Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[muddstopper]

Got my wood bucked today and ready for splitting. My grandson is 19 and had never ran a chainsaw, but he is really good at playing Madden. Anyways, I got him out and told him today you are going to learn to run a saw. I handed him my 55 and showed him how to crank it. We went over a few safety items and I got him started sawing some wood. I satyed with him for a while, stopping him from time to time just to point out a few things. Now all this sawing was pretty straight forward. I would take the tractor and lift the logs on top of bucked rounds so it was at a good height to walk up to and not have to worry about hitting the ground. Once the log was bucked, I would set another one up and let him have at it. After he had bucked about half a cord or so, I picked up another saw and started doing a little bucking myself. while cutting, I heard his saw change tune, I knew what had happened right off. He had stuck the saw in the dirt. I walked over and stopped him and asked if he knew what he had done, no, so I pointed at the ground and showed him the nice little ditch he had just dug with the saw. It was time for a break so I told him load up the saw and lets head to the house for a drink of water. We both where sweating pretty good. After letting the bar cool down I told him now its time to learn to file a saw. I went ahead and took the sthil 2in1 file and sharpened one side of the chain, explaining the angle, rakers height and chain tensioning. Then I turned the saw around and told him now you sharpen this side. He would file and I would correct his angles and he would file another tooth. By the time he went all the way around the chain, He had pretty much quit rocking the chain as he filed and he was paying more attention to the filing marks on the 2in1. I went ahead and touched up the teeth he had filed, just to even things up and we went back to bucking wood. I dont know if it was because I made him sharpen the saw, or some other reason, but he didnt hit the ground a single time after that. He also refused to cut from the bottom up on logs that would pinch the bar. We will work on that. We got everything bucked up and ready to split. His next day off we are going to have a splitting party.

 

[Cowboy254]

Do yourself a favor and go get Stihl chain for that husky.

Then do yourself another favour and go get a Stihl to go with the chain.

 

[LondonNeil]

Since Stihl don't seem to use 0.058 gauge, (and I think stihl 20" bar is a different DL count?) I didn't find a loop readily available. I'm sure the local dealer could get one, or make one, but going on what I'd read Oregon seems decent chain and at half the price I thought well worth it. I hadn't realised the LPX/powercut is semi low kick back. I'm assuming (hoping) since the hump is still well down on the raker it will cut fine? maybe bore uts would be impossible, but then that doesn't matter foe me. Am I mistaken on its cutting ability? or are you down on Oregon for some other reason

Other than that and on the plus side, despite you all swearing that cutter width doesn't vary with gauge, I'm sure these cutters are a darn sight narrower than on stihl RS 0.063


I'll have to get it side by side with the stihl rs chain from the 038, but I'm sure that is wider.

 

[LondonNeil]

Then do yourself another favour and go get a Stihl to go with the chain.

before you go all anti Swedish saws, just remember my first saw is a German creamcicle, and my german saws outnumber my swedish....although one is a pile of components on th garage floor at the moment

 

[Cowboy254]

before you go all anti Swedish saws, just remember my first saw is a German creamcicle, and my german saws outnumber my swedish....although one is a pile of components on th garage floor at the moment

I just worry that you are drifting from the true path of righteousness.

 

[LondonNeil]

oh I think I am! I'm desperate to get a chance to run the thing! want to bury the bar in a big piece of dry and hard as concrete quince, bury the dogs and lean on it...see just how torquey the little monster is

 

[James Miller]

Hmm, did i make a rookie error?
New saw meant I needed some new spare chains. Amazon had Oregon PowerCut 73DLXLP072, full chisel 3/8 x 0.058" , for a bargain price of £13.11, just right I thought for for the 20" Oregon bar on the 365. For comparison a 20" 72DL loop of 3/8 x 0.063" Stihl RS would be twice that, cheapest.

Now its arrived I've realised its semi low kick back stuff, with a largish bump on the top of the drive link
View attachment 673027

Question is, does this stuff still cut well?

That chain will cut fine. Guys that ***** about safety chain have to much time on there hands. Only real advantage iv found with non safety chain is it's easier to bore cut with might be a little faster but not worth buying more chains just to say you have non safety chain. Use up that chain then get something else if you don't like it.

 

[LondonNeil]

Where's @Philbert ? I'm not posting in the chains section....they can be a wild bunch there!

