synthetic oil question

[sperho]

I've been using dino 2-stroke oil (various brands) for my power equipment and after reading up on synthetics (especially with the 4-mix trimmer I own), I'm making the switch. When I went to buy some Stihl Ultra at the Stihl shop, the counterperson told me that once I make the switch that I should never go back to dino because "Stihl" told them overheating/locking up was probable. I was a bit surprised and mentioned that I've not seen that documented anywhere and frankly I think he's probably full of it, but has anyone (especially those in Stihl shops) heard this same thing or does this guy need his ears cleaned out (perhaps he heard wrong)?

 

[Jacob J.]

I doubt that Stihl technical support told them that. We talked about the new synthetic oils at a dealer meeting and nothing along the lines of what you encountered was mentioned.

 

[Lakeside53]

Yes.. just another silly rumor...

 

[TDunk]

i've heard rumors like that before in automobiles. It doesn't hurt to switch from one to the other. Personaly, i like to stay with one product but that's just me.

 

[sperho]

Thanks folks. I usually dismiss this kind of garbage out of hand, but he was so adament, I thought I'd have to run it by the pros on this site...

 

[Patrick62]

I heard a different one

I run WP oil from Baileys, and when I bought the 260 I was told "I have to run the Stihl oil or they won't warranty it."

My reply was I am running good oil, and it is mixed at 40:1. He said it doesn't matter, it ain't Stihl oil. Then I said:

If it quits then HE is going to fix it. If HE doesn't want to then I will smash the pieces in the back room and buy me a NEW Husky. Silence after that.
I think that was/is a tactic to sell more Stihl oil.

-Pat

 

[dtnodya]

I run WP oil from Baileys, and when I bought the 260 I was told "I have to run the Stihl oil or they won't warranty it."

My reply was I am running good oil, and it is mixed at 40:1. He said it doesn't matter, it ain't Stihl oil. Then I said:

If it quits then HE is going to fix it. If HE doesn't want to then I will smash the pieces in the back room and buy me a NEW Husky. Silence after that.
I think that was/is a tactic to sell more Stihl oil.

-Pat

That's mo-tarded. How would they know if you used Stihl oil or not? Lock up the saw, dump the other gas, add Stihl oil, warranty issue solved. (He B full of it)

 

[precaud]

If he's going to feed you a boatload of BS like that, you shouldn't be giving him one ounce of your business. He doesn't deserve it.

 

[SRT-Tech]

what the saleman did is called "fear mongering" sales technique.....they get the customer all scared that thier saw or whatever will never run again if they switch back to reg oil......meanwhile they make a killing selling the premium oil, becasue the client is freaked out his saw will fail if he buys another kind of oil.

ALL oils sold today for saws, cars etc EXCEED the manufactures spec for lubricants. That salesman should get a good swift kick in the teeth for fear mongering.

:censored:

 

[oldsaw]

I've been using dino 2-stroke oil (various brands) for my power equipment and after reading up on synthetics (especially with the 4-mix trimmer I own), I'm making the switch. When I went to buy some Stihl Ultra at the Stihl shop, the counterperson told me that once I make the switch that I should never go back to dino because "Stihl" told them overheating/locking up was probable. I was a bit surprised and mentioned that I've not seen that documented anywhere and frankly I think he's probably full of it, but has anyone (especially those in Stihl shops) heard this same thing or does this guy need his ears cleaned out (perhaps he heard wrong)?

No, he's just full of it. Synthetic is THE way to go. No smoke, less stink. Ask a chainsaw miller, they get much more intimate with saw exhaust. I'm not going back.

Mark

 

[SRT-Tech]

That's mo-tarded. How would they know if you used Stihl oil or not? Lock up the saw, dump the other gas, add Stihl oil, warranty issue solved. (He B full of it)

thats beyond retarded....what a freeaking moron. The ONLY way he will know if you are running "stihl" oil is to draw a sample from your saw, send it to a oil analysis lab (and that AINT cheap either...oil analysis starts at around $50 per sample and goes well past a $1000.) and check the results against a pure sample of "stihl" oil and see if the chemistry/additives/etc etc is the same. They can expect the sample back in about a month. are you going to be happy waiting for the results for a mont? or not have your saw for a month? did'nt think so

tell salesguy to blow it out his ***.

nuff said

 

[oldsaw]

I run WP oil from Baileys, and when I bought the 260 I was told "I have to run the Stihl oil or they won't warranty it."

My reply was I am running good oil, and it is mixed at 40:1. He said it doesn't matter, it ain't Stihl oil. Then I said:

If it quits then HE is going to fix it. If HE doesn't want to then I will smash the pieces in the back room and buy me a NEW Husky. Silence after that.
I think that was/is a tactic to sell more Stihl oil.

-Pat

That's actually a good thing. Legally, if he says that you have to run Stihl oil or there is no warranty, the dealer has to provide the oil for free. Go ask him for your free oil. To specify Stihl oil only and not provide it is against the law. Any comparable oil can be used and your warranty will be intact.

Mark

 

[BIGBORE577]

I switched to full synthetic and will never go back either. I can't tell a hill of beans worth of difference in performance and I'm not sure I should. However, with it's almost non existent smoke and odor, it's worth it to me. I haven't run it long enough in any of my saws to tell if it really runs any cleaner internally. But, I have no reason to doubt what the many more knowledgeable individuals here on AS claim about the issue.

 

[hvy048]

mixing the two?

I'm curious. Does anything bad happen if say a can, or saw is topped off with synthetic or dino oil when it was originally filled with the other?
hvy048

 

[precaud]

It's no different than "synthetic blend" oil - I don't how it could be bad.

 

[Tzed250]

Magnusson-Moss warranty act prevents anyone from putting such conditions of use on a product to keep the warranty valid. You might go let that jerk know that if he spouts that crap again you'll have the BBB on his tail...

 

[B_Turner]

I had heard that synthetic oil was less smokey and stinky, and I just got around to trying some. Found some 2T and will try some Stihl Ultra after I get out to Andy's to pick up some parts and stuff.

My first impression is favorable, with both less smoke and noticeably less stink. My wife came home from work yesterday, just after I had run a couple tanks doing some blocking in the yard. I mentioned that I had just tried the new oil, and she commented that I didn't smell 2strokey like I normally do after cutting. I hadn't even thought about it, but by golly she is right.

 

[Steve128]

I had heard that synthetic oil was less smokey and stinky, and I just got around to trying some. Found some 2T and will try some Stihl Ultra after I get out to Andy's to pick up some parts and stuff.

My first impression is favorable, with both less smoke and noticeably less stink. My wife came home from work yesterday, just after I had run a couple tanks doing some blocking in the yard. I mentioned that I had just tried the new oil, and she commented that I didn't smell 2strokey like I normally do after cutting. I hadn't even thought about it, but by golly she is right.

Even if they are wrong, they end up being right!

 

[RiverRat2]

That's mo-tarded. How would they know if you used Stihl oil or not? Lock up the saw, dump the other gas, add Stihl oil, warranty issue solved. (He B full of it)

I'm think you might be surprised,,, thats been tried before,,,,,,, :newbie: but the type of oil is not going to cause a seizure,,, there will always be a contributing factor that most really sharp techs will figure out what happend...

 

[oldsaw]

Magnusson-Moss warranty act prevents anyone from putting such conditions of use on a product to keep the warranty valid. You might go let that jerk know that if he spouts that crap again you'll have the BBB on his tail...

They can get around that by providing free oil for the life of the saw, it's the only way. Ask him if he will back up that statement, then ask for a 6 pack of free oil to start with, and you will be back in a while for the next 6 pack.

Mark