the all aussie dribble thread!

[husq2100]

Need to stick with the rustic look so I didn't think of the plates
What about using hoop pine, ive heard they wont touch that
Regards Peter

Hoop pine will rot quickly and the termites will see it as easy feed. They will plow throught it. As for timber, generally the harder the better regarding termites. But go into the bush and there pretty much isnt a tree that they wont get into. As I said cypress is well used for resisting them, but I doubt it 100%. Matt probably has a better idea of what species are best. But seriously any timber in the ground is just a matter of time. Even timber into concrete is bad.

Using a bracket something like I posted you can still use a natural tree post and get the rustic look. You can even have lugs welded to the bracket to pic up diagonal bracing, use your choice of wire, rod or box section.

 

[husq2100]

Matt, how do the termite bait stations work? I know they have a piece of timber in them, but is it treated? I also throught the idea to not kill them there in the station, but rather have them go back to base/nest and spread the "death" so to speak?

 

[MCW]

Matt, how do the termite bait stations work? I know they have a piece of timber in them, but is it treated? I also throught the idea to not kill them there in the station, but rather have them go back to base/nest and spread the "death" so to speak?

Brace yourself Serge It's not a simple process but here goes...

With bait stations an untreated piece of wood is placed in there first. The pest controllers do routine inspections and try to disturb the station as little as possible. Once any termite activity is noticed a piece of timber is then placed in the station that has been treated with an insect growth regulator.
Termites go through growth stages called moults and the different ages are called instars. A moult is where the termite sheds it's outer casing and as it does so grows. These moults are triggered by certain hormones that are timed with it's life cycle.
What the IGR's do is mimic this moulting hormone and trigger the insect to go into a premature moulting process. The thing with these synthethised hormones is that they run out before the moult has ended, leaving the insect basically hung up in it's casing where it dies, all distorted and seriously fuc*ed up. Under high magnification it is nothing short of horrific. We use a lot of IGR's in horticulture such as Dow Prodigy for Light Brown apple Moth and Dupont Altacor for Codling Moth in pome fruit (apples, pears, quinces).
The good thing with IGR's though is that they are insect specific. In integrated pest management you can take out one whole insect pest species and leave other insect families untouched. Some will affect Lepidoptera larvae only (moths, butterflies) and some will effect other species. All are very safe for humans although some of the solvent carriers in these formulations can be nasty for people.
The termites get a gutful of the treated wood then take it back to the nest and feed the queen and the others passing the IGR's around the nest.

As far as timber types go I agree with you. Some of the old blokes will say that termites won't eat this or won't eat that. Fact is that I've seen every single one of these species in our area (like Native Pine and Black Box) chewed out by termites despite what the old blokes have said. It probably had more to do with the DDT they soaked them in

 

[splitpost]

Chris,,, was that 245ci the slant 6 or the hemi, I seem to remember the hemi was 265 and the v8 was 318.

the green field,,, yea rebuild the old donk, except I know nothing about 4 strokes, I think it has an 8hp baby on it too..

245 hemi

 

[ausneil 1]

245 hemi

Yea, I forgot the slanty one was a 225.
We have a rusted out short wheel base 4x4 dodge here on the mill site, the property owner was given it and it gets used as a fire truck when burning bark piles from logging ect. She has a stant 6 in her but she must be older, however it has some pulling power in the bottom box with front diff engaged.

 

[ozflea]

Oh didn't you get some milage out of those Bob, how long ago now did I show you exactly how to join them and make a clutch. All 3 of those saws you screwed together are still virgin's Bob, they have not even touched a block with its teeth. But you told your internet fans you would beat everyone as you already have done with your other brute hotsaws.
Same ending with all 3 saws Bob, no result, no start, no one racing in Aust gives a sh#t .

Wasn't it you yes little ol you who spent countless time drooling all over the 101's and piddlin in my pocket about how they would outclass Poulson's twin 3120 you should recall since your memory is so clear and precise or is your memory starting to play tricks you even wanted to buy em but continued to rabbit on about maybe movin' to Qld and buying a sawmill.

By the way if your old man hadn't given you a hand your pair of 3120's might never had been ............. regards me copying you well who'd want to ?

