Resurrect a neglected splitter

[user 19670]

If the fluid tank or source is higher then the pump the fluid leaks out the shaft to the coupling, just sitting there doing nothing it stops when the level in the tubing is at the same level as the shaft as seen in the picture, or if it where a tank till its is empty. Lower, than the pump just won't prime rather sucks air 90%, apparently it is draws some but not very much fluid.

I don't have a problem getting a new pump but somehow I don't think this is going to be the end. The beam has a slight twist at the front, it's only a 6" x 6" beam. One high pressure hose is showing signs of cracking. Not sure about engine, really won't know till a new or better pump is installed. The first 4 inches of the cylinder piston is pitted, probably left out to rust at one time or another.

I think at worse I would be into a new pump, and perhaps a Honda Horizontal Engine — 160cc with new coupling and inserts.

Comes to about $364. plus s&h

If I get lucky it will only be a pump and insert.

Will post when if I go with the pump and get it installed.

Now that it it primed I will try one more time before pulling it off the splitter.

Thanks for everyone help.

wbnca

NOW that you have finally gone over this beast and divulged its known problems to the rest of us I can say it should cost you more to change all the bad parts for new than to buy a new splitter.
I wouldn't spend money on it.
- engine (may need rebuilding or replacement)
- cylinder (needs re-building or replacement)
- hoses (need replacement)
- pump (needs replacement)
- valve bank (was jammed and now is free and may or may not need replacement)
And now the frame itself is bent and needs replacement.
Sigh, at least the tires hold air.

opcorn:

 

[wbnca]

NOW that you have finally gone over this beast and divulged its known problems to the rest of us I can say it should cost you more to change all the bad parts for new than to buy a new splitter.
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Sigh, at least the tires hold air.

opcorn:

Not quite.. I fixed the flat first so that I could get it from the pasture to the driveway, that's still working.. perhaps the only thing.

But I think that's it! :jawdrop:

I can also rent from Home Depot 5 miles from me $100 day use, for big stuff (22 ton) for logs I couldn't handle with a something smaller like a RYOBI which is looking awful attractive for $300. at Home Depot. If I was any good with a maul I would try that again too on occasions.

wbnca

 

[wbnca]

I found a tag on this splitter by acident.



I decided I'm not going to put any more time and effort into this splitter, it's got to many things going against it.

I picked up a RYOBI from Home Depot to get much of the small stuff recently cut. Seems to meet my homeowner needs and requirements. If it goes bad there just down the road.


Thanks again..

wbnca

 

[user 19670]

I found a tag on this splitter by acident.



I decided I'm not going to put any more time and effort into this splitter, it's got to many things going against it.

I picked up a RYOBI from Home Depot to get much of the small stuff recently cut. Seems to meet my homeowner needs and requirements. If it goes bad there just down the road.


Thanks again..

wbnca

:monkey:
I just don't know WHAT to believe about all this.

 

[wbnca]

:monkey:
I just don't know WHAT to believe about all this.

Me either!

Against my better judgement, I installed a new 11 gpm pump. I just had to find out for myself.

Since replacing the pump everything else seems to be coming together. I primed pump manually, then started it up. Stalled shortly after either because it ran out of gas or got low on oil when filling the cylinder. I had to add an additional 1 1/2 gallons of ATF before we got all the air out and pressure at full extends or retracts (1500 psi). Note, I didn't attempt to readjust the valve assembly yet that I had backed off 1 full tun. Now I see the importance of the pressure gage in the loop and how gage comes in to play!

Now the piston moved smooth in and out 24" with a travel time of 10 seconds each way. I put a small 8" dia. x 16" len green oak in for my first load test. It split it without any pressure indication that was noticeable. Like cutting butter.

I still have a small leak at the output 1/2 NPTF fitting of the pump. No other leaks as yet. I used teflon tape the first time, not good, pump instructions say not to use it. I am using a pipe dope from Permatex now may need a little more or didn't cure enough before I connected it.

The motor runs better but the long gas line I am using is a problem I need to find another line that will pass through the middle of the engine as the old one did. Also need a gas filter in-line as well.

Will see next week what develops when I put some serious loads on this splitter once I get the engine more or less at its best.

For the few dollars invested so far thanks to everyone input his has been a tremendous learning experience, and your feed backs have not been in vein.

I am still pleased with the Ryobi for what it is and understand it's limitations but also see what it's so widely excepted for homeowners with limited splitting needs.

Thanks again.

wbnca

 

[wbnca]

Here's a few pictures ...

 

[cabinman]

postings

Here's a few pictures ...

WBNCA,..Reread posts #7, #38 and #43

 

[wbnca]

WBNCA,..Reread posts #7, #38 and #43

I reread your posts sorry I didn't respond specifically to your posts at the time, I followed up to your post when I connected a input hose filled with oil above the level of the pump in which the oil level went to the same level as pump shaft seal then stopped leaking. I tried a drill after that which didn't work, finally I tore the pump down.

As suggested pulling the engine through (plug out) with a good pump should yield oil from the output, all I got was bubbles.

My doubts were not that the pump needed replacing but rather it would only lead to further discovery of major problems. I am glad now I changed my mind and tried the pump. Am still not out of the wood completely.

wbnca