Nik's Poulan Thread

[EZRYDER]

Thanks guys but I don't get it about the splined screws.

Don't hold back Mike. Tell us how you really feel. I agree on them splined screws. I wish ALL of my saws had those! I wanted to richen the H screw a tad on the 385xp today while milling with it.
Fumbling around with a little screw driver, in a dark hole that you can't see in. Maybe its just advanced age catching up with me. But sure would have been easier with a splined screw & screw driver.


Gregg,

Talk about egg sucking! So why doesn't the MANUAL even mention the special tool??? The EGG SUCKERS want you to go to their SERVICE CENTER and get ripped off for a minor carb adjust which would probably cost a good percentage of the saw price. It is a conspiracy! I am old (66) and am watching this industry and all industries encouraging consumers to be mentally and physically lazy and force them into opening their wallets. Listen carefully; I have been an accountant for 45 years and I fully understand deception. I had to learn it at an early age in order to survive in my career. I can't tell you how many lies I have had to contrive. I can say, now that I am semi-retired, independent, and answer to nobody except good friends, the only deception that I was part of was in a level playing field with industrial and governmental entities who had the same knowledge that I did. I would, and have never deceived an innocent consumer. That includes the ENRONs etc that preyed on investors. I know I am way off topic but it makes me happy to speak my mind.
OK, so I can get this tool, instead of a screwdriver, and adjust the carb ???.
Fine, then F this all. I will sell this 5 yr old 295 under powered, 20" 46cc SOB that I bought because it was pretty and when I get it running will go back to playing with my 25+ yr old all metal saws that I trust and understand.
Larry

 

[stubnail67]

yep

Al, are you sure the crankcase was leaking ?.

Smoking bad and the oiler not working sounds like a bad oiler check valve to me.

The old stand by Permatex # 2 will probably work ok but I would use Permatex MotoSeal myself.

thats what i find alot ... I sure wish some one would do a how to to fix up the old check valves....i tried one but i gumed it up...

 

[rms61moparman]

Talk about egg sucking! So why doesn't the MANUAL even mention the special tool??? The EGG SUCKERS want you to go to their SERVICE CENTER and get ripped off for a minor carb adjust which would probably cost a good percentage of the saw price. It is a conspiracy! I am old (66) and am watching this industry and all industries encouraging consumers to be mentally and physically lazy and force them into opening their wallets. Listen carefully; I have been an accountant for 45 years and I fully understand deception. I had to learn it at an early age in order to survive in my career. I can't tell you how many lies I have had to contrive. I can say, now that I am semi-retired, independent, and answer to nobody except good friends, the only deception that I was part of was in a level playing field with industrial and governmental entities who had the same knowledge that I did. I would, and have never deceived an innocent consumer. That includes the ENRONs etc that preyed on investors. I know I am way off topic but it makes me happy to speak my mind.
OK, so I can get this tool, instead of a screwdriver, and adjust the carb ???.
Fine, then F this all. I will sell this 5 yr old 295 under powered, 20" 46cc SOB that I bought because it was pretty and when I get it running will go back to playing with my 25+ yr old all metal saws that I trust and understand.
Larry

Do what you want, but the 295 is actually a great little saw if they are right and the splined screws are much easier to adjust on a running chainsaw than the slotted ones.
I wish there was a retro-fit kit available for all of my old junks! (Not that I could afford that many kits!LOL I might get it done one saw at a time though!)


Mike

 

[Modifiedmark]

Talk about egg sucking! So why doesn't the MANUAL even mention the special tool??? The EGG SUCKERS want you to go to their SERVICE CENTER and get ripped off for a minor carb adjust which would probably cost a good percentage of the saw price. It is a conspiracy! I am old (66) and am watching this industry and all industries encouraging consumers to be mentally and physically lazy and force them into opening their wallets. Listen carefully; I have been an accountant for 45 years and I fully understand deception. I had to learn it at an early age in order to survive in my career. I can't tell you how many lies I have had to contrive. I can say, now that I am semi-retired, independent, and answer to nobody except good friends, the only deception that I was part of was in a level playing field with industrial and governmental entities who had the same knowledge that I did. I would, and have never deceived an innocent consumer. That includes the ENRONs etc that preyed on investors. I know I am way off topic but it makes me happy to speak my mind.
OK, so I can get this tool, instead of a screwdriver, and adjust the carb ???.
Fine, then F this all. I will sell this 5 yr old 295 under powered, 20" 46cc SOB that I bought because it was pretty and when I get it running will go back to playing with my 25+ yr old all metal saws that I trust and understand.
Larry

Listen there smart guy, you dont get it at all.

Go research EPA and all there requirements and you will see whats going on with those splined screws and you will find out why there the best setup you could hope for now days..