Anyway Poulson finished off a lousey job you sold him the 3120's now show Kieth's great pride and attention to detail and fancy telling me that you could very easy psyhic him out at Dungog in 2008 surely the man
knows you and your ways well enough not to get too stressed over you.

I see you and Deano suffer the same terrible disease memory loss as regards me beating everyone I never have and I admit it like I always have ..... so it must be that short boy syndrome will you ever get to grow out of it ..... doubt it.

Your lovin' friend McBob.

Anyway your turn

 

[ozflea]

Hey TDI-RICK you got any pics of Brockies Holden powered Austin A-30 ..................

 

[husq2100]

Brace yourself Serge It's not a simple process but here goes...

With bait stations an untreated piece of wood is placed in there first. The pest controllers do routine inspections and try to disturb the station as little as possible. Once any termite activity is noticed a piece of timber is then placed in the station that has been treated with an insect growth regulator.
Termites go through growth stages called moults and the different ages are called instars. A moult is where the termite sheds it's outer casing and as it does so grows. These moults are triggered by certain hormones that are timed with it's life cycle.
What the IGR's do is mimic this moulting hormone and trigger the insect to go into a premature moulting process. The thing with these synthethised hormones is that they run out before the moult has ended, leaving the insect basically hung up in it's casing where it dies, all distorted and seriously fuc*ed up. Under high magnification it is nothing short of horrific. We use a lot of IGR's in horticulture such as Dow Prodigy for Light Brown apple Moth and Dupont Altacor for Codling Moth in pome fruit (apples, pears, quinces).
The good thing with IGR's though is that they are insect specific. In integrated pest management you can take out one whole insect pest species and leave other insect families untouched. Some will affect Lepidoptera larvae only (moths, butterflies) and some will effect other species. All are very safe for humans although some of the solvent carriers in these formulations can be nasty for people.
The termites get a gutful of the treated wood then take it back to the nest and feed the queen and the others passing the IGR's around the nest.

As far as timber types go I agree with you. Some of the old blokes will say that termites won't eat this or won't eat that. Fact is that I've seen every single one of these species in our area (like Native Pine and Black Box) chewed out by termites despite what the old blokes have said. It probably had more to do with the DDT they soaked them in

cheers Matt. Dow and Dupont hey, what pie dont they have their fingers in. Id hate to piss one of their higher ups off....imagine the chemical warfare they have stumbled across while trying to develop all their products. A scary thought.

I once heard that the aboriginals would boil up termites and eat them to terminate unwanted pregnacies?? Could be a load of BS, maybe you know??? Also is it true that termites themselves cannot diggest their food source, but have a parisite that does it or such?

 

[ozflea]

Morning Neil keep an eye on them there Termites you could be made redundant

Wait a minute I need to hang out me dirty washin'

Dedicated to Neil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2whGEvy13Ag

Might have to change me bait Neil

 

[Aussie Dave]

Morning Neil,just dont bother mate...must drive you

 

[ausneil 1]

Wasn't it you yes little ol you who spent countless time drooling all over the 101's and piddlin in my pocket about how they would outclass Poulson's twin 3120 you should recall since your memory is so clear and precise or is your memory starting to play tricks you even wanted to buy em but continued to rabbit on about maybe movin' to Qld and buying a sawmill.

By the way if your old man hadn't given you a hand your pair of 3120's might never had been ............. regards me copying you well who'd want to ?

Anyway Poulson finished off a lousey job you sold him the 3120's now show Kieth's great pride and attention to detail and fancy telling me that you could very easy psyhic him out at Dungog in 2008 surely the man
knows you and your ways well enough not to get too stressed over you.

I see you and Deano suffer the same terrible disease memory loss as regards me beating everyone I never have and I admit it like I always have ..... so it must be that short boy syndrome will you ever get to grow out of it ..... doubt it.

Your lovin' friend McBob.

Anyway your turn

So true Bobby, I did like those and I should of bought them and then done my own thing with them.
At first I thought you were some genuine knowledgeable guru who could teach me stuff I did not know,,,, I soon realised you were a frawd living off other guys who do know and resiteing what you pick up from them. I was totally shocked by what I saw in the raceing forums you were putting up, almost everything being total Bullsh#t and what was left just plain construded.
You are a poor excuse for a human being and the best move our association ever made was removeing you from the scene altogether.
The real reason you hate me is because I called your bullsh#tting bluff as that is all it is.
I cannot put up some of you lies from the old rac# forum as its gone but if it was I would show these good members the snott you deceived everyone with. You are wording things differently now day but still deceiveing members the same way.
Perhaps some one has copied some which will come to light.

