Stihl 046 Magnum hard starting

[SawMekanic]

What temperature is it there?

around 40 currently , but it also does this when 80 out

 

[Saw Dr.]

mines a 046 , older one , im pretty certain its got a pretty aggressive curve

It does not have a curve, that is why it is harder to start. The fixed ignition timing is advanced to run strong up on top. The tradeoff is that you have to pull it like you mean it, or be bitten.

Whatever you do, do not try to start an 056 mag

 

[lone wolf]

mines a 046 , older one , im pretty certain its got a pretty aggressive curve

I have one of those , it starts better than any of my mS440s.

 

[lone wolf]

Are you drop starting with WOT and choke on for a few pulls then choke off after it pops once then wot on again?

 

[big t double]

hey saw doc...i thought the 460 used the 1122 400 1314, same as 660 which has a curve to compensate for the poly flywheel...you just blew my mind

 

[Saw Dr.]

hey saw doc...i thought the 460 used the 1122 400 1314, same as 660 which has a curve to compensate for the poly flywheel...you just blew my mind

Dangit! You're going to make me actually look it up.... Either way, the coil is not likely the problem if it runs properly otherwise.

 

[big t double]

Dangit! You're going to make me actually look it up.... Either way, the coil is not likely the problem if it runs properly otherwise.

hahaha sorry doc.

 

[nmurph]

hey saw doc...i thought the 460 used the 1122 400 1314, same as 660 which has a curve to compensate for the poly flywheel...you just blew my mind

I think JJ said the early ones did but not the later years.

 

[Mastermind]

This is fun.

 

[nmurph]

hey saw doc...i thought the 460 used the 1122 400 1314, same as 660 which has a curve to compensate for the poly flywheel...you just blew my mind

C&P'd from JJ's TP ad for his 046.

It has the early, desirable 046 cylinder with the D-shaped combustion chamber and good port timing. It also has the desirable early ignition with the aggressive timing curve.

 

[Saw Dr.]

T.I. 10.2006 talks about the ignition change over. I can't view it from my phone.

 

[Saw Dr.]

As big t says, the IPL calls out the same ignition for 460 and 660.

 

[Mastermind]

The 046 does use timing advance....

If his coil is stuck in advance mode (yeah it happens) that could be his trouble...

 

[Saw Dr.]

Ah yeah, I got a little egg on my face here.

 

[big t double]

I think JJ said the early ones did but not the later years.

10-4...all I can look up is the 1314 coil for the 046/460 which is off a newer ipl...ill have to dig around and see if I have an older ipl...again...mind...blown

 

[Mastermind]

We had a 088 that had a stuck coil a while back. The damn thing ripped some tendons in my wrist.

 

[big t double]

C&P'd from JJ's TP ad for his 046.

yea I seen his add...wish I had the money...he said it had a 1128 400 1309 coil on it...that must be nla because I have no info on it...jj is the man.

 

[Saw Dr.]

OK, that is the wrong ti. I'll figure it out when I get to a real computer.

 

[big t double]

OK, that is the wrong ti. I'll figure it out when I get to a real computer.

well info on the edt7 and edt8 are good to have tho

 

[Saw Dr.]

I'm going to need some humble pie I guess. I was thinking they switched to the -1300 coil that is on everything else. Looks like Randy saved the ship though.