Pioneer chainsaws

[cbfarmall]

This one came in the other day.
Pioneer 700, Not in to bad of shape. Nothing broken,
or cracked, Just missing the fuel bowl, latch and screen.
Great compression and runs on a prime. As soon as i find
the parts it should be a great runner.


Lee

A 700 with a 750 muffler? The cylinders are slightly different externally--the boss for the upper muffler mount is out further on the 700 than the 750. When I put the 700 muffler one the 750, I used a couple washers to take up the space. The exhaust ports are differently shaped--two different gaskets. I can't remember if one is bridged and one isn't.

Anyway, I'm in love with my 700. Got another one waiting on some TLC. Yours is super clean.

Chris B.

 

[Pie.n.ear650]

Got fed up with all the play in the 620 starter, so machined it out and made this insert to a .004" press fit.

Much better now :msp_thumbup:

 

[Lou]

P41
Here
Lou

 

[parrisw]

Got fed up with all the play in the 620 starter, so machined it out and made this insert to a .004" press fit.

Much better now :msp_thumbup:

Nice work! All I did on my RA was weld inside the cup then machine it out. I only ran a few beads then machined works fine now, but not as pretty as yours.

 

[Pie.n.ear650]

Thanks Parrisw, seemed alot easier to do it this way.

 

[parrisw]

Thanks Parrisw, seemed alot easier to do it this way.

Ya, in the end you have a nicer piece too. One day when I have nothing to do I'll do the same as you did.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Good work,..that has been a standard fix for those old recoil cups for a good many years, we freeze the ring and heat the cup, pop it in and when everything reaches normal air temp its good and solid repair.

 

[beastmaster]

Pioneer P 40 gift.

My father in law stopped by to pick up some fire wood I collected for him, and gave me his old saw. Said he didn't need one that big any more.
It's a pioneer P 40 and seems to be in decent condition. I don't know its age, but its all metal.
It's been in my possession for less then an hour, and I will do a search for information later. I was hoping I could get a little info on this saw to satisfy my curiosity before I have to go to work tomorrow. Thanks. Beastmaster

 

[Lou]

Courtesy of Mike Acres (Chain Saw Collectors Corner).
Model Profile: P40
Lou

 

[WesternSaw]

My father in law stopped by to pick up some fire wood I collected for him, and gave me his old saw. Said he didn't need one that big any more.
It's a pioneer P 40 and seems to be in decent condition. I don't know its age, but its all metal.
It's been in my possession for less then an hour, and I will do a search for information later. I was hoping I could get a little info on this saw to satisfy my curiosity before I have to go to work tomorrow. Thanks. Beastmaster

Congratulations on the Pioneer P40.The legend lives on in someone else's hands!
Lawrence

 

[Ambull]

Thanks to Madsaw, I have some nice 404 .058 chains for my P60. I took a little video of the first cuts with it. Afterwards I realized it was running a bit too lean, which explains the loss of power in the cut. I originally tuned it for 10,200 RPM at WOT, but it needs to be more like 9800. The 64 link chain fit perfectly on the bar. Thanks again to Madsaw!!!

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[Big Neal]

Pioneer 1100 holiday

Hi folks, just looking for info on how to remove the flywheel on my 1100 holiday. I removed the castle nut (clockwise) and was trying to determine if the flywheel is tapered or?

If you have a tip for me I'd appreciate it.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Hi folks, just looking for info on how to remove the flywheel on my 1100 holiday. I removed the castle nut (clockwise) and was trying to determine if the flywheel is tapered or?

If you have a tip for me I'd appreciate it.

Cank and flywheel are tapered, a puller connected to the holes in the flywheel where the starter pawls are located, remove them and connect the puller is the safest method. A hard rapp from a brass or aluminum hammer / soft metal drift and steel hammer on the end of the crank with the saw held up by flywheel clear of the benchtop will also pop the flywheel off.

 

[Big Neal]

Cank and flywheel are tapered, a puller connected to the holes in the flywheel where the starter pawls are located, remove them and connect the puller is the safest method. A hard rapp from a brass or aluminum hammer / soft metal drift and steel hammer on the end of the crank with the saw held up by flywheel clear of the benchtop will also pop the flywheel off.

