nos brake clutch cover units in poulan pro color.
Bob

Like Greg said, they are pretty rare for that series of saws, at least in the USA. Maybe in Austrailia they were common like Canada but here, but then again, we don't have to tie down a load in our pickups if it sticks above the sides.

Nick

 

[Showme]

Showme, Is this what your Deluxe Super 25 looks like? The covers from most S25's should fit I believe. Different years had different decals.

As far as a clutch cover for PP375 goes, I might have ya covered on that. Its in good shape, no breaks or cracks that I know of. Adjuster is complete and working. The decal is pretty much crap, and she ain't pretty. If ya want it, just PM me your address and I'll send your way.

Gregg,

I could certainly use that 375 clutch cover. PM sent.

 

[nick 55]

Showme, I got to the Post Office 10 minutes after they closed today. Your S25 clutch cover is boxed up, labeled, and in my car for when I leave the house tomorrow morning. Sorry, I didn't clean it up or anything, just boxed up and labeled.

Nick

 

[Showme]

That's perfect. Ran the little saw for the first time tonight. Runs great, leaking bar oil like crazy. Mine has the on/off switch as a slide switch, not the toggle as on yours.

 

[joe25DA]

I'm gonna say, not very common. At least in the U.S. Canada was a different story. They were required there and were an option here. Until Govt. regulations changed here also. Poulan was actually opposed to the chain brake, stating so in there ads, brochures etc. There are several Poulan guys here that have them. I only own two saws with brakes. A Husky 385xp and a PP super 380. The Poulan Pro 380 I have was from mid 90's and were required by then.


Gregg,

395 with brake

4000 with brake

 

[nick 55]

That's perfect. Ran the little saw for the first time tonight. Runs great, leaking bar oil like crazy. Mine has the on/off switch as a slide switch, not the toggle as on yours.

Yours is probably a 2.1ci saw then, and not a Super. But that's just my experience, and I could be wrong. What color is the trigger and manual oiler button?

Nick

 

[Showme]

Yours is probably a 2.1ci saw then, and not a Super. But that's just my experience, and I could be wrong. What color is the trigger and manual oiler button?

Nick

Black trIgger. No manual oiler.

 

[BroncoRN]

Super 25da question

I joined the poulan ranks with this little one and now im trying to get her running. Rebuilt the carb today but I think the kit was missing a diaphram and Im not sure if I put it back together right. I can get it to fire and run for a couple minutes then it seems to die out. Found a diagram tonight and im gonna double check my work tomorrow. I had to reuse one of the diaphrams which is only temporary. Had to order an intake gasket as well.

Did the walbro carbs on these saws use those little metal discs that were in the carb kit?

Did these saws have two piece gas tanks? I think I found my gas leak and tightened two of the screws on the bottom of the saw but I guess we will see tomorrow.

 

[nick 55]

The carbs did use those discs, but I've found they suck to pop out of the carb body and suck to put back in. The fuel tank top is the base of the top handle(if it isn't a CVA) and there is supposed to be a gasket between the tank bottom and the top. According to the service manual, if those screws holding the halves together are loosened with fuel in the tank, a leak is going to occur. I have heard of people using Dirko or Yamabond instead, but never tried it myself.

Nick

 

[redunshee]

I've split the tanks on two of my saws and used Dirko HT instead of the gasket. Hasn't leaked but then again it hasn't sat very long with fuel in the tank,

 

[XPLRN]

I have a Homelite 1050 that is a project currently and that is why I was looking for another big/6 cube saw that was actually running and ready to use. How does the Poulan 655 run out powerwise compared to the other 6 cube saws??

I'ts one of the strongest 6-ci chainsaws ever produced.

So with the Poulan 655 being "one of the strongest 6-ci chainsaws" where does a Pioneer/Partner P65 fall into the 6-ci mix power wise??

 

[nick 55]

The 655 and the P65 are pretty much the same saw. There may be slight differences, but if I remember correctly, Partner was acquired by Poulan and their saws were rebranded as Poulan Pro, but still built in the same factory. One of the old timers(ModifiedMark, ahem) will chime in and confirm or correct my information(if he isn't too busy ripping on my pick up with leather interior).:msp_rolleyes:

Nick

 

[XPLRN]

P65 vs. 655

The 655 and the P65 are pretty much the same saw. There may be slight differences, but if I remember correctly, Partner was acquired by Poulan and their saws were rebranded as Poulan Pro, but still built in the same factory. One of the old timers(ModifiedMark, ahem) will chime in and confirm or correct my information(if he isn't too busy ripping on my pick up with leather interior).:msp_rolleyes:

Nick

Thanks for your reply Nick! I was thinking that was how it played out with the transition......wonder how how much was changed!??

Yes, the ol' timers(at what age does that start!??) are a wealth of knowledge and hopefully can make some suggestions regarding parts availability for the P65!!