Keith an I have been rivals since the late 80's, and I have raced him on countless accasions. He was at it long before me and he has never raced you ever. (he told me, in fact he didn't even know who you were) he knew most of the other racing guru's from that era like Keith fisher, Bill boyd, bull gill, cheeky stove, gordon Clarke, ian mobs, garry matherson, Kerry mckrevey, phil war, Ray brotherton, chris brown, bob munday clive brabam, I could go on and on and on and I know them all except Gordon clarke who I met through you.

That twin I built was a direct copy from keith fishers 181 twin built in the 80's, it was his design, my own father offered to make my clutch drum on his lathe (I since have inherited all his tooling) only because I did not have the time. the cage was made up by me and fitting and adjusting was done by me, in fact no one even knew it exsisted until I had tested, adjusted and tested many times until I was happy with it, then spent countless hours learning how to get the most out of it. The engine development was also done by me and I did not require countless emails or forum questions to do the job either. That'' di#k head ''is the difference between you and me, I have done these things and learned the hard way where as you just screw things together without any ability or race knowledge and just hope for the best which is of coarse a complete failure just like you.

 

[Rudolf73]

Soo I may have picked up an 064 last night... runs good but needs a few cosmetic parts. Please PM me if you have some old stuff under your bench.

 

[ausneil 1]

Morning Neil,just dont bother mate...must drive you

Yea Dave, I must of been replying while you posted. He is a complete nut case, harm less in person with a good collection of mac,s but a complete nut case just the same.
The stupid part on all this is this,,,,
Its ok to be un skilled in this sport, not everyone has what is required to be in the top 10, It can still be fun and rewarding as some of the guys are doing now, but constantly looking for new ways for attension is just wrong and utter nonscence.

It is no different to me saying I could still compete against any of the NRL footy teams, that would be just a joke,,,, bloody huge joke.

I have to get back on the job now.


Sorry Rudi, I do not have any 064 bits other wise you could have them.
Look into 066 bits like a cylinder / piston ect, I think they may just fit.

 

[ozflea]

So true Bobby, I did like those and I should of bought them and then done my own thing with them.
At first I thought you were some genuine knowledgeable guru who could teach me stuff I did not know,,,, I soon realised you were a frawd living off other guys who do know and resiteing what you pick up from them. I was totally shocked by what I saw in the raceing forums you were putting up, almost everything being total Bullsh#t and what was left just plain construded.
You are a poor excuse for a human being and the best move our association ever made was removeing you from the scene altogether.
The real reason you hate me is because I called your bullsh#tting bluff as that is all it is.
I cannot put up some of you lies from the old rac# forum as its gone but if it was I would show these good members the snott you deceived everyone with. You are wording things differently now day but still deceiveing members the same way.
Perhaps some one has copied some which will come to light.

Keith an I have been rivals since the late 80's, and I have raced him on countless accasions. He was at it long before me and he has never raced you ever. (he told me, in fact he didn't even know who you were) he knew most of the other racing guru's from that era like Keith fisher, Bill boyd, bull gill, cheeky stove, gordon Clarke, ian mobs, garry matherson, Kerry mckrevey, phil war, Ray brotherton, chris brown, bob munday clive brabam, I could go on and on and on and I know them all except Gordon clarke who I met through you.

That twin I built was a direct copy from keith fishers 181 twin built in the 80's, it was his design, my own father offered to make my clutch drum on his lathe (I since have inherited all his tooling) only because I did not have the time. the cage was made up by me and fitting and adjusting was done by me, in fact no one even knew it exsisted until I had tested, adjusted and tested many times until I was happy with it, then spent countless hours learning how to get the most out of it. The engine development was also done by me and I did not require countless emails or forum questions to do the job either. That'' di#k head ''is the difference between you and me, I have done these things and learned the hard way where as you just screw things together without any ability or race knowledge and just hope for the best which is of coarse a complete failure just like you.

