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I will if they are in my garden. I used to try to be a sportsman about hunting, but gave that up when the pest started eating me out of house and home. Everybody around me has a deer feeder out and none of them grow a garden. They draw them in and I take them out.
We've got both here, a feeder, and a garden. But, I don't hunt on this property. My wife would **** if I shot Bambi in front of her. So, I hunt at our other house in WI, about 40 minutes away. But this is our garden. It didn't do crap this year anyway, but the deer still can't get to it.

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Fox I still put in the category of shoot on sight here. I have chickens and they are not going to be on the dinner plate for a fox. Fox, coyote, coon, and mink are all gone if I see them.
Well ok but in over 100 years of myself, my family and my beautiful ex-wifes family none of us have ever had Fox take a chicken. Mink, Coon , and Skunk yes but not a Fox. A ole spurred rooster is a match for most
 
Well ok but in over 100 years of myself, my family and my beautiful ex-wifes family none of us have ever had Fox take a chicken. Mink, Coon , and Skunk yes but not a Fox. A ole spurred rooster is a match for most
You've never heard the saying the fox in the hen house. They are awful their sneaky and attack at all hours of the day. My buddy up in Ontario has had countless chickens killed by them. Roosters will try their hardest but it's just going to prolong the inevitable that unless you get there with a 12 gauge a rooster is only going to slow a fox down not stop it. If I didn't have chickens I'd let them be. But once they know the chickens are there they are crafty and they will keep trying to find ways to circumvent your fortification until they find a way in. It's best to just eliminate the problem before they find a way in.
 
You were probably going over 35, you gotta slow it down or you'll have a heat stroke!
I'd have a few over the years. The first one was in the 80s. I was 19 in my prime, strong and fit working on a GEO soil testing in a swamp in near Tobor City N.C. in August. I blacked out and fell on the ground out for 3 or 5 mins. said my coworker and when I came back I felt like I was beat w a baseball bat over my body. Took 2 weeks for me to get better, I'd just broke down at noon and was useless in the heat. I had another 20 some yrs ago while I was surveying/ checking grade on the bottom of a new pond at a landfill. There was about 8" of water in the basin and it was hot. I dropped a stake and I went to pick it up and got dizzy and about blacked out. I was lucky because I was working by myself w a robot and I thought If I did a face plant in water I my be dead.....I came back to the office early that afternoon and my boss and friend since high school was not happy. I told him I'm leaving next week and I never came back. I'll be 58 in October.
I know how ya feel! I've had a couple myself! Once in California and believe it or not. Once right here in Alaska! Summer time of course. I blacked out for a few minutes both times. I was completely blind there for a bit! I also felt very dizzy and noxious! It scared the crap out of me both times! Luckily both times I had a different friend with me, and both times each one helped keep me relaxed best they could and talk to me until the experience was over. I was not fun I'll tell ya! No, I don't do well in heat at all!!!👎
 
I'm not sure about the laws in your state, but in Alaska. The land owner is obligated to fence off their property from wildlife should the wildlife present a problem. Same with live stock. For example: A private property owner is obligated to build fence to keep free range cattle off their property. The Rancher is not.
I do not believe in Illinois we have any wildlife fencing laws. I will assure anyone we do have livestock fencing laws and there are disputes because the C.B.F. farmers want to tear out fence. A CBF is a corn , beans and and Florida farmer. The other issue is folks buying up land and putting houses on it. I pasture cattle 15 feet from a garage of a neighbor that tore out the fence. He was wrong and the fence went back in.

Good fences make good neighbors
 
So glad I have cool neighbors...one neighbor has a wire fence up along the property boundary, but only because they have dogs. The fence on the other property boundary got knocked down by windfall a couple winters back. My neighbor on that side doesn't care if the fence ever goes back up and neither do I. We end up BS'ing at each other's houses all the time, so a downed fence just makes it more convenient lol.
 
Well we do not have any porcupines but if we did I would shoot them as they are heck on dumb dogs that want to play.

As for beavers they can be a problem. Especially in our drainage ditches. I farm behind the Mississippi levee and we rely on a system of man made drainage ditches for field time to run excess water into. You cannot allow beavers to dam them up or the outlet of your tile will be under water making it ineffective. Other than that on the river they are fine and in some natural streams their dams build habitat. Of course they must be kept in check though and trapping does that.

