the all aussie dribble thread!

[tdi-rick]

Geez, you offending people again Serg ?

BTW, anyone recommend a good radiator supplier for the Patrol ?

We cracked/split/stuffed a tube last week when we hit SWMBO's sisters place near Byron.
As much as I hated to do it, a visit to Repco in Byron had a bottle of Wynn's stop leak plunked in the cooling system, right on top of my six month old Cummins long life PG coolant :msp_mad:

 

[porky616]

Geez, you offending people again Serg ?

BTW, anyone recommend a good radiator supplier for the Patrol ?

We cracked/split/stuffed a tube last week when we hit SWMBO's sisters place near Byron.
As much as I hated to do it, a visit to Repco in Byron had a bottle of Wynn's stop leak plunked in the cooling system, right on top of my six month old Cummins long life PG coolant :msp_mad:

what model? plenty of wrecks here in town, the rads are the only thing that dont rust under ground

 

[tdi-rick]

'01 GU TD42T.

We did one about six or seven years ago too, but that looked like it was eaten from the inside. I suspect the local garage didn't flush the system properly when I had them acid wash and flush it when it started to overheat (as all the Series I GU's seem to do...)

 

[porky616]

'01 GU TD42T.

We did one about six or seven years ago too, but that looked like it was eaten from the inside. I suspect the local garage didn't flush the system properly when I had them acid wash and flush it when it started to overheat (as all the Series I GU's seem to do...)

mines are near due for another auction of junk, i put the word out to some people and see what appears. a 6" hyd ram magically appeared in my yard today time to get my splitter happening

 

[billyj]

any idea how much they flog the utes for....half looking at dropping a td42t into my gq, the old efi petrol loves a drink a little too much when its towing 2 tons around

 

[AUSSIE1]

Sorry Al, i wasnt trying to offend anyone. Matt brought you into this jokingly.... I have alway said that Nissan/Toy/Landrovers all have good and bad points none are the best or worst. The Lsd thing was part joke part truth....If you cant see the differences in the different suspenion set ups the manufactures use then the point is lost...many people have driven all over this country of ours on 7.50-16s with great success. I drove all over fraser island for a week on them with 38psi in for the first 3 days....never got stuck and never had to drive like a monkey to get through....big tyres are as much a fassion accersory as an advantage. The vehicles im talking about here spend most of there time on the black top and when they do go off road will further rut out and soft rutted track, leaving stock vehilces bottomed out on their diffs....80% of these tracks are quite easliy drivable in stock 4x4's. Re read, I have said lsd and lockers are good, bigger tyres are good for certain things, but lsd is still an easy fix for a suspension that doesnt work as good as it could and big tyres dont need to be on 80% of the 4x4's that run them....and rolling resistance is shown up more so in softer stuff than high traction....contact patch is a important thing but how it interacts with the vehicle is greater. Just by changing the tyre size, you are changing anti-squat, anti-dive, COG and rollcenters...thats before the spring lift to fit them....that just gets worse...example most cases the AS goes through the roof, which leads to pig rooting on hill climbs and yep, diging out the ruts even further

how many vehicles have done the CREB line on stock size tyres over the years.....it is not getting easier for those that still run them due to the large number of 35+ tyred rigs going up there...

if you think that saying a Range Rover has a better suspension set up stock than a nissan or toyota just an emotion branded thing I think you need to get out of your nissan and start to look a little harder....my comment about the Hilux is due to them having IFS and leaf solid axle rear....and yes like ALL vehicles it is further let down by being built to a cost and packaging so that will comprimise the design and end product.

I joke about the landy as most defend their brand past reality and i know them(LR's) better than alot (rick excluded) but I have had it for 11 years now and its still serving me on a daily basis as a work vehilce....just the same as a Toy or Nissan would have, all with their fair shares of breakages...none are perfect.

Most modifications ( including larger tyres) have their place but doesn't mean it suit's all applications.

I have never suggested the Patrol is the best out there cause it ain't, but IS one of the best. I don't need to look any harder as I know very well what's out there and what they are capable of.

