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Been a while since I have on the the site. New forum looks great. Will take some getting used to. Tried to fix my avatar and old photo from old site is to big. Need to compress some how???????

Bob, like to growth under the nose. It will make the man one day. You must wax the curls like the old days.
 
Been a while since I have on the the site. New forum looks great. Will take some getting used to. Tried to fix my avatar and old photo from old site is to big. Need to compress some how???????

Bob, like to growth under the nose. It will make the man one day. You must wax the curls like the old days.

Don't worry Bigfella it gets waxed but the hot hair curler bothers me ............... must learn to toughen up
 
i usually grow a merv hughes for MOVEMBER been doing for a few years but dunno what happened this year ,seemed to get caught up in all sorts of other schit this year that I gave it a miss,sorry mo-bros..........
 
Evening gents
There has been a bit of shooting,gun stuff on here of late so i am going to add as well.
On the weekend i pulled a couple of rifles out for a play,shoot some groups, check zeroes ect.
Win Mod 70s with Maddco barrels in .243 with 1 in 12 twist 26'' long and .270WSM with 1 in 10 twist 24'' long.
Scopes are Leupold VXL 4.5 to 14 x 50
Stocks are made by Wild Dog Australia.

Loads for .243
Lapua brass
Nosler 70 grain ballistic tips .020' off the lands
Win 760 46 grains (hot load) for 3580 fps
CCI mag primers
or
Lapua brass
Barnes granades 62 grain .010' off lands
Win 760 47.5 grains for 3860 fps
Fed Mag 215 primers

.270WSM
Win brass
Combined Technology 130 grain ballistic silver tips .010' of lands
Win 760 61 grains for 3270 fps
CCI mag primers

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Centre target .243
Left .270WSM
at 150 yards

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So where do Remington sit, quality wise these days? In particular a 700VSF.
very hit and miss they have a LONG way to go to get back to the good old days .

go a howa tikka or even a savage now they have come a long way
 
If i was to start again with a factory rifle i would go Sako,not cheap but ya only get what you pay for.
But on the other hand may be better of going a custom rifle for the same money your going to get something that will shoot and what you wont.
 
Thanks deye223,

The only thing im not fussed about with the Tika is the black stock/stainless barrel combo that seems to be the most common. Any idea on what the different Sako models are like or mean? i.e 85, A1, L46 etc???
 
Im the same about the plastic stocks,there are to flexable try putting a bye pod on one and see what happens,i like laminated wood or fiberglass/kevlar stocks.
As the Tika rfles go i used one on a hunting trip in The NT not long ago and was supprise how it handled as a hunting rifle,shoot afew pigs with it.Its is compact,light and shot well

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Thanks deye223,

The only thing im not fussed about with the Tika is the black stock/stainless barrel combo that seems to be the most common. Any idea on what the different Sako models are like or mean? i.e 85, A1, L46 etc???

andrews right if you have the money i have been tossing up the idea of a custom long range 7mm mag but only have $3000 including stock so not enough
so i went and priced a tikka 7mm varmint and at around $1200 i have a chance of some good glass as well , i only need .5 moa so a factory gun will do
now in the sako numbers you have there are different models L46 being the oldest and 85 the youngest and the A1 is my favorite, someone correct me if i'm wrong please .
personally i wouldn't touch an 85 i hate there bedding system but thats just me

ps you can get laminated stocks from tikka but only for the sporter i think
 
I certainly like the Sakos and I've heard a number of Sako owners refer to Tikkas as the "poor man's Sako". As far as accuracy/reliability goes I'm yet to see any difference between either brand however the Sako's finish is no doubt better. It is not however $1200 better!
Tikka do make a varmint weight rifle with a stainless barrel and laminated stock but haven't seen them advertised for a while. They were up around $1800 and nearly looked like a benchrest rifle.
Some people like pretty rifles and some people like functional rifles. Personally I'd rather buy two Tikkas instead of one Sako 85. The $1200 saved from buying a Tikka over a Sako will buy a bloody good scope too.
The black Tikka stocks do have some forend flex but can't say it's a problem and it certainly doesn't seem to affect accuracy. Out of interest I talked my mate who was in the SAS into buying a T3 Lite in .25/06 a number of years ago. Some people may call BS but I can tell you now that his T3 with handloads was pulling the same sized groups at 100m and 200m as his Accuracy International sniper rifle in .308 on the SAS range at Swanbourne, WA. His Tikka and V2 Leupold cost $2000. The Accuracy International with Schmidt & Bender scope cost the Australian army around $15,000.
 
