Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[tpence2177]

Dang was pulling for Michigan. Not a fan of Ohio State. Nothing against them really just don't care for Urban Meyer

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[Cowboy254]

Scrounged a couple of the trees that I dropped earlier this year and got my new firewood spot setup. Going to build a rack for it but figured a half dead tree will do for now lol. Got a few round split up and noticed my cheapo maul wasn't making solid hits. Looked at all the epoxy and it's already cracking inside the maul. Oh well guess it's time for that fiskars lol.

Not big at all but it's a start.
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Better be careful with that el cheapo maul, I know someone who smashed himself in the shin with the handle when the head came flying off on the downswing...

 

[tpence2177]

Better be careful with that el cheapo maul, I know someone who smashed himself in the shin with the handle when the head came flying off on the downswing...

Thanks already replaced it didn't trust it after I noticed the head moving on a solid hit. May try and get a wooden handle. The maul part isn't half bad

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[dancan]

Youse guys with your oak, locust,hedge,beech and then there's that Cowboy down there with his high btu Aussie wood , y'all make me sick , I think I'm gonna unfriend the lot of youse ,,,,, NOT LOL
I guess I'll make up with quantity for what I don't have in quality so more outdoor time for me
Beauti day up here in the Great White North , sunny and around 41f so off to the lot that we cut we went and started to move some wood .
Fired up the MF1020 and and got a few loads .

We do have a few soft spots in the trail but the 1020 didn't falter , the chains are awesome , as the day went on we would fill in the soft spots with end cuts and spruce branches to make the trips faster and easier .

We off loaded the loads into the dump trailer

We got 3+ cords out today , gave that stuff to Billy (the fella that has my electric Makita) He's real happy , wanted to know where to get another chain for the saw , I told him I'll drop one off next week .
Scrounge on gentleman !

 

[nomad_archer]

That's a great deal on the Subaru motor.
I found a brand new 13hp honda the other day for 300, but considering the exchange rate and the electric start that makes it a heck of a deal .

What are the complaints with the 461, I haven't heard any, but I haven't been looking to hard for them. I have heard about many problems with the 441c-m though. I loved mine, smooth as silk and cut like a dream, and just slightly less power than a 460 at the same weight. I wouldn't recommend the 441 for production cutting, but for what most of us are doing it's a very nice saw with one of the coolest exhaust notes.
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"husky guy". When is the coming out party.

 

[svk]

Listened to the entire iron bowl game which went how I wanted and expected. Was rooting for Michigan too.

 

[tpence2177]

Listened to the entire iron bowl game which went how I wanted and expected. Was rooting for Michigan too.

Can't like that post lol. It went how I knew it would go. We just don't have enough offense this year and our bid players are hurt so I knew we didn't stand a chance.

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[svk]

Checked out the grocery store for scrounge on my way out of town.

The Florida hardwood bags appear to be straight oak (although are labeled mixed hardwoods). It was treated for transport too but we were pretty short on space in the car.

It was funny to see the birch Swedish candles. I forgot to check place of origin as they certainly traveled a long way!

 

[PSUplowboy]

Hauled the last of the free log pile home today. I'll be into red pine and locust next most likely.

 

[MustangMike]

FYI, the 461 is the only Pro Stihl saw that is NOT MTronic. The only issue I know of with the 461 is the excessive heat on the piston due to emissions issues. The cure (IMO) is a DP muffler cover, and pull the carb limiters.

 

[MustangMike]

I made my own (very primitive) fly once many years ago. Just took a piece of white cloth (from a bed sheet) and wrapped a pattern of red thread around it. Actually caught a brook trout with it, but only one, and I gave up on it. Also, was just using a conventional reel (not a fly rod).

 

[chipper1]

FYI, the 461 is the only Pro Stihl saw that is NOT MTronic. The only issue I know of with the 461 is the excessive heat on the piston due to emissions issues. The cure (IMO) is a DP muffler cover, and pull the carb limiters.

Thanks Mike, that's all I knew of myself(the 461 may be losing that status when the 462 hit's the market though). That's not a problem for me as I don't cut in the crazy heat very often and when I do I get tired long before the saws do LOL. I've heard similar complaints for yrs in regards to the cat mufflers on the 353/359 and have not had a problem myself. I feel as with much of the problems I've seen with small engines the main problem is the ethanol fuel, and the second is the operator(which covers a lot of different issues such as oil mix, dull chains improperly set depth gauges, dirty air cleaners, improper storage of the saw......).
Here's something I just wrote last week on a few of my thought's in regards to premix ratios and ethanol.
This was in the Good Morning Thread.