 

[Ryan'smilling]

Since Stihl don't seem to use 0.058 gauge, (and I think stihl 20" bar is a different DL count?) I didn't find a loop readily available. I'm sure the local dealer could get one, or make one, but going on what I'd read Oregon seems decent chain and at half the price I thought well worth it. I hadn't realised the LPX/powercut is semi low kick back. I'm assuming (hoping) since the hump is still well down on the raker it will cut fine? maybe bore uts would be impossible, but then that doesn't matter foe me. Am I mistaken on its cutting ability? or are you down on Oregon for some other reason

Other than that and on the plus side, despite you all swearing that cutter width doesn't vary with gauge, I'm sure these cutters are a darn sight narrower than on stihl RS 0.063
View attachment 673028

I'll have to get it side by side with the stihl rs chain from the 038, but I'm sure that is wider.

Lpx isn't reduced kickback chain. I know it looks like it, and it's not the same simple design as the depth gauge on RS, but it is still good chain. I run a lot of LPX and I have zero problems with it. I use a dremel to lower rakers though.

 

[LondonNeil]

TBH james, if I don't like it I'd just take the bumps off with the bench grinder.

 

[LondonNeil]

cheers Ryan. I thought I saw somewhere it is 'lower' kickback, not full on safety. It definitely looks like the hump would hide the cutter as it traversed around the top of the nose, but I could be mistaken. Given the hump is hidden below the raker when the chain is straight, I can't see why it would cut any slower when bucking, which is all i do.

 

[James Miller]

Starting on row two from the oak scrounge. Headed back tomorrow with my cousin and a hydro to do the last of the big rounds. Should about finish off that row.

 

[LondonNeil]

That looks like a high security wood shed James!

 

[Ryan'smilling]

cheers Ryan. I thought I saw somewhere it is 'lower' kickback, not full on safety. It definitely looks like the hump would hide the cutter as it traversed around the top of the nose, but I could be mistaken. Given the hump is hidden below the raker when the chain is straight, I can't see why it would cut any slower when bucking, which is all i do.

Unless I'm mistaken, lpx was their standard full chisel chain. Like that's the most regular chain you could get from Oregon. I know they make EXL now, which is the new stuff. Don't know what that looks like.

I went through this with left coast supplies because I ordered it and thought they sent safety chain by mistake.

Left coast supplies is an awesome place to buy chain, by the way. If anyone is in the market.

 

[turnkey4099]

That chain will cut fine. Guys that ***** about safety chain have to much time on there hands. Only real advantage iv found with non safety chain is it's easier to bore cut with might be a little faster but not worth buying more chains just to say you have non safety chain. Use up that chain then get something else if you don't like it.

Yep. As long as one is cutting on the 'flat' part of the bar, either top or bottom, the safety bumps don't come into play.

 

[Deleted member 149229]

Unless I'm mistaken, lpx was their standard full chisel chain. Like that's the most regular chain you could get from Oregon. I know they make EXL now, which is the new stuff. Don't know what that looks like.

I went through this with left coast supplies because I ordered it and thought they sent safety chain by mistake.

Left coast supplies is an awesome place to buy chain, by the way. If anyone is in the market.

You win the cigar. LPX is full chisel, BPX is semi.

 

[James Miller]

Its just the old chicken pens. No more chickens so I just repurposed.

 

[dancan]

I've got 6 lawns today and 3 are over an acre. One of the big ones hasn't paid me for last week yet, so I might not do his.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-farming-equ...er/1377288897?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

7 Mph mowing speed , 6.4 acres an hour
I'd be done mine and my neighbors lawn in about 2 minutes including startup and parking the machine lol

Neil , that chain will work just fine but you shoulda bought a Sti.. Lol

 

[pdqdl]

Hmm, did i make a rookie error?
New saw meant I needed some new spare chains. Amazon had Oregon PowerCut 73DLXLP072, full chisel 3/8 x 0.058" , for a bargain price of £13.11, just right I thought for for the 20" Oregon bar on the 365. For comparison a 20" 72DL loop of 3/8 x 0.063" Stihl RS would be twice that, cheapest.

Now its arrived I've realised its semi low kick back stuff, with a largish bump on the top of the drive link
View attachment 673027

Question is, does this stuff still cut well?

You'll be just fine. Nothing there that cannot be fixed with a file. (or a grinder, as mentioned previously)

Anti-kickback chain doesn't really that make much difference until you go to using the tip, anyway. Of all the various safety chain designs, those are about the least offensive.

 

[pdqdl]

I eat just about anything but that is a little freaky with the eyes and teeth still intact lol. The almost empty glass of whiskey on the top left probably helps one gain the courage to start eating.

Being raised up in the sticks, the first time I saw soft shell crab on the menu in Florida I didn't know what to think. After 4 beers I tried it and loved it.

Yep. I agree. It's a kinda freaky way to serve squirrel.

Sadly, that was the only picture of a squirrel dinner I could find, especially with any beans on the plate. My preference would be to have that with pinto beans instead of green ones.