Well its amazing what comes out in the wash young fella I thought you knew everything but looks like your just a copy cat not that theirs anything wrong with that don't we all there's a lot of saws around some good some not so good so imagine my horror when you said the Twin 3120 was all your idea mate you years too late to be saying that or I suppose history would only make a mug of you I have seen some pretty hairy stuff around some to make your 3120's look like featherweights I had a photo of twin 090's here but I must have deleted it or the twin Macs running twin ignition off one flywheel ... as I said theres little new stuff in saw racing but then I follow a bit of saw history and since your way too clever to ask you don't know ................ so who cares your just too smart for your own good ....

P.S Have a really nice day Neil and I still luvs ya

Is this Keith Fisher he's a Husky fella met him at Eden Bushman's Carnival in 1987 not certain if its him or not from memory he didn't get to beat to many Chris Brown was there as well a lot of the other I don't recall as it was my first time at Eden ............ Gordon was here at home last Friday on his way to some clay target shooting at Singleton .......... Do you know a Neville Jobson I have his saw a 101b powered saw that Gordon built back in the 80's as Gordon worked for Peter Dell as one of his engine builders on Karts what about old Darcy Peck from Sydney long gone now fell off a roof he was really good at copying all the yank engines then racing them



Ya old mate McBob.

Nutty maybe but not senile

 

[Karl Robbers]

I know what you mean mate but if you talk to any of the guys in the US they rarely have any problems. It's only international shipping where the problem lies so it's not exactly a numbers game in that respect.
Fact is that if you spoke to Brad Snelling for example he'd have had few issues with the 100 (1000?) or more times he's dealt with them.
The theory behind online shopping so to speak is that it's meant to be easy. That's why we do it. If option "A" is easier than option "B" then it isn't hard to work out where most people will go.
Over the years I've probably imported more golf gear than chainsaw gear. I was heavily involved in golf and had a heap of guys at other Riverland golf clubs getting me to import things for them.
Online freight pricing was basically smack bang what came in on the Fedex/USPS parcel sticker.

Don't get me wrong though mate and I've had the odd freight issue from other sponsors here too but rare.

Gregg and Baileys are great assets to AS, however their opposition to coming up with an overseas freight calculator is nothing short of a cop out. They have item weights loaded in their system, freight companies have cost calculators to work out how much it will cost to send from one postcode to anywhere overseas, so it's not exactly rocket science. Thousands of other online companies in the US have done it successfully.

Well, for what its worth, I have had a previously good association with Baileys. Their freight prices were high to say the least, but all up, the gear was substantially cheaper than buying locally. I say previously because the last order I put in, which was primarily small parts such as gaskets, seals and a couple husky seal pulling and installation tools was calculated at $276.00 freight. No problem I thought, there has been a mistake, so I emailed Baileys only to be told that this quote was in fact correct. I proceeded with the order as overall I still came out reasonable due primarily to the good price given on the Husqvarna Autotune software I purchased. I did however voice my disapproval at the cost of shipping as well as informing them that this situation would definitely affect further dealings with Baileys and asked that my concerns were passed on to management.
Upon checking my order status, I discovered that 3 items had been cancelled with no prior contact being made. Upon checking their website further, at least one cancelled item was in stock and good to go, albeit at 50% of the cost I had paid for the item already. I contacted Gregg and as always he sorted the issue promptly. Not the point though. How many stuff ups can you make in one order and how much can you overcharge for freight? I had received the week prior a Husky 562XP out of Massachusetts that was sent using the same service Baileys use. The cost? $170 There is no way that my order from Baileys would have weighed or measured the same as that saw.
I have already found a new supplier in the US if need be.
I don't want to bite the hand that feeds, Baileys is a valuable sponsor of this site after all, but there is something very wrong in the land of Baileys at present. I suspect managerial issues. I don't want to leave Baileys, I just want them to listen up and fix the problems.
I reckon Gregg must be so frustrated at having to fix all these stuff ups and give good service, I hope he starts up his own business soon. I for one would follow him.

