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That's why I have more than two saws
Thats fair enough...
Question about 353, 357XP and/or MS361?
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Thats fair enough...
IchWarriorMkII
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Well, I guess it depends on what sized of wood you are most often cutting. If the 361 can easily tackle your cutting needs with say a 20" bar and you keep a 24 or 28" bar for those infrequent really large trees, a smaller saw would make sense. A 353 with an 18" bar would be right behind the 361, and able to take over the felling job if the 361 blew up across the country side while you were out sawing.
But, if your 361 has a 24 or 28" bar and you regularly use it... I'd definatly opt for the big saw to run the 28" bars with ease, and swing the 361 with a shorter bar as a limbing saw, with the capability to run a long bar to back up your big saw when it grenades across the hillside when you are out cutting wood.
But thats just my thoughts on the subject. Im currently really wanting a 70cc saw that would be my 'big' saw... and with an 18 or 16" bar my 361 would eat my poor 353 for breakfast... making me think it would be an excellent down payment on a Jonsered 2171
But then again, I don't really need to drive 24" bars cutting juniper... but I will explore the realm of Colorado Douglas firs this summer... and I may want a bigger bar (and when I say bigger bar I really mean bigger saw... but my wallet doesn't hide when I saw bar :biggrinbounce2: )I have a Husky 351 (very similiar to 353) and just bought a 357XP. I couldn't believe the difference in POWER. The 357 XP cuts twice as fast, but is noticably heavier. Its not too heavy for limbing, but honestly I can limb for a longer time with the 351 before I get tired.
If I had to choose just 1 saw, I'd NEVER EVER consider the 351, it'd be the 357XP for damn sure!
If I had to choose just 1 saw, I'd NEVER EVER consider the 351, it'd be the 357XP for damn sure!
NYH1
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Thanks guys! My 021 runs great and I'll keep it as long as I can. It really is a nice little saw. I'll probably sell my 029 if I get a 357 or a 361. I guess I'll have to go handle both saws to see which one I like better. Is there much of a difference between the 357 and 361? And how much faster will they cut then a 353? Thanks again!
NYH1
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Thanks Deadman! :biggrinbounce2:
IchWarriorMkII
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a 357xp and a 361 are neck and neck.
I guess the 357xp cuts a little faster but the 361 has some more grunt to it in the midrange, thats what I piece together. Either saw would rock.
Over a 353, they scream through a cut... I could blow through a 20" cotton wood 2 times faster than my 353, almost 3 times faster with some cuts. To be fair, I only had semi chisel on my 353.
I guess the 357xp cuts a little faster but the 361 has some more grunt to it in the midrange, thats what I piece together. Either saw would rock.
Over a 353, they scream through a cut... I could blow through a 20" cotton wood 2 times faster than my 353, almost 3 times faster with some cuts. To be fair, I only had semi chisel on my 353.
SawTroll
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That's why I have more than two saws
Ditto!
I have the 353, 361 and 372.
My guess is that the 361 will be used for at least 75% of my cutting in the future, including felling, limbing, bucking and ripping........
...I wanted the 372 just because....
NYH1
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Stopped by a Stihl/Jonsered dealer this afternoon. I looked at the 361. The one they had on display had a 20 inch bar on it. I'll go with an 18 bar. I did handle the Johnny Red 2156. It seems a little lighter then the 361 but I don't think I can get used to the handle bar angle. The dealer seems to like the 2156. He talked it up pretty good. He did say that both were great saws. I also stopped by a Husky dealer but he didn't have any 357's in stock.
I really wanted to get a Husky next. I've never owned one before so I wanted to try one. Having said that the Stihl 361 has a lot going for it for me anyway's. I currently use a 021 and 029, (probably going to sell the 029). I'm used to the on/off/choke control and the inboard clutch on the Stihl's. I'm not to crazy about the toolless gas and oil caps though. I kind of like the older style caps. I've never handled a 357. The closest saw to it that I've handled was a 359. I liked the way it felt. Are they close to one another? The MS361 is definitely very NICE and could very well be my next saw! Thanks again!
I really wanted to get a Husky next. I've never owned one before so I wanted to try one. Having said that the Stihl 361 has a lot going for it for me anyway's. I currently use a 021 and 029, (probably going to sell the 029). I'm used to the on/off/choke control and the inboard clutch on the Stihl's. I'm not to crazy about the toolless gas and oil caps though. I kind of like the older style caps. I've never handled a 357. The closest saw to it that I've handled was a 359. I liked the way it felt. Are they close to one another? The MS361 is definitely very NICE and could very well be my next saw! Thanks again!