 

[dynodave]

3400/3800 isolators

I tried a search on isolators and did not find much. Question is, this series of saw in the IPL shows 2 #'s for isolators.
530024373 $2.05 @TEW and
530024528 hard 70 $4.24, I assume rubber durometer 70 which is quite hard.
I need to get 2 to replace the ones that turned to mush. This saw has the later hex spacer. The other 2 are quite soft and good and have cleaned up OK. So as soon as I get my piston in I want to assemble my "new" 61cc saw and try it out on that big red oak out in the back yard. What are your experience on isolators on this saw? Are the originals the "soft" ones?
This will be my 2nd biggest saw now that I finally received delivery of the husky 298XP (100cc). What a monster that one is...:msp_w00t:

I did end up buying an ebay P/C $55. I hope it's not a piece of junk.
Thanks

 

[nick 55]

Yes, the ol' timers(at what age does that start!??) are a wealth of knowledge and hopefully can make some suggestions regarding parts availability for the P65!!

Old age starts at 40. Just kidding, I'm nearly there myself.

The 655 had a BP version at some point that was short for Boost Port. Teddy Scout actually did a couple nice YouTube videos describing the differences and visual identification with and without disassembling the cylinders.

I would still like to find a nice 655. I've had a few leads on some, but nobody would send me any pics of their "like new" and "barely used" saws so I kind of lost interest.

Nick

 

[redunshee]

I tried a search on isolators and did not find much. Question is, this series of saw in the IPL shows 2 #'s for isolators.
530024373 $2.05 @TEW and
530024528 hard 70 $4.24, I assume rubber durometer 70 which is quite hard.
I need to get 2 to replace the ones that turned to mush. This saw has the later hex spacer. The other 2 are quite soft and good and have cleaned up OK. So as soon as I get my piston in I want to assemble my "new" 61cc saw and try it out on that big red oak out in the back yard. What are your experience on isolators on this saw? Are the originals the "soft" ones?
This will be my 2nd biggest saw now that I finally received delivery of the husky 298XP (100cc). What a monster that one is...:msp_w00t:

I did end up buying an ebay P/C $55. I hope it's not a piece of junk.
Thanks

Most all I've seen are soft enough that you can squeeze into the four case holes for them. The later hex screw for the back shouldn't matter. I have two I'll send you. Just PM me your address. You do the the metal cylinder that fits inside the isloator, right? Remember when you order rings that the 3800 uses thick rings not thin like the 3700 or 4000. The part # is 530025933.
Bob

 

[redunshee]

Old age starts at 40. Just kidding, I'm nearly there myself.

The 655 had a BP version at some point that was short for Boost Port. Teddy Scout actually did a couple nice YouTube videos describing the differences and visual identification with and without disassembling the cylinders.

I would still like to find a nice 655. I've had a few leads on some, but nobody would send me any pics of their "like new" and "barely used" saws so I kind of lost interest.

Nick

You know Mark will get you for this!

 

[redunshee]

Thanks for your reply Nick! I was thinking that was how it played out with the transition......wonder how how much was changed!??

Yes, the ol' timers(at what age does that start!??) are a wealth of knowledge and hopefully can make some suggestions regarding parts availability for the P65!!

I believe that there is no diff. and parts will interchange. Not sure if the P65 had a boost port, though. Parts are hard to find. I did buy an oil pump but had to wait a while and it was expenseive.
Bob

 

[XPLRN]

A fun CAD desert packrat adventure!! Revised for Poulan Thread.....

I realize that some folks don't peruse the main chainsaw forum..........a lot of times I don't either as the things I'm interested in are in the "Stickies" threads.

Ran across a CL listing for a ' Poulan 14" chainsaw............runs good' . So I had to call the guy and ask about it......turned out to be a Super25DA. Well I have got some other smaller saws and wasn't interested in that saw but he made inference to having some other saws so I asked him what he had. He said he had a "gnarly old bigger Poulan" ratholed away in one of his sheds that had ran a number of years ago but didn't have a bar and chain. Claimed he it ran years ago and that he would go out and start it up every once in awhile and that it had a lot of "bark" to it. Well that caught my interest and as I was going to be out running around I ask if I could come on by and check it out.

Talk about out in BFE..........he was way heck and gone out in the NW part of the Valley(Valley of the Sun/Phoenix). So I got directions and made my way out there. This guy was sooo cool......he's a mega collector and had 30+ years of "stuff" sitting around.....everything from a old Citroen car with the funky 2-cylinder opposed engine, sliding glass front and rear side windows(a really great design IMHO) and the weird one spoke steering wheel to a first year Honda Goldwing. All kinds of old motorcycles(think Kawie H3, Honda SilverWing............just crazy amounts of stuff!!

Anyways the "gnarly old bigger Poulan" turned out to be this;

Sooo what bar mount configuration will this saw require!?? :help:

Siberian Sam is guarding the 5200; "My saw" he sez!!

I stayed out there at that guy's place till dark just talking with him and checking out all the cool "stuff" that he had rat-holed away out in the desert!!

Sooo then I get home and start researching basic stuff for the 5200.......like air filter availability........and run across this;

Your correct, the 5200 and 5400 use the same filter. The 8500 is completly different.

Looks like its time to figure out how to refilter a used original. I have had thoughts about it but no time yet to try anything.

Does anyone have a new 5200 air filter they would be interested in parting with......or has anyone figured out how "refilter" the 5200 air filter?? I talked with one cool shop owner (AS member it turns out) and he mentioned opening up the filter and fitting air filter pre-cleaner foam inside of the filter to provide additional filtering media.

I'll need to pull the muffler assembly off and check out the P/C condition before wanting to spend more money on getting other parts to try and bring this saw back to life.