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Yeah I run square ground on my 36" bar and have a few loops for the 24" bar. .....
I also got the high output oiler in the mail today...... View attachment 992644
Stupid question. What's square filing?
And I've heard others talk about high output oilers before. Sometimes my Stihl 038's bar gets hot and only uses a little more than half a tank of oil per tank of gas. Anyone know if they make one for my model? It's opened all the way.
 
Upgrading my equipment with my latest scrounge. Not wood, but a two-wheeled wheel barrow. Plastic tub (I hate plastic) is cracked beyond use, ....
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Yesterday I started working on my 'project' barrow and got rid of the old tub. after oiling the bolts and trying to wrench them off I turned to my angle grinder. Cut off wheel at the lowest angle from the inside cut through the plastic and then the bolts. Only problem is I went too deep on the braces. You guys would say, just get out you Mig welder and weld it back together. None available. So I thought I'd just JB Weld a 3/4" washer to the inside and clamp it together with a bolt. If that doesn't work, I can always cut off the flanges and sleeve the tubing with 1"? conduit which has the ends smashed flat. Jury rigged.
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Oh ok roger that, so similar to or a little more than a 360 I'm gonna guess?
It has a good bit more than the MS362CM I traded in. It's closer to the 460 than the 026. In less than 20" wood I'd say it would be close to equal to the the 460 with the chains being equal due to the higher rpm.
 
It has a good bit more than the MS362CM I traded in. It's closer to the 460 than the 026. In less than 20" wood I'd say it would be close to equal to the the 460 with the chains being equal due to the higher rpm.
I want to test this after the 400 is broken in. I'll do some timed cuts.
 
......Lost my favorite hatchet (sentimental value) that I mark logs with recently. Laid it on top of my tail gate and took off. Two miles to home and I noticed it missing. Had a tape measure which I hate setting on top along side of it and it was still there. Why couldn't it fallen off instead. When back 30 minutes later and gone. Someone must have picked it up.
I'd be the first to say I'm anal. I really hated loosing this hatchet which belonged to an elderly gentleman whom I respected when I was a kid. When he died, I helped his widow set up a garage sale and I bought this off of her. Now anytime I use it I remember him. Like other tools I've collected from other people over the years. This one stays in my cab and I grab it to mark firewood lengths on a log before bucking.
Back to my analness (lol). I couldn't let it rest so I put up two signs yesterday along the road on which I lost it. Normally I don't answer my phone because 99% of my calls are spam, but today I saw the area code and picked up. It was a young guy who said he had found it and I could pick it up! I went over immediately and tried to give him some money for it, but he wouldn't take any. I was ecstatic. No monetary value it it. But it's nice to have it back. I'll be more careful next time.
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Turns out he and his business partner, who saw the sign, ran a small woodworking business. He had a sawmill, too. Lot of common interests, but I didn't want to take up all his time.
 
Stupid question. What's square filing?
And I've heard others talk about high output oilers before. Sometimes my Stihl 038's bar gets hot and only uses a little more than half a tank of oil per tank of gas. Anyone know if they make one for my model? It's opened all the way.
☝️Square filing is how Norwegian's file a chain, because we are square heads! 😉
 
What is the displacement on a Husky 346? I slapped a 16" on my 660 a couple times. But that was with .50 gage 3/8. I'd like to try .325 on it just to satisfy my curiosity on the power gain and chain speed. I'd be werie and suspect to parting the chain though! 😬 I'm not even sure anyone makes a .325 sprocket that will fit the drum on a 660? Unless it's a totally custom made special order sprocket or drum! I've parted 32" loops before of .63 gage 3/8 full skip! That was years ago on one of my 066's
Any standard sized 325 sprocket will fit your 660, it's a normal size, nothing special.
I don't think you will see any gain at all though. Once you get over 4hp the gains from running smaller chain for bucking disappear pretty quick. If you are doing work in someone's yard, a smaller chain can be nice as it makes less mess. That's one of the reasons I like running my little baby saws with 3/8lp when I'm working on nicer properties, it's a lot easier/less time consuming to blow it into the grass vs off of the grass with the backpack blower.
Those big ribbons just ain't gonna work ;).
 
@Kodiak Kid, been a while since I've ran an 044, but I will tell you it's way lighter, and I would suspect cuts the same or faster. Factory ratings seem to be very close hp wise. I'm not really a stihl guy, and it cuts with or a tad faster then my 562xp husqy. It's really hard to give an honest opinion on it with such few tanks through it. Steve said about 8 tanks and they wake up more. I know it's fast with a 20" on it.

A 346xp is 47 or 50cc. Depending on edition. I have an oe with a ne top end on it.
I have no idea why you would want to run such a short bar on a 660. Especially in .325 pitch. Thats just asking for issues, and imo a waste of time, when nearly any smaller saw will run the same in the same wood. Never got the big saw little bar thing or the little saw huge bar thing.
@djg james square chisel is another type of chain grind, where instead of a round chisel you sharpen your cutters with a square, goofey, or tri square file. It's a very efficient cutter but dulls quickly in dirty wood. It takes considerable skill to file it by hand and square grinders are expensive and used are rare as hens teeth. Now don't let me dissuade you from getting some, even in crap stock form it's way faster then any round grind out there.
 