NYH1
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Yeah I know. No one in my area has any 357's right now. I have some time to wait though so it's no big deal. I definitely want to handle a 357! Thanks!
SawTroll
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That handlebar angle is my issue with the Jreds......
The 2156 is actually about halv a pound heavier than the 361, maybe the bar and chain on the 2156 was lighter than the 20" setup on that 361????
blis
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That handlebar angle is my issue with the Jreds......
thats also issue with stihls...
minkota1
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Stopped by a Stihl/Jonsered dealer this afternoon. I looked at the 361. The one they had on display had a 20 inch bar on it. I'll go with an 18 bar. I did handle the Johnny Red 2156. It seems a little lighter then the 361 but I don't think I can get used to the handle bar angle. The dealer seems to like the 2156. He talked it up pretty good. He did say that both were great saws. I also stopped by a Husky dealer but he didn't have any 357's in stock.
I really wanted to get a Husky next. I've never owned one before so I wanted to try one. Having said that the Stihl 361 has a lot going for it for me anyway's. I currently use a 021 and 029, (probably going to sell the 029). I'm used to the on/off/choke control and the inboard clutch on the Stihl's. I'm not to crazy about the toolless gas and oil caps though. I kind of like the older style caps. I've never handled a 357. The closest saw to it that I've handled was a 359. I liked the way it felt. Are they close to one another? The MS361 is definitely very NICE and could very well be my next saw! Thanks again!
The 359 is the same size and wieght as a 357, little less horsepower and a little better torque, probably little more user friendly unless you're real good at keeping it in the powerband. Great saws
SawTroll
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No, at least not with the 361, 026/260.
I believe the Husky angle is about 7 degrees, while the Stihl one usually is 5 degrees, I believe - that difference doesn't matter at all.
blis
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No, at least not with the 361, 026/260.
I believe the Husky angle is about 7 degrees, while the Stihl one usually is 5 degrees, I believe - that difference doesn't matter at all.
Oh well, it still doesnt feel right to me...
SawTroll
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The 359 is the same size and wieght as a 357, little less horsepower and a little better torque, probably little more user friendly unless you're real good at keeping it in the powerband. Great saws
As far as I know, the 357xp is marginally heavier than the 359, due to the smaller bore and "bells" on the crank (no-one will probably notice it).....:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
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the 353
I got a new 353 a couple of weeks ago, and am most impressed, its my first husky, and it fulfilled all my small saw needs. Its probably the most comfortable saw ive used, pretty much zero fatigue after a days cutting, and alot of fun to use.
However, it may be a little screamer, but for most of the cutting i do it sure aint fast. Limbing and soft woods, yum yum says the saw, but cutting 20" english oak into firewood size, expect to be there for a while.
But im used to using my 044 for pretty much all applications, so it all really depends on what size wood youre usually up against, the volume of wood you cut and how much spare moolah you have in your pockets.
isnt saw shopping fun, ooh the endless possibilities..
I got a new 353 a couple of weeks ago, and am most impressed, its my first husky, and it fulfilled all my small saw needs. Its probably the most comfortable saw ive used, pretty much zero fatigue after a days cutting, and alot of fun to use.
However, it may be a little screamer, but for most of the cutting i do it sure aint fast. Limbing and soft woods, yum yum says the saw, but cutting 20" english oak into firewood size, expect to be there for a while.
But im used to using my 044 for pretty much all applications, so it all really depends on what size wood youre usually up against, the volume of wood you cut and how much spare moolah you have in your pockets.
isnt saw shopping fun, ooh the endless possibilities..
blis
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Get it ported and no more worries :hmm3grin2orange:
SawTroll
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I surely didn't want to use a 353 in 20" oak - it is not meant for that use.
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had my reasons
only reason i used my new limbing saw for the meaty stuff is my 044 is in a box of parts at the moment
bearings are shot and i thought it made better sense to invest in a quality small saw (as i needed one anyway) for £350, than fix my bigger saw for about half that, and be unable to afford a limbing saw til next month.
i am begining to miss the aching arms and shaky hands of using a 044 all day clearing 6' cherry laurel, which is what ive been up to for most of the winter...
only reason i used my new limbing saw for the meaty stuff is my 044 is in a box of parts at the moment
bearings are shot and i thought it made better sense to invest in a quality small saw (as i needed one anyway) for £350, than fix my bigger saw for about half that, and be unable to afford a limbing saw til next month.i am begining to miss the aching arms and shaky hands of using a 044 all day clearing 6' cherry laurel, which is what ive been up to for most of the winter...
