Pioneer chainsaws

[Lou]

When I read guard I'm thinking chain brake, yet I don't see one on either P61.
Explain what exactly the guard is, please.
Lou

 

[p61 western]

655 is all buttoned up and lookin/runnin pretty. Just keeping an eye out fir a couple parts.

No luck on the air filter yet? I need to find one as well.

 

[Yotaismygame]

It stands for guard. Guard full wrap western. Not really a very common saw.

I had no idea. I knew the western version wasn’t real common. I “refurbished” the muffler on mine. Real easy. Vinegar bath for a few days then put it underneath a wire cup wheel on my drill press follow up with high temp spray paint. The paint will flatten with use. Looks almost new in person.

 

[Cookie]

No luck on the air filter yet? I need to find one as well.

Think I’ll keep the one on there. It’s used, but cleaned up nice and it’s original. Would like a full wrap and a bar.

 

[p61 western]

When I read guard I'm thinking chain brake, yet I don't see one on either P61.
Explain what exactly the guard is, please.
Lou

They usually don't stay on the saws very long. It's basically a chain break handle, but no break parts in the clutch cover.

 

[Lou]

Thanks... My farmsaw has never had one (chain brake) from the day it was manufactured.
I'm not certain I see a need.
I sometimes do a plunge cut rather than a wedge, that's the only time that comes to mind where I felt a kickback. The kickback tells me I'm feeding the saw too fast.

 

[p61 western]

I had no idea. I knew the western version wasn’t real common. I “refurbished” the muffler on mine. Real easy. Vinegar bath for a few days then put it underneath a wire cup wheel on my drill press follow up with high temp spray paint. The paint will flatten with use. Looks almost new in person.

It's amazing what vinegar will do. It has really surprised me on a couple of axe heads.

 

[p61 western]

Thanks... My farmsaw has never had one (chain brake) from the day it was manufactured.
I'm not certain I see a need.
I sometimes do a plunge cut rather than a wedge, that's the only time that comes to mind where I felt a kickback. The kickback tells me I'm feeding the saw too fast.

So your farmsaw is still doing good I assume?

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

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[Lou]

I haven't fired her since I got the spark back and she ran (oven at 250 for 12 hours).
It's in the garage where it's dry.
I didn't have a spark problem until I attended a GTG and put her on the ground under a tarp.
Both of my Husqvarna saws do have chain brakes but they have never kicked back unless I'm doing a plunge cut too fast, and the bar, in that case, is trapped anyway.

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

The brake was pretty hosed up when I got it but basically just needed taken apart and put back together with everything in the right places. Works great now.

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[p61 western]

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Did you just get the p62?

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

I snagged it a few years ago. A rare find for my neck o' the woods (Ohio). Only some minor issues needed tightened up. Seems to run a little hot for whatever reason (aside from having a 28" hardnose bar) and I haven't taken the time to figured it out yet. Starts right up and runs great otherwise. Oils great, too. A seriously bad ass saw. Doesn't get run much, tho.

 

[p61 western]

I snagged it a few years ago. A rare find for my neck o' the woods (Ohio). Only some minor issues needed tightened up. Seems to run a little hot for whatever reason (aside from having a 28" hardnose bar) and I haven't taken the time to figured it out yet. Starts right up and runs great otherwise. Oils great, too. A seriously bad ass saw. Doesn't get run much, tho.

There was a cylinder update for them, but I forget the specifics of it now. it might have been something with the heat.

 

[Yotaismygame]

Well it's not all rainbows and butterflies with my recently acquired P41, p42? Ive got no spark. Did all the usuals to see if it was something simple, but no dice. Considering baking the coil. Someone mentioned the prestolite coil thats on it wasnt original. What are my options?

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

There was a cylinder update for them, but I forget the specifics of it now. it might have been something with the heat.

That's certainly where it gets warm in long cuts. Doesn't seem to be an issue unless I'm leaning on it in big wood for a while. Only noticed it after bucking and noodling some huge American Elm rounds a couple years ago. Made me nervous enough to shut it down and grab my 066 to finish. Fired right back up after cooling down for a bit. Piston still looks great, so no obvious damage done. Compression is still seriously wicked and there's no pulling it over without the decomp. I'm sure it would benefit from a sprocket nose bar. Came with a 3/8's rim setup from the previous owner and I'll probably keep it that way.

 

[p61 western]

Well it's not all rainbows and butterflies with my recently acquired P41, p42? Ive got no spark. Did all the usuals to see if it was something simple, but no dice. Considering baking the coil. Someone mentioned the prestolite coil thats on it wasnt original. What are my options?

Baking that coil might work. If not look for the phelon coil for it. You could try Rottmans for the coil.

 

[p61 western]

That's certainly where it gets warm in long cuts. Doesn't seem to be an issue unless I'm leaning on it in big wood for a while. Only noticed it after bucking and noodling some huge American Elm rounds a couple years ago. Made me nervous enough to shut it down and grab my 066 to finish. Fired right back up after cooling down for a bit. Piston still looks great, so no obvious damage done. Compression is still seriously wicked and there's no pulling it over without the decomp. I'm sure it would benefit from a sprocket nose bar. Came with a 3/8's rim setup from the previous owner and I'll probably keep it that way.

I think you can get the updated cylinder from Rottmans, but it has been awhile since I checked. I lucked out on mine it already has the updated cylinder. They sure are a pita to start for sure.

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

What distinguishes one from the other?

 

[p61 western]

What distinguishes one from the other?

You can tell by the way the top of the cylinder looks. I will find the article and post it here.