 

[redunshee]

Talk about egg sucking! So why doesn't the MANUAL even mention the special tool??? The EGG SUCKERS want you to go to their SERVICE CENTER and get ripped off for a minor carb adjust which would probably cost a good percentage of the saw price. It is a conspiracy! I am old (66) and am watching this industry and all industries encouraging consumers to be mentally and physically lazy and force them into opening their wallets. Listen carefully; I have been an accountant for 45 years and I fully understand deception. I had to learn it at an early age in order to survive in my career. I can't tell you how many lies I have had to contrive. I can say, now that I am semi-retired, independent, and answer to nobody except good friends, the only deception that I was part of was in a level playing field with industrial and governmental entities who had the same knowledge that I did. I would, and have never deceived an innocent consumer. That includes the ENRONs etc that preyed on investors. I know I am way off topic but it makes me happy to speak my mind.
OK, so I can get this tool, instead of a screwdriver, and adjust the carb ???.
Fine, then F this all. I will sell this 5 yr old 295 under powered, 20" 46cc SOB that I bought because it was pretty and when I get it running will go back to playing with my 25+ yr old all metal saws that I trust and understand.
Larry

Larry, you have to take a deep breath and chill out. You're retired or semi retired and thus shouldn't need to get riled up. That's why you retired right? I have three WildThings and cut slots in the screws for the "normal" screwdriver on two of them. The other one I left alone. Guess what the saws with the slotted screws is much harder to adjust, esp. with the saw running. Even with the saw off, getting a normal screwdriver into the rubber dust shield and hitting the slot is chancey at best. The splined screwdriver works. However if you want to go the old route use your dremel and cut slots in the top of the screws.
Bob

 

[redunshee]

They aren't perfect! But close enough for the girls we hang out with.:msp_biggrin:
The last time I made some square wood, I mounted the rail gizmo directly to the log. Decided to do it this time, with the rail system mounted to a log table thing I made. I made mine a lot taller than recemended. I like to stand UPRIGHT and push the saw, rather than being hunched over or on my knees.:msp_smile: Took me awhile to get it put back together. Been about 4 years since I last used it.


Gregg,

Gregg, nice job. What exactly is the purpose of using the squares at the GTG? Why not just use the log as God created it. Just curious and jealous that I can't make it.
Bob

 

[brokenbudget]

Listen there smart guy, you dont get it at all.

Go research EPA and all there requirements and you will see whats going on with those splined screws and you will find out why there the best setup you could hope for now days..

yup. there are alot of different heads for the jets on carbs that make me see red sometimes. at least with the splined ones you can leave it on the jet and run the saw, give it a small turn, run the saw..... let alone they practicly self guide themselves on. one of the only good thing to come from epa intrusion.

 

[Showme]

Makes me want to get one of these saws with the splined screws just so I can get the tool!

 

[67 Mustang]

Gregg, nice job. What exactly is the purpose of using the squares at the GTG? Why not just use the log as God created it. Just curious and jealous that I can't make it.
Bob

I'll take a stab at answering, Bob. Others can correct me. I see two reasons for cants:

1) Make consistent timed cuts since each cookie will be cut from the exact same size wood. Good for racing.

2) Cleans the wood up by cutting the bark off which often has dirt and even mud if it's been dragged. This is very important to keep chains sharp especially specially filed race chains that are often quite expensive.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Talk about egg sucking! So why doesn't the MANUAL even mention the special tool??? The EGG SUCKERS want you to go to their SERVICE CENTER and get ripped off for a minor carb adjust which would probably cost a good percentage of the saw price. It is a conspiracy! I am old (66) and am watching this industry and all industries encouraging consumers to be mentally and physically lazy and force them into opening their wallets. Listen carefully; I have been an accountant for 45 years and I fully understand deception. I had to learn it at an early age in order to survive in my career. I can't tell you how many lies I have had to contrive. I can say, now that I am semi-retired, independent, and answer to nobody except good friends, the only deception that I was part of was in a level playing field with industrial and governmental entities who had the same knowledge that I did. I would, and have never deceived an innocent consumer. That includes the ENRONs etc that preyed on investors. I know I am way off topic but it makes me happy to speak my mind.
OK, so I can get this tool, instead of a screwdriver, and adjust the carb ???.
Fine, then F this all. I will sell this 5 yr old 295 under powered, 20" 46cc SOB that I bought because it was pretty and when I get it running will go back to playing with my 25+ yr old all metal saws that I trust and understand.
Larry

Larry, you don't need any special tool. I've been using an old piece of copper tubing that just fits over the jet, push it on it and it makes it's own splines. No more often than I come across these splined screws I didn't think it worth the expense.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Larry, you don't need any special tool. I've been using an old piece of copper tubing that just fits over the jet, push it on it and it makes it's own splines. No more often than I come across these splined screws I didn't think it worth the expense.

You don't think there worth the expense because you evidently have never used one. For petes sake, I have bought them for as little as $6 shipped to the door.

I can be on the tight side myself a lot of times, but a few of you are really out there.

 

[OhioGregg]

Gregg, nice job. What exactly is the purpose of using the squares at the GTG? Why not just use the log as God created it. Just curious and jealous that I can't make it.
Bob

Bob, Steve pretty much covered it. I'm NOT a saw racer. I'm lucky just to have a saw that runs and a chain that will cut wood.:redface: I have a bunch of good old round wood also.
One easy thing to see when your making a square cant, is just how crooked, uneven, a tree can be. No matter how straight & equal a log looks, they taper from one end to the other. Just the way a tree grows I guess.