O.k Thanks dude..

I was wondering if I could use a brass drift while lifting the flywheel ever so gently while my partner gave the drift a rap....

While I've got you, is there a muffler available for the 1100? The stack is a killer on the ears w/out ppe... I would like to tone it down a hair for my neighbors sake if anything but if there's nothing that's cool too.

 

[pioneerguy600]

O.k Thanks dude..

I was wondering if I could use a brass drift while lifting the flywheel ever so gently while my partner gave the drift a rap....

While I've got you, is there a muffler available for the 1100? The stack is a killer on the ears w/out ppe... I would like to tone it down a hair for my neighbors sake if anything but if there's nothing that's cool too.

Yes, the later 1100`s had pressed tin mufflers, that toned them down some, the stacked ones would make your ears bleed...LOL

 

[WesternSaw]

More Pioneer IPL's

Well I got a nice surprise when I finally purchased two Solo Rex's from a good fella back east.He was kind enough to included a bonus, which was an original Pioneer binder with IPL's and some service bulletins.Not sure how much of the literature would be doubles of the stuff Chris posted on Media Fire ,but there might be some new stuff.I know there is quite a whack of information in that link of Chris's.
Lawrence

 

[WesternSaw]

Credits

Wow! Jerry I know you enjoy this site for what it is,a great place for chainsaw discussion and don't get caught up in the points and what not,but I just noticed how many credits you have 3,688.Man that's impressive.Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
Lawrence

 

[kev1n]

Well I got a nice surprise when I finally purchased two Solo Rex's from a good fella back east.He was kind enough to included a bonus, which was an original Pioneer binder with IPL's and some service bulletins.Not sure how much of the literature would be doubles of the stuff Chris posted on Media Fire ,but there might be some new stuff.I know there is quite a whack of information in that link of Chris's.
Lawrence

Lawrence, two solo rex's is very impressive. Careful you don't get your arm ripped off starting one of those beasts. When I started messing with chainsaws I saw one of those and was impressed, it's on my bucket list. The pioneer binder is impressive as well.
I wish I could access that link in your signature, it tells me it's private these days. Do you need a secret password to access it.
Thanks Kevin

 

[pioneer saws]

Really good too see all these Pioneer saws, it seems Pioneer still has a strong following.

For anyone who is in need of maintenance manuals, I have in pdf format the following Pioneer IPL's :

HA
HB
HC
HM
JA
JB
JC
RA
400
450
550
600
600A
610
650
NU17
620 and Super 620
700 and 700G
750
850
1110
1130 and GT
1160 and GT
1420
1450
1520
1073
2073
1120
1150
1200 and 1200A
1410 and 1410A
1560
1750
2071
2200
2270
2400
2460
3071
3200
3270
Holiday II 970
Holiday II1072 with easy arc
Holiday 1100W (white)
Holiday 1100Y (yellow)
Holiday 1100G (white)
P10
P20
P25
P20 and 25 Final Edition
P26
P26E
P28 and P28S
P28E and P28ES
P38
P40
P41
P40 and P41S
P42
P42 R/G/S/H.P/W
P50 and P50s
P51
P52
P60
P61
Super 3270
Super 3270 SC
1770
1771
1850
Farmlite
Farmsaw 1 and 2
FM



Also in pdf format I have the following Shop Service Manuals:

400 and 400a
410
Nu17
450
550
600 and 600A
610
620 and super 620
650
700
750
1750
1770
1771
700G
850
1850
1870
1110
1100
1120
1130
1150
1160
Holiday 1100G
Holiday 1130GT
Holiday 1130GTA
1200
2200
2270
1410
1420
1450
1520
1560
2400
3200
2460
3270

Ive lots of other info on Pioneer so if your looking for something in particular send me a PM.
If you want copies of any of these IPL's or manuals please give me your email address in a PM and I'll be happy to send them out.

Cheers
Justin

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Cant get enough of the old pioneer stuff!

 

[pioneerguy600]

That`s very impressive, pioneer saws, I have all that stuff myself in paper/book form but having it in PDF so that it can be sent electronically is great help to others, thanks so much for posting and ,Welcome to the sight.