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OK. Maybe my 2 S25CVA's all have S25DA covers. They all do look the same on my saws.
Bob
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OK. Maybe my 2 S25CVA's all have S25DA covers. They all do look the same on my saws.
Bob
Here's the same Homelite 'S' clip on the early Homelite XL-12, McCulloch 7-10A, Poulan 306A, and Poulan 3400. Same stud size and spacing. This oughta open up some options. My 306A has another of these 'S' spacer clips along with a Windsor TXL mount bar.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for checking that "S" clip out. That should help. The bar plate info is even better news. The outer should fit on the 4200/5200 series with no work at all.
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The "subjects". Green electronic ignition S25-CVA and red Craftsman 2.1A (25DA).
Clutch covers from the same saws. Notice that the top edge of the covers is where the differences are. There is a plate riveted to the CVA cover, and there's a 'profiled' section on the top of the red 25DA cover.
The red 25DA cover fits on the CVA saw, and the 'profiled' top edge is mostly hidden. The riveted plate on the top of the green CVA cover hits the handlebar mount section of the 25DA carb box, preventing the cover from seating on the saw.
Ok. I see. Upon further inspection of my saws, I stand corrected. Covers are differant. That's what I get for trying to remember w/o looking. Any way I have an extra s25CVA cover, if anyone needs it.
redunshee
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I can't answer your question Al. But, as of yesterday, there was at least one 4000, and one 3.7 Craftsman, still running and cutting wood here in the back woods of Ohio.:msp_thumbsup:
Was kinda expecting to have to work on, tinker with, cuss at, these "old Poulan junks" according to some folks. But, they worked flawlessly, again. Imagine that.
Gregg,
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If you do haved a PP405, it has 65cc's whereas the 8500 has 20 more CC's, as I recall. I believe the PP525 may be in the 80+ cc range.
Bob
Got to thinking about that Bob, as I'm sittin here sucking down my 3rd. cup of coffee, before I go out and split wood. Would be my GUESS that the Poulan model 25 and its varients, would be their all time sales leader. Followed by the 3400 and its kind. After that, I'm not sure. Then there is allways the saw everybody loves to hate, The Wildthing and its many varients, got to be a bazillion of them out there amongst us.
Gregg,
Got to thinking about that Bob, as I'm sittin here sucking down my 3rd. cup of coffee, before I go out and split wood. Would be my GUESS that the Poulan model 25 and its varients, would be their all time sales leader. Followed by the 3400 and its kind. After that, I'm not sure. Then there is allways the saw everybody loves to hate, The Wildthing and its many varients, got to be a bazillion of them out there amongst us.
Gregg,
Just guessing myself, but I would say the S25 helped put Poulan at the forefront and was a money maker for them, I still have a feeling that the Micro XXV and all of its variants would probably be its all time sales leader, and might be one of the leading sellers of all time from any manufacturer.
There solid construction, performance, low price any many rebadges shipped all over the world is points to record setting sales.
There again, that's just my guessing here.
Yep, I agree! I was kinda lumping the model 25's and the micros together. Along with all the many rebadged models, that are to numerous to mention.:msp_biggrin:
I didn't mention the 306/245 type saws either. But there had to be boat loads of them made and sold too. In rebadged form also.
Gregg,
Got to thinking also. You could allmost judge by whats available in the market place for sale. Like ebay for example. 25's and micros seem to dominate the Poulan adds. Plus, I don't think I have ever looked at ebay, without seeing a 3400 or 2, or a dozen.
Gregg,
Gregg,
Got to thinking also. You could allmost judge by whats available in the market place for sale. Like ebay for example. 25's and micros seem to dominate the Poulan adds. Plus, I don't think I have ever looked at ebay, without seeing a 3400 or 2, or a dozen.
Gregg,
Agreed !
I just picked up an almost new looking 2z463b from the 'local' flea market Sunday. Took it home and put some fuel in it and it fired up and ran great. Remind me again, what's the difference between the A and the B? They appear to be the same..
Style of decomp
I have an A and a B model, both the de-comps look similar to me, maybe, in all these years someone changed a few parts around. Is the change visible or is it something inside? Appears to be a nice saw, think I'll try using it a little today on the good sized maple I have down, been using the John Deere 80EV and it's been doing a great job on the trunk.
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Please tell me what is a "kitless carb cleanout"?
I would love to know what that is.
('kitless' quickie carb cleanout)
Larry
Inner early Homlite XL-12 bar plate used without modification on a Poulan 3400.
Outer early XL-12 bar plate next to the 3400 clutch cover. Part that must be removed is marked with black ink. Used the inner plate as a template, as the Homelite inner plate has the slot for the adjuster.
Inner plate drilled with a 5/16" bit in the drill press. Go slow, as this spring steel is tough and the bit likes to wander.
Here's the same XL-12 inner plate after modification. Mounted on the 3400 clutch cover. It's been drilled and then cut out with a dremel tool and a reinforced cutoff wheel, and then cleaned up with a file.
Here's the Homelite XL-12 inner bar plate, along with the 'S' clip and the Homelite bar nuts.
Here's the 3400 runner after a 'kitless' quickie carb cleanout, fuel line replacement, quickie hammer/chisel/screwdriver 'muffler mod' (with the diffuser drilled to 3/8"), and installation of the early Homelite XL-12 bar plates an bar nuts, late Homelite SXL starter handle, and 18" sprocket nose b/c that came from yet another Homelite. Also installed a "rare in the US" chainbrake type clutch cover that just made the long journey accross the sea from the land of Oz. A 'hybrid' chainsaw....
I would love to know what that is.
('kitless' quickie carb cleanout)
Larry
Warped5
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To me, it's a carb teardown where all the gaskets/diaphragms remain undamaged.
Metal parts get dunked in the USC for a few cycles. If diaphragms are still supple enough, reassemble then reinstall and run.
Whole thing takes about :45.
got to run my 361 this weekend. once i got the carb tuned in and programmed my brain to press the oiler button it ran great. lots of guts with no bog and relatively light weight. now i love another saw.
Any pictures?
Eccentric
Mister Wizard
That's it. "Rebuilding" the carb when you don't have the needed kit...............and hoping the old gaskets, diaphragms, and needle all still do their jobs correctly. I did replace one part; put a 'spare' screen from an RK-23HS kit in that little Walbro HDB as the original was fubar. I need to remember to order a couple K10-HDB kits the next time I stock up. I want to do this carb "right" soon, and I have another saw in this series (Craftsman red) on the way.
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no action pix but i can always show you a pic of the saw. try for tomorrow
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