I'm a strong believer in using what works as sometimes the engineers get it wrong as computers don't always bring things to real world situations.
I use mostly 50:1 and then in the ported saws 42-45:1 or close. I don't run my saws very hard though.
When changing ratios I don't ad more or less oil, but less gas, which makes the errors I could make less than if I was adjusting the oil (because it is the larger amount I'm changing in the equation).
James the opti-2 is great oil and I have used it mixed as stated on the bottle for many yrs in my weed wacker as well as my blower. I buy the large container with the little measuring cup on it.
Todd I've never had the blower or weed wacker apart to check the bearings, same for all the saws I've ever owned except the 346 I straight gased, and the bearings were still great(last I heard they still are 2yrs later) and the inside of that saw was in awesome shape except the piston lol. That being said cutting the wood you cut in the conditions you cut in I would run a minimum of 45:1, your cutting is more like a milling situation in comparison to what we do with saws lol. You also say it will burn the excess oil and I tend to disagree as that is why I see saws smoking like mad and oil dripping out the mufflers. I don't run my cars or my wood stove that way, and won't run a saw like that either.
As I have said before talking to Randy he said do not run the still ultra in anything at a ratio greater than 40:1 or 42:1(I can't remember which) as it leaves a lot of deposits/caking, but there are other oils he said are fine to run that rich.
I've found that separated ethanol fuel(phase separation) is one of the worse things for destroying equipment in general. Fuel stabilizers can only do so much to prevent this. I think many of the problems people have blamed on 50:1 have been ethanol related and not the fault of a 50:1 ratio. Most of the problems I've seen are in the same timeframe as the ethanol became much more prevalent here, at least this is what I have observed. Shaking up a gallon of phase separated fuel will help for a matter of minutes at best which means you are now running an alcohol race saw, hope it's tuned properly , cause if not.
I also see that many of the things I have worked on have a lot of water/moisture in the fuel as the tanks are vented and the alcohol in the ethanol fuel attracts a lot of moisture. One other issue that the ethanol has created is air leaks because it eats the seals and hoses on equipment. This was a very large problem for quite some time till the Chinese/Americans ordering parts from the Chinese figured out what was going on.
If you can get non ethanol fuel for any equipment that will be sitting and for gas cans that is what I recommend as it will eliminate more problems than you can imagine. If you want to run ethanol in your saws because it's cheaper then before you put them up run them empty/dump the ethanol gas out and put a true fuel(or other ethanol free gas) in it to store them and make sure you run it through to get it into the whole engine/carb.

As for MD's saw it is still under warranty and he needs to follow the manufacturer recommendations or he will void the warranty.

I made my own (very primitive) fly once many years ago. Just took a piece of white cloth (from a bed sheet) and wrapped a pattern of red thread around it. Actually caught a brook trout with it, but only one, and I gave up on it. Also, was just using a conventional reel (not a fly rod).

That's awesome Mikgyver lol.
We use fly equipment for various reasons with live bait .

How did the delivery of the cord of wood go the other day?

 

[chipper1]

Dang was pulling for Michigan. Not a fan of Ohio State. Nothing against them really just don't care for Urban Meyer

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I'm not a "fan" of either, nor of any other team. When they start using some sort of gas powered engine on the field, then maybe I will become a fan .
I do root for Mi as most the time I'm watching a game it's with all the inlays who are all "buckeyes", so I gotta do the right thing being from and living in Mi.
Glad to hear you got the fishers, like mine(both of them), used the little one tonight to split some kindling since I didn't have a bag of stumpchunks .

 

[Cowboy254]

Youse guys with your oak, locust,hedge,beech and then there's that Cowboy down there with his high btu Aussie wood , y'all make me sick , I think I'm gonna unfriend the lot of youse ,,,,, NOT LOL
I guess I'll make up with quantity for what I don't have in quality so more outdoor time for me
Beauti day up here in the Great White North , sunny and around 41f so off to the lot that we cut we went and started to move some wood .
Fired up the MF1020 and and got a few loads .

We do have a few soft spots in the trail but the 1020 didn't falter , the chains are awesome , as the day went on we would fill in the soft spots with end cuts and spruce branches to make the trips faster and easier .

We off loaded the loads into the dump trailer

We got 3+ cords out today , gave that stuff to Billy (the fella that has my electric Makita) He's real happy , wanted to know where to get another chain for the saw , I told him I'll drop one off next week .
Scrounge on gentleman !

Billy is lucky to have a mate like you . Excellent system you have there, too....possibly more efficient than I was today moving wood with a wheelbarrow.

 

[chipper1]

"husky guy". When is the coming out party.

The coming out party is whenever folks can afford it, I have stuff you know nothing about(that's my Sunday phrase for you buddy, just change stuff to food ).
I sell way more stihls, but still prefer my husky's.
I must admit that I wish huskys were more affordable in the larger saws, and that they had some better choices in the under 50cc class saws.
In my opinion stihl has that market cornered here in the US and has for some time.
It's also much easier to get a great deal on a stihl as there are more around.
My current husky/jred to stihl ratio is 2.3;1. I had to count them to be sure, whoops forgot about the 044, that will change things a bit.
2:1 is the current ratio as far as I know right now.
This # is subject to change as I remember saws I've forgot/ I have or remember saws I've bought and have not received .