Out of interest I talked my mate who was in the SAS into buying a T3 Lite in .25/06 a number of years ago. Some people may call BS but I can tell you now that his T3 with handloads was pulling the same sized groups at 100m and 200m as his Accuracy International sniper rifle in .308 on the SAS range at Swanbourne, WA. His Tikka and V2 Leupold cost $2000. The Accuracy International with Schmidt & Bender scope cost the Australian army around $15,000.

Gee my guns are simple compared to you gentlemen, but what you get is what you pay for.

I was lucky enough to see this countries best sniper teams (quite few years back now) in action at Kempsey SSAA. It was our normal comp day but to our surprise the army was using the big bore range for training. I cannot remember names but seem to remember 6 or 7 teams training.
We all commented (some laughed) how they looked, laying out their blankets and hides etc., spotting scopes and other stuff.
We saw them do different things including some rapid fire from their service rifles. We were politely asked by our friendly (but getting a little pissed off) range officer were we going to actually do some target shooting. Some of use said not now and watched these very impressive men do their thing.
The 308 sniper rifles were awesome to see, how they set them up on the mound, one guy said the big toys were coming out later in the day but for some reason they never came out and we were disappointed.
My guess the noise and the fact they were almost centre of attention forced the decision to keep the 50's hidden.

One of the best SSAA days I went to.
 
The RAAF Airfield Defence Guards have their own sniper teams now or have had them for quite a few years handy to keep the enemy a little further from their bases plus their also part of the JTAC teams working with the SAS patrols marking targets for lazer guided missles and bombs
 
Gee my guns are simple compared to you gentlemen, but what you get is what you pay for.

I was lucky enough to see this countries best sniper teams (quite few years back now) in action at Kempsey SSAA. It was our normal comp day but to our surprise the army was using the big bore range for training. I cannot remember names but seem to remember 6 or 7 teams training.
We all commented (some laughed) how they looked, laying out their blankets and hides etc., spotting scopes and other stuff.
We saw them do different things including some rapid fire from their service rifles. We were politely asked by our friendly (but getting a little pissed off) range officer were we going to actually do some target shooting. Some of use said not now and watched these very impressive men do their thing.
The 308 sniper rifles were awesome to see, how they set them up on the mound, one guy said the big toys were coming out later in the day but for some reason they never came out and we were disappointed.
My guess the noise and the fact they were almost centre of attention forced the decision to keep the 50's hidden.

One of the best SSAA days I went to.

Nothing wrong with simple Neil I have a clunky old sportco that will shame most anything big dollar as long as I do my part 5 shot groups in the size of my little finger nail at 100 they spread a bit at 900 but still shoots plenty of centre bulls
 
thanks so far guys. I have no idea what the "bedding system" is, but will there be a difference between the Sako 85s and the Tikka T3s? For a first rifle, is .223 a good caliber choice? Should I be looking at others? Any reason not to go .222 or 22-250?
 
thanks so far guys. I have no idea what the "bedding system" is, but will there be a difference between the Sako 85s and the Tikka T3s? For a first rifle, is .223 a good caliber choice? Should I be looking at others? Any reason not to go .222 or 22-250?

I rate 22-250 but a bit of a barrel burner somthing to think of if you are doing a lot of shooting but i wouldent let that put you off one I'd have a 223 over the 222 only for the fact that if you are not reloading you may find it a pain to get 222 ammo and the 223 has a little higher velocity but if your reloading that becomes a bit of a mute point. As for the tikkas and sakos no idea haven't had either Somthing else to think of is 25-06 I think one of the flattest shooting calibers out there
 
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