 

[ozflea]

Well, for what its worth, I have had a previously good association with Baileys. Their freight prices were high to say the least, but all up, the gear was substantially cheaper than buying locally. I say previously because the last order I put in, which was primarily small parts such as gaskets, seals and a couple husky seal pulling and installation tools was calculated at $276.00 freight. No problem I thought, there has been a mistake, so I emailed Baileys only to be told that this quote was in fact correct. I proceeded with the order as overall I still came out reasonable due primarily to the good price given on the Husqvarna Autotune software I purchased. I did however voice my disapproval at the cost of shipping as well as informing them that this situation would definitely affect further dealings with Baileys and asked that my concerns were passed on to management.
Upon checking my order status, I discovered that 3 items had been cancelled with no prior contact being made. Upon checking their website further, at least one cancelled item was in stock and good to go, albeit at 50% of the cost I had paid for the item already. I contacted Gregg and as always he sorted the issue promptly. Not the point though. How many stuff ups can you make in one order and how much can you overcharge for freight? I had received the week prior a Husky 562XP out of Massachusetts that was sent using the same service Baileys use. The cost? $170 There is no way that my order from Baileys would have weighed or measured the same as that saw.
I have already found a new supplier in the US if need be.
I don't want to bite the hand that feeds, Baileys is a valuable sponsor of this site after all, but there is something very wrong in the land of Baileys at present. I suspect managerial issues. I don't want to leave Baileys, I just want them to listen up and fix the problems.
I reckon Gregg must be so frustrated at having to fix all these stuff ups and give good service, I hope he starts up his own business soon. I for one would follow him.

I understand your issues are like mine gross over quoting on shipping postage whatever no doubt you have left comments like I did on Baileys thread I mean a fella only wants to do business with Baileys not buy the UPS Postal service .................

 

[Rudolf73]

Just for you bob Mccullouch 250 Chainsaw

 

[ozflea]

Just for you bob Mccullouch 250 Chainsaw

I have a 160cc Victa engine like that an old tech school job .................. might be cheaper to cut one I have here but thank's anyway old mate

 

[David (saltas)]

Lorsban* 500EC Insecticide it is one of the types that was mentioned

there are more than 350 termite specie and some prefer sapwood of hardwoods. others like soft woods but will eat hard wood if it is damp and then there is out local species giant northern termite that eats wood, pvc, animal, mineral the lot.

you don't need to know which sort you have if you just want to nuke them.

You do need to know what type you have if you want to put wood in the ground as you can use a timber they don't prefer

 

[MCW]

cheers Matt. Dow and Dupont hey, what pie dont they have their fingers in. Id hate to piss one of their higher ups off....imagine the chemical warfare they have stumbled across while trying to develop all their products. A scary thought.

You're not wrong there mate. My Dow rep is excellent and probably the smartest chemical rep we have. He did his sums the other week and was proud to tell me that on a worldwide scale he represented 0.001% of Dow's global turnover
Hey funnily enough (and here I go off track again ) but a lot of the currently registered organophosphate insecticide active ingredients such as Methidathion, Azinphos Methyl, and Fenamiphos are actually just as toxic as the the nerve gasses the Germans developed in WWII such as Sarin, Soman, and Tabun. The major difference is that the nerve gasses are running solvents designed to penetrate the human skin and carry the active ingredient with it whereas agricultural chemicals are using solvents designed to NOT penetrate human skin. Our nervous system works exactly the same way as an insects so if we happen to get these chemicals into our bloodstream at a high enough concentration it's bye byes on a very quick scale, within minutes if you get a big enough dose.

I once heard that the aboriginals would boil up termites and eat them to terminate unwanted pregnacies?? Could be a load of BS, maybe you know??? Also is it true that termites themselves cannot diggest their food source, but have a parisite that does it or such?

The funniest thing about the aboriginals is that they used all sorts of things to abort unwanted pregnancies. Funny thing is that half the time they aborted the mother in the process
As far as termite digestion goes it's been a while but I think they colonise their nests with certain fungi to break down the cellulose in the timber so they can digest it. Similar process to ruminants to some extent. I could Google the answer but then I'd be like somebody else here

Lorsban* 500EC Insecticide it is one of the types that was mentioned.

Yeah Lorsban is the original form of Chlorpyrifos from Dow. There are a heap of generics out there after Lorsban came off patent so most people identify products by the active ingredient now.

you don't need to know which sort you have if you just want to nuke them.

Heh heh. Too true