So what did you get for Christmas

[Scrat]

LOL,damn bro....

Yeh and the knife is in case he can't figure out how to use the pistol.....hehehe

 

[tree MDS]

LOL,damn bro....

MDS "Liked" that post! :biggrin:

 

[the Aerialist]

OK ~ here's the truth ...

C'mon aerialist tell everybody the TRUTH why your father in-law gave you the gun, only one bullet and everyone else in the house except you earplugs....hehehe

My father-in-law is dying of cancer, the same type that took Steve Jobs. His car broke down and I put up $1100 to fix it for him. He not only gave me the derringer, but he also gave me back a nice .22 Mag squirrel gun that I had given him years ago so he could get out in the woods.

 

[Huskytree]

Kimber QA has been #### for a few years they are also using substandard metals. No I dont shoot IDPA but I have played someone that shoots IDPA on TV... No wait I also slept at a Holiday Inn last night... Well lets just say I have a lot of friends that shoot guns all the time.

So what you are really saying is that your not speaking from experiance or facts, but from friends opinions? I shoot a little more then most, both hunting and competition and can assure you that Kimbers QA is on track and that their materials are top notch. I am confident enough to put either my Montana .308 or my Tactical Pro II .45acp up against any other factory firearms. Tell me a better factory rifle or pistol on the market now from your friends humble opinions?

 

[tree MDS]

My father-in-law is dying of cancer, the same type that took Steve Jobs. His car broke down and I put up $1100 to fix it for him. He not only gave me the derringer, but he also gave me back a nice .22 Mag squirrel gun that I had given him years ago so he could get out in the woods.

No, I think he just wants to make sure you have them handy.. just in case you actually finally have bright idea, or something... I doubt he is holding his breath though! :msp_smile:

 

[Tree Pig]

So what you are really saying is that your not speaking from experiance or facts, but from friends opinions? I shoot a little more then most, both hunting and competition and can assure you that Kimbers QA is on track and that their materials are top notch. I am confident enough to put either my Montana .308 or my Tactical Pro II .45acp up against any other factory firearms. Tell me a better factory rifle or pistol on the market now from your friends humble opinions?

Yep you got me no gun experience at all... well unless you count 6 years in the military, 20+ years in law enforcement. Trained as a Sniper by both military, FBI and other civilian organizations (S&W, Crosshairs Inc. ETC.) 4 years on Military Anti Terrorism Team, 7 Years as Civilian ERT (SWAT) team, countless schools taught by Police and Military Special Ops instructors (US and British) plus tons of other classes and hours of training I am sure I am forgetting.

Besides gun doesnt make the shooter... Shooter makes the gun.

But why argue over it over the internet you are in Ct.. Bring your two I take a out of the box Savage Match Rifle and Stock 1911... but nothing free is much fun so lets make it interesting.

Most of those friends I was joking about are absolute gun EXPERTS... Certified gunsmiths down to the man they will all tell you that Kimber is now living on the name they made years ago and Kimber is nothing more then an overpriced commercial POS.

 

[Tree Pig]

Holy crap dude I hope you shoot faster then you type.

 

[Huskytree]

I will gladly shoot with you anytime and any discipline. Like I said you really don't talk a good game. Maybe better sticking to cutting trees and what you really know. PM me and we can talk about police work, sniping, and competitive shooting.

 

[Tree Pig]

I will gladly shoot with you anytime and any discipline. Like I said you really don't talk a good game. Maybe better sticking to cutting trees and what you really know. PM me and we can talk about police work, sniping, and competitive shooting.

ROFL


Dude WTF are you talking about, I dont talk a good game? You prove your ignorance by bragging about the kimber... stock up on gun oil and #0000 Steal wool you will need it.


I am still working in LE... City of Hartford to be exact I can verify everything I said and back up the shooting. You can come meet me at work tomorrow we have a range out back. Bring one of them Huskys so we have something useless to shoot at.

 

[Huskytree]

Not worried about you backing anything up. I shot you a PM so you know I know atleast one of your prior bosses. Like I said send me a PM. I really don't want to drag this out in an open forum and make you look silly. I am sure you are a good guy.

 

[tree md]

I'd like to know the results of the shooting match. Nothing wrong with a little #### talking and a nice friendly competition.

 

[Tree Pig]

I'd like to know the results of the shooting match. Nothing wrong with a little #### talking and a nice friendly competition.

I dont know MD I just cant win I talk about tree work in here and I get my balls busted because I am a cop. I talk about being a cop and I get my balls busted about talking about cop type stuff... I just cant win.

At least with MDS and others busting my balls about tree #### I can except it because they do know more then I may ever know but this is too weird.

Sorry for Hijacking the Christmas thread everyone...