Coyotes are a kill on site no questions asked. Groundhogs pretty much the same.

We get an occasional lost black bear that travels through and harms nothing.

Coons are fine and are kept in check through trapping. This will be an interesting fall with coons as my neighbor's wife feeds the critters dog food and LOTS of it. It is not uncommon to have 20-30 coons around her back porch. Her husband hates them but loves her more. He has said kill everyone just do not tell her.

Fox and rabbits are a hot button for me. In this area I will lose a lot of respect for anyone who kills a fox. They harm nothing and the coyotes have killed them off to the point I am not sure I have seen one in at least 10 years or more. I see an occasional rabbit but they are rare due to coyotes

Of course we do not have moose. Somehow a elk made it through here which is completely odd as who knows where it came from.

We have a few mountain lion/cougars and the DNR used to say shoot on site but now teh liberals convinced them to scale that back. The game warden who is a personal friend shot one a few years back and has always told me to kill on site. Thankfully all I have seen is pictures of dead ones. She will never ticket me for doing what needs done.

How about two of the animals that are many times associated with your state...wolves and gophers?
Wolves are a major problem but are protected. The vast majority of MN has no gophers. I believe they prefer grasslands.
 
A few years back we had a ton of gray foxes. They were very fun to watch and would get along well with other wildlife. They would share the deer feeder with deer, coons, and even the neighbors cat. The sole red fox would chase them out. Then all of a sudden all the grays were gone and we started to get a lot of red foxes. There was a couple of pairs of reds around and they were very tame. I used to throw my duck carcasses to them after I was done cleaning them and they would haul the rest away before eating them. It was great because I didn’t have to find a spot to dump them and it was fun to watch the fox. Someone must’ve called a trapper because all of a sudden all the foxes were gone. I thought about getting chickens out here but I know the red foxes are murder on them. I’ve also thought about getting ducks because I live on a lake but heard that you need to give them fresh water all winter too which turns into a giant icy mess.
 
You've never heard the saying the fox in the hen house. They are awful their sneaky and attack at all hours of the day. My buddy up in Ontario has had countless chickens killed by them. Roosters will try their hardest but it's just going to prolong the inevitable that unless you get there with a 12 gauge a rooster is only going to slow a fox down not stop it. If I didn't have chickens I'd let them be. But once they know the chickens are there they are crafty and they will keep trying to find ways to circumvent your fortification until they find a way in. It's best to just eliminate the problem before they find a way in.
Yes I have heard that term. It was when I was a kid watching a Disney movie.
Lock the door. The cannot open it
For gosh sakes we are overrun with coyotes and even them will not open the door to the hen house.

Skunks, mink, and coons will bury under and come on in. That is stopped with a concrete "rat barrier"

Not a big deal will will agree to disagree
 
I feel
I do not believe in Illinois we have any wildlife fencing laws. I will assure anyone we do have livestock fencing laws and there are disputes because the C.B.F. farmers want to tear out fence. A CBF is a corn , beans and and Florida farmer. The other issue is folks buying up land and putting houses on it. I pasture cattle 15 feet from a garage of a neighbor that tore out the fence. He was wrong and the fence went back in.

Good fences make good neighbors
IMOP, some properties should probably be fenced, and some neighbors should probably be fenced! Lol! Not all of either though! 😉 All depends on the property and/or the neighbor. 😂 My property is in a rural community. None of the residents in the community can see one another's house, because of landscape, lot size, vegetation and trees ext. None of us have fence's either, and like it that way! 👍 Except those with a fence around their gardens to keep the wild life out.👍 I have a tater garden but no fence. Nothing seems to like my taters though. I guess Im not much of a spud farmer! 😂
 
Yes I have heard that term. It was when I was a kid watching a Disney movie.
Lock the door. The cannot open it
For gosh sakes we are overrun with coyotes and even them will not open the door to the hen house.

Skunks, mink, and coons will bury under and come on in. That is stopped with a concrete "rat barrier"

Not a big deal will will agree to disagree
If a fox is killing my free range chickens? His ass is getting taken out no questions asked plain and simple! The fox is a wild animal! He can go catch his ass a wild rabbit and leave my domestic poultry stock alone! 👍 That being said, fox are abundant on Kodiak and a non indiginous species to the Island. They were introduced to the Island by the Russians in the 1700's. They even actually had numerous fox farms around the Island fir the fur trade!
 