Any standard sized 325 sprocket will fit your 660, it's a normal size, nothing special.
I don't think you will see any gain at all though. Once you get over 4hp the gains from running smaller chain for bucking disappear pretty quick. If you are doing work in someone's yard, a smaller chain can be nice as it makes less mess. That's one of the reasons I like running my little baby saws with 3/8lp when I'm working on nicer properties, it's a lot easier/less time consuming to blow it into the grass vs off of the grass with the backpack blower.
Those big ribbons just ain't gonna work
Negative. A standard .325 sprocket won't fit a 3/8 drum. They both have different size spline shafts and I would think that being as a .325 pitch chian cuts a bit of a narrower kerf. A 90cc power head would pull it a little faster. Than a 3/8 pitch.

☝️I could be wrong about chian speed in the wood between the two chains with the same grind, but If you have a .325 sprocket that will fit a 660 drum I'd like to see a picture and know where to get one! I've been looking for one for a while now. However, maybe I haven't been looking hard enough!IMG_20220601_154252045.jpg
 
Todays scrounge most of it free . I did pay for the lathe the chaps and the neon sign . Not sure what the gas tank is for but it’s new . The two metal cans are full . The family didn’t want anything to do with old gas . They weren’t leaking so I took them turns out one had diesel in it the other kerosene no rust at all inside the tank and it appeared to be fresh fuel 9CDE2F96-0D8B-49EE-B5A0-5145AD21678D.jpegDE18D7EA-7A69-4BB0-85B7-8E07D9B339FA.jpeg052AC343-D587-46CA-AF05-4FBFE850B946.jpegB9F8F4D7-7295-496E-843D-679472186D1E.jpegA4D27609-2F2D-4D6B-A7D6-F292EC3F96B0.jpeg7DBBBFF8-E8DC-4F6F-BF99-E16B8172EE62.jpegCE505E51-2412-4909-986E-A39306862195.jpegD9E9C313-03F8-4666-BC70-E9DB8F8946EF.jpeg2B4D6131-7FB6-4EBA-B3E9-A1A8D3A8C7EE.jpeg
 
Oh ok roger that, so similar to or a little more than a 360 I'm gonna guess?
I'm 99% sure the 400 will be the death of the ms362.(intended by stihl) Well I personally think (so far) if it holds up at all it will be the go to 60/70cc saw. And believe me when I say I'm biased with my 60/70cc saws. I've never cared for a 50cc saw. Too heavy and gut less and a 70cc was pretty much the same way compared to a 90cc saw. The 400 is nearly a full pound lighter then any of my 60cc husqys, and I'm pretty sure it will go neck and neck with any of the old guard 70cc saws. Don't think it will hang with a ms 462 or a 572xp. But we'll see.
 
@Kodiak Kid, been a while since I've ran an 044, but I will tell you it's way lighter, and I would suspect cuts the same or faster. Factory ratings seem to be very close hp wise. I'm not really a stihl guy, and it cuts with or a tad faster then my 562xp husqy. It's really hard to give an honest opinion on it with such few tanks through it. Steve said about 8 tanks and they wake up more. I know it's fast with a 20" on it.

A 346xp is 47 or 50cc. Depending on edition. I have an oe with a ne top end on it.
I have no idea why you would want to run such a short bar on a 660. Especially in .325 pitch. Thats just asking for issues, and imo a waste of time, when nearly any smaller saw will run the same in the same wood. Never got the big saw little bar thing or the little saw huge bar thing.
@djg james square chisel is another type of chain grind, where instead of a round chisel you sharpen your cutters with a square, goofey, or tri square file. It's a very efficient cutter but dulls quickly in dirty wood. It takes considerable skill to file it by hand and square grinders are expensive and used are rare as hens teeth. Now don't let me dissuade you from getting some, even in crap stock form it's way faster then any round grind out there.
Just to play around and experiment that's all. I'm not looking to run one for any length of time. I've ripped five and six inch logs in half for coral rungs with my 660 running a 50. Gage 16" a 3/8 and it ripped those logs in half with the quickness! No over rev at all if you know how to keep a proper load on the saw. I've ripped wood with a 20" and 24" on a 660 as well☝️ not even close to as fast as the 16"
 
It's off a k series kohler with a engine mounted tank. I would assume it's been repainted, as they were not painted orange from factory in any tractor that I can recall.
 
I'm 99% sure the 400 will be the death of the ms362.(intended by stihl) Well I personally think (so far) if it holds up at all it will be the go to 60/70cc saw. And believe me when I say I'm biased with my 60/70cc saws. I've never cared for a 50cc saw. Too heavy and gut less and a 70cc was pretty much the same way compared to a 90cc saw. The 400 is nearly a full pound lighter then any of my 60cc husqys, and I'm pretty sure it will go neck and neck with any of the old guard 70cc saws. Don't think it will hang with a ms 462 or a 572xp. But we'll see.
Keep me posted on that if you would please. I've been looking at the 400 myself!
 

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