From what I gather, they usually like to use a softer wood also. Thats why I made these out of Basswood. Guess its easier on them fancy chains. Look at this pic. You can see just how inconsistant a log can be. There is only one side to be cut off yet.

Gregg,

 

[67 Mustang]

I'm NOT a saw racer. I'm lucky just to have a saw that runs and a chain that will cut wood.:redface: I have a bunch of good old round wood also.
One easy thing to see when your making a square cant, is just how crooked, uneven, a tree can be. No matter how straight & equal a log looks, they taper from one end to the other. Just the way a tree grows I guess.

From what I gather, they usually like to use a softer wood also. Thats why I made these out of Basswood. Guess its easier on them fancy chains. Look at this pic. You can see just how inconsistant a log can be. There is only one side to be cut off yet.


Gregg,

That's a great illustration of why you need to keep the wood consistent, Gregg! I'm with you. I'm no racer and I'll be wary of any "ol' junks" or "ugly bastards" that show up. I think the "cats are out of the bag" there. (Those with those now worn out cliches know who you are.) But it will give us the opportunity of comparing some of the older saws, possibly with the new ones as well, to illustrate any differences in cutting speed. For instance, you could compare a 5200 to 8500 or even saws with similar displacemet such as 306 vs. 3700.

Steve

 

[OhioGregg]

That's a great illustration of why you need to keep the wood consistent, Gregg! I'm with you. I'm no racer and I'll be wary of any "ol' junks" or "ugly bastards" that show up. I think the "cats are out of the bag" there. (Those with those now worn out cliches know who you are.) But it will give us the opportunity of comparing some of the older saws, possibly with the new ones as well, to illustrate any differences in cutting speed. For instance, you could compare a 5200 to 8500 or even saws with similar displacemet such as 306 vs. 3700.

Steve

I'm with ya there Steve! That feller from Kentucky is a sly dog. If there was a picture in the dictionary next to sandbagger, his smilling puss would be there. He has a 4000, I want no part of in a race. But, I still am anxious to run it. :msp_biggrin:


Gregg,

 

[jerrycmorrow]

seems like when i search for the splined drivers i see sets with various sizes. or do i? is this the rare instance of "one size fits all" actually works or are there different sizes. i have two newer saws with the splined L and H screws. one, i cut a slot in; the other, never been adjusted for lack of a splined driver. definitely wanting to get on of them drivers, just don't want to buy one the wrong size. makin any sense here?

 

[Kostas]

You don't think there worth the expense because you evidently have never used one. For petes sake, I have bought them for as little as $6 shipped to the door.

I can be on the tight side myself a lot of times, but a few of you are really out there.

I agree.When i got my first saw with the splined screws,i couldn't believe that i am not able to adjust it because i needed a special tool.I tried to find a tube to fit to the screw,i tried to cut an edge to each screw for a flat screw driver but when i got the tool,i couldn't believe how good are the splined screws.So simple and with silly cost.

 

[scottr]

seems like when i search for the splined drivers i see sets with various sizes. or do i? is this the rare instance of "one size fits all" actually works or are there different sizes. i have two newer saws with the splined L and H screws. one, i cut a slot in; the other, never been adjusted for lack of a splined driver. definitely wanting to get on of them drivers, just don't want to buy one the wrong size. makin any sense here?

Jerry, I was in the same boat and just bought the limiters. They are easy to cut the ears off of with wire cutter and then you can use a slotted screw driver to make adjustments.

 

[Modifiedmark]

seems like when i search for the splined drivers i see sets with various sizes. or do i? is this the rare instance of "one size fits all" actually works or are there different sizes. i have two newer saws with the splined L and H screws. one, i cut a slot in; the other, never been adjusted for lack of a splined driver. definitely wanting to get on of them drivers, just don't want to buy one the wrong size. makin any sense here?

Just go to eBay a do a search for Poulan or Husqvarna carb tool.

 

[Acornhill]

thats what i find alot ... I sure wish some one would do a how to to fix up the old check valves....i tried one but i gumed it up...

Stub, i did this once by grinding the check valve off just enough to remove the screen, i removed the disolved duck bill and cleaned, installed new duck bill and mixed up some JB weld installed the sceen back on the valve and smeered JB weld on the outside edge of the valve to hold the screen in place. it seems to have work but i have only used the saw sparingly. Mark did give me the idea in doing this though.

 

[stubnail67]

Stub, i did this once by grinding the check valve off just enough to remove the screen, i removed the disolved duck bill and cleaned, installed new duck bill and mixed up some JB weld installed the sceen back on the valve and smeered JB weld on the outside edge of the valve to hold the screen in place. it seems to have work but i have only used the saw sparingly. Mark did give me the idea in doing this though.

i tried it with moto seal think some how i gummed it up used to much goo... i may order about ten of the duck bills and keep trying till i get one right ... jb weld eh? i will try that to... thanks....