I built up my vehicle for use of road and as a work vehicle, not show, hence the pressure packed wheels ETC, no silly little tray that's good for nothing. Still using the commercial bull bar modified for the high mount. No wanky lights across the roll bar. Get close to my Patrol and you'll see it gets used. The amount of body work I've had to do. This thing certainly ain't no show pony!`

 

[AUSSIE1]

any idea how much they flog the utes for....half looking at dropping a td42t into my gq, the old efi petrol loves a drink a little too much when its towing 2 tons around

The TD42t will drink well too mate.

I have a GQ with the TB42 efi turboed on gas and this is alot more economical than the ute.

 

[billyj]

yer but it will go better, and i doubt it would get close to 27L per hundred, although a turbo on the current donk could become an option

 

[AUSSIE1]

yer but it will go better, and i doubt it would get close to 27L per hundred, although a turbo on the current donk could become an option

Bluddy ell, sell it and buy a GU

 

[billyj]

i wish, spent too much time and money getting this one nearly how i want it, got 2" lift, 285/75 16's, full exhaust & pacies, dual batts, winch, dual long range tanks(213L capacity)and the other usual smaller things


mainly just want a little more grunt, and less fuel usage, that 27l figure is towing around town in stop start conditions which is 90% of my driving, pretty sure is needs a new oxy snesor and probly needs the injectors cleaned/replaced seen its up to 335k kms. maybe i should have done the ls1 conversion i was considering when i totaled the zx6 a few years back

 

[tdi-rick]

Missus Rick had the last of the carbie GQ TB42's before she bought the GU and it didn't drink that much towing horses :msp_ohmy:

 

[billyj]

like i said 2 ton tandem tradies trailer + 33's + pretty much all stop start driving trips less that 15mins = major pain at servos

 

[husq2100]

Most modifications ( including larger tyres) have their place but doesn't mean it suit's all applications.

I have never suggested the Patrol is the best out there cause it ain't, but IS one of the best. I don't need to look any harder as I know very well what's out there and what they are capable of.

I built up my vehicle for use of road and as a work vehicle, not show, hence the pressure packed wheels ETC, no silly little tray that's good for nothing. Still using the commercial bull bar modified for the high mount. No wanky lights across the roll bar. Get close to my Patrol and you'll see it gets used. The amount of body work I've had to do. This thing certainly ain't no show pony!`

Al, you have clearly taken some of my comments personally. I did not bring "you" into this discussion. Lets address what I have said:

LSD comment: was half poke/joke and have truth. Im 100% certain it helps the perfromance of Terry's ute, but that doesnt dismiss what I have said about its supension design.

Nissan and Toy/bigger tyres: fact is more Nissans and Toys are sold than any other brands, and more percentage (not just numbers) are modiffied. As you know I live on the Gold Coast, here you see everyday lifted (whether it be spring or body) and big tyres 33+ but Id bet on the modded vehicles more 35's than 33's....this comment was not directed at you becuase you drive a Nissan with bigger tyres. The amount and type of offroad work most of these vehicles see do not require bigger tyres and lift. But it is the norm now. If you drive ANY brand with stock size tyres you will come stuck in the bigger ruts left by bigger tyres....

Suspension and tyres/changing the perfromance of the vehilce: Lets take your Nissan as an example. Now with your lift and tyres you can go more places than a stock version.....this does not mean your suspension is doing its primary jobs better. Unless you have changed the axle and chassis mounts on your vehicle with regards to suspension links you have changed all peramiters of it: AS, AD, axle roll angle, roll center heights, vehicle roll axis, bump steer etc. Now yes you can go further becasue you have better traction from a bigger tyre, but part of this is not just the size but the compound and tread......not many 32's have the tread and compound of a simex swamper etc....you probably have more wheel travel and have changed spring rates and shocks.....But I put this to you, a stock sized tyre patrol on stock height springs, but tuned rates and shocks will perform its job better on and off road than any lifted set up.....YET it WONT get as far....can you understand what I mean here. ie the results skew the facts....


Im sure you are one of the people that actually uses his vehicle to its full and definitly gets the need out of the bigger tyre, but here(GC) that is the minority. Hell even out west 99% of the cursiers and patrols run 7.50-16 rags....mostly famers and roo shooters. You dont have to explain to me why your rig is set up the way it is...its YOUR rig and your happy with it. Just like Terry and his little work Lux fits his needs.....I still stand by my comments on tyre and suspension. If im wrong on any of the suspenion ideas im happy to hear, as this is something im very interested in but have only just scratched the surface and need to learn alot more.