I feel
IMOP, some properties should probably be fenced, and some neighbors should probably be fenced! Lol! Not all of either though! 😉 All depends on the property and/or the neighbor. 😂 My property is in a rural community. None of the residents in the community can see one another's house, because of landscape, lot size, vegetation and trees ext. None of us have fence's either, and like it that way! 👍 Except those with a fence around their gardens to keep the wild life out.👍 I have a tater garden but no fence. Nothing seems to like my taters though. I guess Im not much of a spud farmer! 😂
I'm curious. It seems like a lot of guys on here grow potatoes. now mind you, I don't have a darn thing to do with our garden, that's strictly my wife's domain. I hate gardening, to me it's too much like work. But the person who owned this house prior to us grew potatoes, and he was giving my wife advice on growing potatoes. After we were no longer around them, she told me "I'll never grow potatoes, because you can't tell the difference between store-bought potatoes, and home-grown ones". Now, I don't know if that's true or not, but I take her word for it. I know things like tomatoes and some other vegetables are definitely better when grown at home, but do you guys just grow potatoes for economic reasons, or do you actually taste a difference?
 
Wolves are a major problem but are protected. The vast majority of MN has no gophers. I believe they prefer grasslands.
Many years ago I was up in the boundary waters and saw a lot of moose. After having three sons I investigated hunting moose in your state well not possible. You have VERY restrictive laws.

As for gophers are you not known as the "gopher state" Is not the University Of Minnesota the "Golden Gophers"

I am kidding you. We are the "Fighting Illini" and I have yet to see a Illiniwek Indian. Acroos the ditch is Iowa and I have yet to see a Hawkeye.
 
Many years ago I was up in the boundary waters and saw a lot of moose. After having three sons I investigated hunting moose in your state well not possible. You have VERY restrictive laws.

As for gophers are you not known as the "gopher state" Is not the University Of Minnesota the "Golden Gophers"

I am kidding you. We are the "Fighting Illini" and I have yet to see a Illiniwek Indian. Acroos the ditch is Iowa and I have yet to see a Hawkeye.
The Illini is where my all-time favorite, **** Butkus hailed from!
 
I'm curious. It seems like a lot of guys on here grow potatoes. now mind you, I don't have a darn thing to do with our garden, that's strictly my wife's domain. I hate gardening, to me it's too much like work. But the person who owned this house prior to us grew potatoes, and he was giving my wife advice on growing potatoes. After we were no longer around them, she told me "I'll never grow potatoes, because you can't tell the difference between store-bought potatoes, and home-grown ones". Now, I don't know if that's true or not, but I take her word for it. I know things like tomatoes and some other vegetables are definitely better when grown at home, but do you guys just grow potatoes for economic reasons, or do you actually taste a difference?
Potatoes are cheep in the grocery stores, and I cant tell a difference. I grow them because its the only eatable plant I can seem to grow! Except Chives, but I only had to plant them once and they seem to come back every year like some dam weed. Witch is a good thing though because I like chives on my potatoes! 👍 I'm not good at growing plants. ☝️ I'm fairly decent at cutting them down though!
 
So glad I have cool neighbors...one neighbor has a wire fence up along the property boundary, but only because they have dogs. The fence on the other property boundary got knocked down by windfall a couple winters back. My neighbor on that side doesn't care if the fence ever goes back up and neither do I. We end up BS'ing at each other's houses all the time, so a downed fence just makes it more convenient lol.
The neighbor I referenced is a wonderful man as is his wife. They are both retired police officers. The situatiom got dealt with and that is that. I have always considered them excellent folk. As I said good fences make good neighbors and this fence was an issue that was addressed, dealt with , and that is that. We normally meet at the corner post every Sunday night for a 2 hour chat but they went on a fishing trip which altered our schedule. When they were leaving she called and asked me to keep a look on the farm as they were going fishing. It so happens I live on the highest point in the county and can keep a decent eye on their place as they are at the corner of my farm which is a dead end.

Bill
 

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