 

[Cowboy254]

Well, I knew today was coming. There have been several fallen peppermints of varying sizes and termite content that I had cut up previously but due to the wet conditions, hadn't been able to pick up. Today was the day.

This from previous posting...



And this from previous posting...



had to be picked up. The first one wasn't too difficult as I could drive up to within a few metres of it. The second one however...



I had a fair slope to get down to the trailer, couldn't get any closer. Too steep to go straight down with the wheelbarrow otherwise it would have ended up in the creek 400m downhill. Had to traverse the slope. Blimey, it's normally about a 1hr 40min turn around to get a load home, this was 3 hours. And it was two loads because there was a second similar sized pile behind the one shown that I had cut for the lady farmer (that she no longer needs since she's leaving soon). 3 loads in all, one a bit termity for the meat ants to pick at, and two loads of primo peppermint to go into the shed. A lot of work for one lousy cord of admittedly awesome firewood. Daddy needs some medicine .



Fortunately, thanks to my lovely bride, medicine was at hand.

 

[dancan]

Billy is lucky to have a mate like you . Excellent system you have there, too....possibly more efficient than I was today moving wood with a wheelbarrow.

I've move a lot of wood with a wheelbarrow , pretty efficient rig with only one wheel to keep inflated , I had 4 to do yesterday

Thanks for the info on the 461 Mike , I've not kept up on the bigger saws , just saw some of the grumblings about them .
Looks like a wet day here , no scrounging

 

[square1]

Looks like a wet day here , no scrounging

Be a good day for you to post pics detailing the workings of your logging trailer. I keep almost seeing how that running gear works, but just get enough to peak my interest.
After 2 days of all day rain, nothing heavy, I was able to get into the woods and drop some trees yesterday. Good thing too, was about to slip into a coma!

 

[benp]

Got back from Walmart after getting the fiskars super splitting axe so I had to try it out. Split stuff way better than my cheapo 4.5 lb maul definitely impressed with it!

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Welcome to the dark side. You will be surprised what you can accomplish with it.

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Hmmmmm......I still think it's hard to beat the stumpwood of the southern pines for kindling.

Interesting non the less.

Youse guys with your oak, locust,hedge,beech and then there's that Cowboy down there with his high btu Aussie wood , y'all make me sick , I think I'm gonna unfriend the lot of youse ,,,,, NOT LOL
I guess I'll make up with quantity for what I don't have in quality so more outdoor time for me
Beauti day up here in the Great White North , sunny and around 41f so off to the lot that we cut we went and started to move some wood .
Fired up the MF1020 and and got a few loads .

We do have a few soft spots in the trail but the 1020 didn't falter , the chains are awesome , as the day went on we would fill in the soft spots with end cuts and spruce branches to make the trips faster and easier .

We off loaded the loads into the dump trailer

We got 3+ cords out today , gave that stuff to Billy (the fella that has my electric Makita) He's real happy , wanted to know where to get another chain for the saw , I told him I'll drop one off next week .
Scrounge on gentleman !

Awesome Dan!!! I really did the articulating suspension.

I wish my wagon articulated. It would make for a lot less skittish moments in the woods.

I might have to talk to the builder about his thoughts on that.

I've move a lot of wood with a wheelbarrow , pretty efficient rig with only one wheel to keep inflated , I had 4 to do yesterday

Thanks for the info on the 461 Mike , I've not kept up on the bigger saws , just saw some of the grumblings about them .
Looks like a wet day here , no scrounging

What's up with that Dan? Blowing beads? Getting debris in between the rim and tiring causing flats? Straight out punctures?

What ply are tires?

 

[benp]

Well, I knew today was coming. There have been several fallen peppermints of varying sizes and termite content that I had cut up previously but due to the wet conditions, hadn't been able to pick up. Today was the day.

This from previous posting...

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And this from previous posting...

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had to be picked up. The first one wasn't too difficult as I could drive up to within a few metres of it. The second one however...

View attachment 539648

I had a fair slope to get down to the trailer, couldn't get any closer. Too steep to go straight down with the wheelbarrow otherwise it would have ended up in the creek 400m downhill. Had to traverse the slope. Blimey, it's normally about a 1hr 40min turn around to get a load home, this was 3 hours. And it was two loads because there was a second similar sized pile behind the one shown that I had cut for the lady farmer (that she no longer needs since she's leaving soon). 3 loads in all, one a bit termity for the meat ants to pick at, and two loads of primo peppermint to go into the shed. A lot of work for one lousy cord of admittedly awesome firewood. Daddy needs some medicine .

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Fortunately, thanks to my lovely bride, medicine was at hand.

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Good deal Cowboy!!

A lot of work for awesome firewood. Yep. Awesome firewood.

Good wife you have there and it looks like you have a great view to enjoy it.