Nissans do build a very nice ute with a bullet proof driveline

 

[husq2100]

like i said 2 ton tandem tradies trailer + 33's + pretty much all stop start driving trips less that 15mins = major pain at servos

I know your pain

 

[billyj]

while were on the subject of fourbys, what kind of clutch would you all reccomend for my gq, is a 4.2efi petrol running 33"s and towing 2 tons daily. the current one is a std duty and is only just hanging on with only 50,000kms on it

i e-mailed both exedy and xtreme clutches this is what i got from xtreme

"I have quoted you on a couple of options including an Xtreme Outback Heavy Duty Clutch Kit (KNI28001HD) which consists of a Heavy Duty Pressure Plate, Sprung Organic Clutch Plate & Thrust Bearing. This would be suitable for Street Use only. There is also the option of an Xtreme Heavy Duty Cushioned-Button Clutch Kit (KNI28001DCBHD) which consists of a Heavy Duty Pressure Plate, Sprung Ceramic Clutch Plate & Thrust Bearing. This has the same clamp load but the pedal effort will be quite a bit firmer & the clutch will also be more aggressive on pedal engagement. This would also be suitable for Street Use, Off-road or Towing Use."

and exedy so far havent bothered to reply

so what does everyone think

 

[porky616]

my old gq is due for a new clutch too so i be interested too see what comes up, ive done 50thou on this one and i have no idea how long it was in it before i got it. mind you my old girls only standard 2.8 turbo and the clutch gets a fair reaming dragging ton and a half through heavy sand.
we had our first 4x4 extreme event up here this year and it was funny to watch all the top shelf cars catching on fire cos the sand was so heavy and made their turbos glow white, 2 blokes went to hos cos of the fumes they inhaled off their burning bonnet

 

[tdi-rick]

Billy, don't have any experience with the Nissan clutches but will have soon, our GU has passed 365,000km and it's still original.
I'm waiting for the 'HELP' phone call from SWMBO everytime she drives out the gate.......

If the engine is still fairly stock the less extreme of the extreme options should be OK, but with the GQ/GU's having a servo on the clutch M/C I probably wouldn't be too worried about the heavier setup either.

Clutch pedal weight is a funny thing though, what one bloke doesn't notice, someone else will be barely able to push with the left leg, and think it's the brake :msp_biggrin:

I have the Exedy catalogue here somewehere, I'll have a look.

[edit] only have listings for the GU and Landy, but the online catalogue is here http://clutchfinder.exedy.com.au/
click on the part # for your GQ (NSK-6831) and it lists the HD versions too.

 

[MCW]

Most modifications ( including larger tyres) have their place but doesn't mean it suit's all applications.

I have never suggested the Patrol is the best out there cause it ain't, but IS one of the best. I don't need to look any harder as I know very well what's out there and what they are capable of.

I built up my vehicle for use of road and as a work vehicle, not show, hence the pressure packed wheels ETC, no silly little tray that's good for nothing. Still using the commercial bull bar modified for the high mount. No wanky lights across the roll bar. Get close to my Patrol and you'll see it gets used. The amount of body work I've had to do. This thing certainly ain't no show pony!`

Awe come on Al, this doesn't excuse the fact you need a ladder to get in your lifted Troll

Oh, and you need wanky lights, an RM Williams sticker across the back window, and CAT or Kenworth mudflaps. Don't ask why, you just do...

Oh and an upgraded alternator to run all the lights...

How is Chinasaw going?

 

[tdi-rick]

Awe come on Al, this doesn't excuse the fact you need a ladder to get in your lifted Troll

Oh, and you need wanky lights, an RM Williams sticker across the back window, and CAT or Kenworth mudflaps. Don't ask why, you just do...

Oh and an upgraded alternator to run all the lights...

How is Chinasaw going?

Have you been sneaking peaks at young James down the roads 79 Series Land Bruiser ?

You forgot his twin stacks, more antennas than a cop car and 100 LED lights (seriously )

 

[tdi-rick]

and how about the 125 race just run ?

A tie/dead heat for first, they couldn't separate them even after looking at the photo's ! :msp_ohmy: