the all aussie dribble thread!

[ozflea]

In Afghanistan the FAC (Forward Air Controllers) were all American and attached to the Australian SAS patrols. Reason being was that guiding in air strikes was their specialty, they knew how to communicate properly with the US Air Force, and the chance of dropping a bomb on friendlies was greatly reduced.

Your a bit behind the times young fella all Australian JTAC controllers are now under the control of the RAAF and are trained at Williamtown NSW


The Airfield Defence Guard (ADG) mustering of the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) performs specialist ground defence tasks to protect air power assets from hostile ground action.[1] The mustering is composed of non-commissioned members, commonly called 'ADGies,' most of whom are employed within an Airfield Defence Squadron (AFDS). Their primary role is the protection of RAAF equipment, personnel, assets and facilities during operations. While ADGs train to counter special forces as the primary ground threat to the projection of air power, ADGs are themselves conventional forces. Other duties include training RAAF personnel in weapons handling and basic ground defence tactics.

 

[ausneil 1]

it's a pump

Morning all,
Ok I had another look with my glasses on, sorry my mistake, I'm not an expert on guns.

In fact I'm not a good target / SSAA shooter either, I grew tired of it quick, shooting with a heap of guys and odd lady n kids was great fun but to me its not the same as hunting in the wild. I'm basically an off hand dinner plate shot at 100 yards bloke, I could hit that all day which gets me what I'm aiming for.
Not near as glamorous as a 10 cent piece shot the same distance but perhaps I am also only as good as the toys I own.

Matty 2,,, if I may, I turned your pic around and cropped it so I could see it. I think every cupboard has the bottom 22, I like that old no 5 on top, how much work has that barrel done, the ones I have seen tend to spray. I often use my no 4, but it shoots quite good for a bloody old 40's classic.

 

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Morning all

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[460cixy]

Morning all,
Ok I had another look with my glasses on, sorry my mistake, I'm not an expert on guns.

In fact I'm not a good target / SSAA shooter either, I grew tired of it quick, shooting with a heap of guys and odd lady n kids was great fun but to me its not the same as hunting in the wild. I'm basically an off hand dinner plate shot at 100 yards bloke, I could hit that all day which gets me what I'm aiming for.
Not near as glamorous as a 10 cent piece shot the same distance but perhaps I am also only as good as the toys I own.

Matty 2,,, if I may, I turned your pic around and cropped it so I could see it. I think every cupboard has the bottom 22, I like that old no 5 on top, how much work has that barrel done, the ones I have seen tend to spray. I often use my no 4, but it shoots quite good for a bloody old 40's classic.

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The no5 shoots like **** it really needs a new tube I brought it off a good mate that's now deceased so its a bit special for me I have a no4 as well in top condition and its a great shooter. And your right about the little Lithgow I don't think there was a house in Australia that didn't have one of those in the day and it still shoots great

 

[ozflea]

Since you fellas are so obcessed with powerful weapons of mass destruction ave a look at this handy weapon

 

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And his next vid is of him being remorsful after taking his sisters eye out or something FFS

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[460cixy]

Since you fellas are so obcessed with powerful weapons of mass destruction ave a look at this handy weapon

What a champ

 

[460cixy]

And his next vid is of him being remorsful after taking his sisters eye out or something FFS

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Can buy air soft and other bb style stuff from just about any corner store over there I was going to buy one to shoot the pigeons off the hotel roof and just leave it there as there's no way to get them back in the country

 

[tdi-rick]

My little Lithgow was my grandfather's who gave it to dad at 16 who presented it to me on my 16th. (And that was a very long time ago)

The thing is still a damned fine shooter, I love it.

 

[tdi-rick]

Big storm about to hit here.

It so nice to get rain, we had three inches last week and it put nothing in the river, the follow up is a real blessing.

 

[460cixy]

There so simple mine shoots well but shoots high with power points I'm hopeing to smash some rabbits with it old school

 

[ozflea]

I'm bored and all this talk about guns

 

[tdi-rick]

Your a bit behind the times young fella all Australian JTAC controllers are now under the control of the RAAF and are trained at Williamtown NSW

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Bob, how can Matt be behind the times when he stated what was done operationally recently in Afghanistan?

 

[ozflea]

as I said he behind the times maybe he needs a new watch

 

[ausneil 1]

My little Lithgow was my grandfather's who gave it to dad at 16 who presented it to me on my 16th. (And that was a very long time ago)

The thing is still a damned fine shooter, I love it.

Funny thing that Rick, mine (same as Matts) was my pops as well, I shot thousands of long rifle, shorts, bloody rat shot any brand, any time and any place. My 1st hand me down was a little scout, falling block 22 single shot, I have read some where they were referred to as ''boys rifles'', I still own that toy and it only ever sees daylight on inspection day.
Of interest on that scout, back during ww2, Sydney police came round to disarm the public, according to my late father, they simply came round and asked if resident's had any guns, my pop showed the officer a single barrel shot gun and the scout, then the policeman removed the firing pins and handed them back. My pop was a saw miller and had a nice workshop and made almost everything they needed so he simply made 2 new firing pins, same pin in that scout today and I have no idea of who ended up with the shot gun.
My own father was overseas at the time, in new Guiney.
just a little trivia folks...

There so simple mine shoots well but shoots high with power points I'm hopeing to smash some rabbits with it old school

If you are going to do that, you need some old low velocity bullets, the ones you can almost see lumbering up the paddock. (just like it used to be when they were new)

 

[460cixy]

I have some sub sonic target ammo and zeds for rodents but the subs are dear as poison at $25 for 50 so I. Not burning them off with the lithgow its dead on at 75 meters there abouts with the power points so just aim low and prey

 

[MCW]

Your a bit behind the times young fella all Australian JTAC controllers are now under the control of the RAAF and are trained at Williamtown NSW

Pretty sure you'll find that it depends on who is dropping the majority of the bombs. The American Forward Air Controllers (emphasise American, not Australian which may be where the confusion lies?) attached to the SAS patrols in Afghanistan were special forces trained and were just as fit as the SAS guys. There may have been some very recent changes but the Australian SAS guys used US FAC's because they were simply "better than us at doing that job". That quote was direct from the SAS.

 

[MCW]

as I said he behind the times maybe he needs a new watch

What time frame are you talking about here? Also your quote mentions nothing about Australian Special Forces and looks like it was copied from a website or something? It pretty well talks about Australian trained JTAC guys protecting Australian RAAF facilities from potential Special Forces' attacks.

What evidence do you have of Australian JTAC guys on patrol with Australian SAS in Afghanistan? I'm certainly not saying you're wrong in all cases, but in Afghanistan you're wrong unless very recent. I have photos of US FAC guys on patrol with the Australian SAS and have spoken to SAS guys about this. Granted they weren't in Afghaniland in the last few years which is why I'm asking how recent these changes were. Not arguing, just clarifying.

 

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I'm bored and all this talk about guns

What a loser

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[MCW]

Just spoke to my mate and the US FAC guys were originally attached to SAS patrols as the US Air Force are very particular about who guides their air strikes in after a few boo boos and innocent victims.
The Australian SAS now train their owns guys in house to guide US air strikes in and these guys are actually "qualified" up to US FAC standards.
Unless there have been changes in the last few years the RAAF JTAC guys have nothing to do with guiding in air strikes for SAS patrols.

My information sources and watch are fine Bob although my mate has been out of the SAS for a few years. He did say that things may have changed in the last couple of years but said it's highly unlikely that any RAAF guys would be attached to an SAS patrol in an area of operation like Afghanistan.