Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[LondonNeil]

I always thought Ultra was the stuff developed to run in 4-mix products to combat carbon buildup on the valves? Either way, I quit using it in my Kombi and it seems to be just fine with whatever I dump in it mixed at 50-1.

It is for 4 mix and stihl say not for use in 2 mix, which is why I have super not ultra as my first saw, the ms180 is a 2 mix.
The super seems fine, iirc it matches the ultra for the jaso specs but it's only semi synthetic. I got XP when I got my 365 and now I've learnt that is highly rated by Steve's nephew I'd stick with it, and it is fully synthetic like the ultra. I'm not expert but suspect the jaso spec doesn't reveal why the full synthetic oils do have an advantage.
For the time being I run 50:50 Stihl super: XP at 40:1 to use the super up. Then it'll be neat XP at 40;1

 

[Lee192233]

According to Stihl...
I buy the 6 pack just to double my warranty.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I lived in Petersburg, Ak. for a couple years when I was in the Coast Guard, spent my share of time getting beat to pulp in The Gulf of Alaska during Black Cod and Halibut openers. Had big ambitions of going to Kodiak, but as fate would have it I ended up on an ice breaker in the Great Lakes, fell head over heels for a Polak girl and my wandering days came to an end.

Good story!

 

[chipper1]

Interesting, I've never used ultra myself, just because I've over half a bottle of super and a little more of xp left, but in intrigued why you don't like ultra. Stihl products normally work

The guys pretty much summed it up; it's nasty smelling, and it carbons up( at least mixed 40:1).

 

[chipper1]

Good story!

I'm sure he's got more, most truck drivers do.
So I've heard lol

 

[JustPlainJeff]

That's a nice, clean looking stack of wood!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

To be honest I'm sceptical about mixing 40:1. I've always mixed 50:1 and never once had a problem in 25+ years of running pro saws hard.

Here's a couple pics of plugs out of a couple saws running MOTOREX Cross Power 2T mixed with AV gas at 50:1
I'm open to options, advice, and or info. So tell me what do you guys think?

This is the plug out of my Pro modified 661. The original plug and the saw is about one year old.


The plug out of my stock 660, I couldn't tell you when I replaced it, but it's been a while! Years!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Being as I also run 50:1 in my dirt bike. I have the advantage of running saw gas in my bike and bike gas in my saws!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Made a little more progress on the wood pileView attachment 993515Has been cool and rainy almost every weekend, fire going again today View attachment 993516Miss the sunshine but thankful it’s not hot and dry. Supposed to be 80* next weekend. Oh and I use red armor at 40:1 with e free 87, lol.

There's no saw chain. Like company saw chain, and there's no gas, like company gas! It's always the cheapest and the best!

 

[chipper1]

To be honest I'm sceptical about mixing 40:1. I've always mixed 50:1 and never once had a problem in 25+ years of running pro saws hard.

Here's a couple pics of plugs out of a couple saws running MOTOREX Cross Power 2T mixed with AV gas at 50:1
I'm open to options, advice, and or info. So tell me what do you guys think?

This is the plug out of my Pro modified 661. The original plug and the saw is about one year old.
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The plug out of my stock 660, I couldn't tell you when I replaced it, but it's been a while! Years!
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Keep doing what works for you .

 

[chipper1]

There's no saw chain. Like company saw chain, and there's no gas, like company gas! It's always the cheapest and the best!

I understand, but I disagree, sometimes cheapest up front isn't cheaper in the end .

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I understand, but I disagree, sometimes cheapest up front isn't cheaper in the end .

Roger! I was joking around more than anything.

 

[chipper1]

Roger! I was joking around more than anything.

I figured.
I've experimented and experienced cheap, and while sometimes it's been all I could do, I'm glad I currently have other choices .

 

[turnkey4099]

Wow and still standing, that tree must be straight as an arrow.
Is that a triple soft dutchman?

That is the 'reverse flange triple soft duchman' version. Don't ask how I know.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

When you can't quite figure out where the lean is on that tree your about to cut.
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Haven't seen anyone use a three step triple soft in a long long time! He must come from the Old School!

 

[WoodAbuser]

Being as I also run 50:1 in my dirt bike. I have the advantage of running saw gas in my bike and bike gas in my saws! View attachment 993586View attachment 993587

009 or 011? I luv mine. 011avt was my first saw.

 

[Logger nate]

There's no saw chain. Like company saw chain, and there's no gas, like company gas! It's always the cheapest and the best!

Actually my boss does provide chain, gas, and oil for me. He wouldn’t care if I used it for personal use but I try not too, I know you were mostly joking.
I lived in Seward for 11 years . Great place but glad I live in Idaho now. Saw most of interior and south east Alaska but never made it to Kodiak. Worked for Afognak logging (they were out of logging at that time) and Shoreside Petroleum and did tree removal on the sideMy brother lives in Eagle River Personally I think 50:1 is fine also, this is piston picture of a ported 064 I bought new in the mid 90’s after 20 years of use (1 year full time, rest part time) ran on mostly non synthetic oil at 50:1. I do think 40:1 can extend saw life, especially the newer strato saws though.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

009! I can't believe the power in these top pistol grip saws! Way more power than either of my MS170's! I'm not a topper or an arborist so I don't use it for climbing at all. Just for clearing trails in the Spring for my ridding buddies and I. The throttle grip doesn't stick up as high as a throttle grip on a conventional small saw when sitting on the bike in the saw rack!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Actually my boss does provide chain, gas, and oil for me. He wouldn’t care if I used it for personal use but I try not too, I know you were mostly joking.
I lived in Seward for 11 years . Great place but glad I live in Idaho now. Saw most of interior and south east Alaska but never made it to Kodiak. Worked for Afognak logging (they were out of logging at that time) and Shoreside Petroleum and did tree removal on the sideView attachment 993604My brother lives in Eagle River View attachment 993605Personally I think 50:1 is fine also, this is piston picture of a ported 064 I bought new in the mid 90’s after 20 years of use (1 year full time, rest part time) ran on mostly non synthetic oil at 50:1.View attachment 993603 I do think 40:1 can extend saw life, especially the newer strato saws though.

Thanks for the opinion and pics! Solid info for sure!

That topping picture is some bad ass s**t and for men only! Good on ya!

I cut timber on Afognak for both Ben Thomas and White Stone for a lot of years, and also for White Stone in South East out of Hoona AK.
Lots of big timber and steep ground in SE Alaska!! As you probably already well know.

Always wanted to get into climbing but never did. I've done it, but only a hand full of times and pretty basic simple stuff.

Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

 

[WoodAbuser]

009! I can't believe the power in these top pistol grip saws! Way more power than either of my MS170's! I'm not a topper or an arborist so I don't use it for climbing at all. Just for clearing trails in the Spring for my ridding buddies and I. The throttle grip doesn't stick up as high as a throttle grip on a conventional small saw when sitting on the bike in the saw rack!

Yeah they don't make em like that anymore. That series had Reed valves so they are high torque instead of high rpm.