 

[2treeornot2tree]

Why not make it even more interesting. You both can bring your guns and I will bring my savage match rifle. Lets go shoot clay birds at 1000 yds and see who hits more in a row without missing. We can even have a little more fun by putting that husky out at 1000yds and see who can hit it cold bore.

 

[Scrat]

My father-in-law is dying of cancer, the same type that took Steve Jobs. His car broke down and I put up $1100 to fix it for him. He not only gave me the derringer, but he also gave me back a nice .22 Mag squirrel gun that I had given him years ago so he could get out in the woods.

Aerialist,
You know my post was in friendly humor only related to your Xmas gift post, and I would not not have jabed you had I known your association to or the history of the gift later noted in your above post. Please accept my deepest apology, I am sorry if I caused you any undue pain.
Scrat

 

[Tree Pig]

Why not make it even more interesting. You both can bring your guns and I will bring my savage match rifle. Lets go shoot clay birds at 1000 yds and see who hits more in a row without missing. We can even have a little more fun by putting that husky out at 1000yds and see who can hit it cold bore.

Now there is three things we can agree on

1. Savage Match Rifle by far best bang for a buck

2. Cold Bore shot is the only true test of ability for sniping... the rest is just window dressing.

3. Shooting at Huskys = Fun

 

[the Aerialist]

You couldn't know ...

Aerialist,
You know my post was in friendly humor only related to your Xmas gift post, and I would not not have jabed you had I known your association to or the history of the gift later noted in your above post. Please accept my deepest apology, I am sorry if I caused you any undue pain.
Scrat

No offense taken. Death is part of everyone's life. The man is prepared.

 

[Huskytree]

Now there is three things we can agree on

1. Savage Match Rifle by far best bang for a buck

2. Cold Bore shot is the only true test of ability for sniping... the rest is just window dressing.

3. Shooting at Huskys = Fun

Actually Stihl-O-Matic seems to be a good guy as I suspected after PMing.

1. I can build a better rifle off a Stiller Action and a Mike Rock barrel with a McMillan handle.

2. Shooting is the easiest part of the eqaution. But you are talking about LEO sniping which in the big picture of sniping is short range. Judging wind is much more complex at long ranges then squeezing off a round. If you know your rifle and load then cold bore shots are a known.

3. We can shoot all day long at whatever brand chain saw you choose as long as they aren't mine!

comparing rifles and what works is a complex thing, if you are shooting off a bench all day weight isn't an issue. If you are humping all day long in the Brooks Range for Dall Sheep your opinion of that bench rest rifle will change in a hurry. Another thing is not all rifles are built for the same shooting position. Like chain saws most all have strong loyalties to one over another. Some based on facts some not so much. Stihl-O-Matic doesn't care for Kimber that is his choice and opinion and he is entitled to it. However facts is that Kimbers compete all day long at the top of the podiums in the pistol world. As their rifles are pretty well respected in the lightweight hunting world.

 

[TreeAce]

My father-in-law is dying of cancer, the same type that took Steve Jobs. His car broke down and I put up $1100 to fix it for him. He not only gave me the derringer, but he also gave me back a nice .22 Mag squirrel gun that I had given him years ago so he could get out in the woods.

I am very sorry to hear about your Father n law. I have seen a few leave this world from cancer and it is very sad. But I do have a question....what did you get for Christmas?

 

[2treeornot2tree]

I agree. I got a remington 700p that shoots pretty good from all positions. The best 10 shot group i got at 1000yds with it is 8.75"

 

[Tree Pig]

Actually Stihl-O-Matic seems to be a good guy as I suspected after PMing.

1. I can build a better rifle off a Stiller Action and a Mike Rock barrel with a McMillan handle.

2. Shooting is the easiest part of the eqaution. But you are talking about LEO sniping which in the big picture of sniping is short range. Judging wind is much more complex at long ranges then squeezing off a round. If you know your rifle and load then cold bore shots are a known.

3. We can shoot all day long at whatever brand chain saw you choose as long as they aren't mine!

We agree and disagree on the cold bore thing because of point of view. Cold bore shots are known if you are a technically proficient sniper... we are talking fraction of an inch and human life, Paper targets do not die if you screw up. Missing by an inch on a sheep only means a longer walk. The only shot that counts is the cold bore shot. I dont mean the you have all day long lets get a dope chart out and range finder. Then we can take 3 or 4 minutes to look at the thermals at several distances and adjust our windage accordingly. I mean run three blocks scale 3 fences climb the side of a building start setting up then oh #### TARGET... #### gun shoot... BANG!!! thats a cold bore shot to me nothing else matters. Shoot at all the paper you want, dall sheep all day but my favorite quote of all time is this


"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter"

Ernest Hemingway

and Ill bet P. J. will agree.

Of course if I was AA I could just put them in the Vulcan Death Grip