This is WEIRD!

[Jacob J.]

Also saw a rare homy stick shift being offered but you must buy at least 6 at a time to start the order..
That was a good chuckle but you might be surprised how many people believed it.

You mean I can't get six 770 stick shifts all at once??? ?????

 

[Jtheo]

I have had a number of my pictures used by others on eBay.

I would send them a message about it but no one ever answered, The pictures did go away though. There are some scams out there.

 

[sawbones]

You mean I can't get six 770 stick shifts all at once??? ?????

so,,, you sent the money but yours saws did not arive yet?

buy ya books, send ya to school...:monkey:

 

[Philbert]

I found this listing on ebay and noticed that the picture they are using to sell their saw is mine.

The seller is probably just lazy (as well as being a bit sleazy).

Go to Google, choose 'Images' from the top menu, and enter "McCulloch 7-10A" in the search window. I got photos of your saw (as well as several other A.S. posts!).

Maybe the guy just didn't want to take the time to take a photo so he picked one off the web. But I agree, he should have disclosed this, becasue the photos give a key indication of the saw's physical condition.

Philbert

(P.S. - NONE of the photos found in Google Images for 'Philbert' is me!, just in case anyone was wondering)

 

[crankster69]

I guess you should ask for a portion of the sale as compensation, right? For using your pic? Ask him for $25.

Seriously though, he should state this in his ebay listing that the pic is not the saw being sold.

Let us know what he says - should he respond.

 

[Work Saw Collector]

He answered my question and said it's not his picture or saw it's at the bottom of the listing now.

 

[stinkbait]

He answered my question and said it's not his picture or saw it's at the bottom of the listing now.

Yeah, I thought that he kinda got sh**y with his reply, but I told him that i had no issue with him using my pic, that he just needs to specify that the saw in the pic is not the acutual saw at all.

 

[blsnelling]

I emailed him about his Homelite and asked if that was his saw or if he stole that picture as well, lol. Here's his reply and then my final reply.

Hi there,

No, this is NOT my saw that I am selling however, this is the MODEL of the saw that I am selling and for reference purposes, this is what it looks like. I did NOT "steal" the photo, either. This photo comes up as a "STOCK" PHOTO under GOOGLE IMAGES when you type in the above-referenced information regarding the saw. GOOGLE "IMAGES" ALLOWED ME TO COPY IT and THE PHOTO DID NOT HAVE A BLOCKER ON IT nor does it have a copywright that I was/am aware of, which is the only way it would/could be considered "stolen." Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions or comments. Colleen Bollander, Esq.


- casabella126



You make no mention what so ever in your description that the saw you are selling is not the one pictured. That is fraudulant. The condition of the saw means a tremendous amount to the worth of the saw. This is not a trivial matter, especially to those of us that collect saws.


Thanks,
Brad Snelling

 

[stinkbait]

you make no mention what so ever in your description that the saw you are selling is not the one pictured. That is fraudulant. The condition of the saw means a tremendous amount to the worth of the saw. This is not a trivial matter, especially to those of us that collect saws.


Thanks,
brad snelling

+1

 

[sawbones]

If enough people hit the report button ebuy will knock it down eventually and collen will learn not to misrepresent her items for sale...

lack of disc space for pictures??? give me a break lady

how the heck do you know what you really are bidding on

 

[Paul001]

I emailed him about his Homelite and asked if that was his saw or if he stole that picture as well, lol. Here's his reply and then my final reply.

Hi there,

No, this is NOT my saw that I am selling however, this is the MODEL of the saw that I am selling and for reference purposes, this is what it looks like. I did NOT "steal" the photo, either. This photo comes up as a "STOCK" PHOTO under GOOGLE IMAGES when you type in the above-referenced information regarding the saw. GOOGLE "IMAGES" ALLOWED ME TO COPY IT and THE PHOTO DID NOT HAVE A BLOCKER ON IT nor does it have a copywright that I was/am aware of, which is the only way it would/could be considered "stolen." Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions or comments. Colleen Bollander, Esq.


- casabella126



You make no mention what so ever in your description that the saw you are selling is not the one pictured. That is fraudulant. The condition of the saw means a tremendous amount to the worth of the saw. This is not a trivial matter, especially to those of us that collect saws.


Thanks,
Brad Snelling

####ing Lawyers...always wanting to debate what the meaning of is, is.

 

[blsnelling]

Give me a break!!! This guy just doesn't get it!

Dear Mr. Snelling:

I disagree that my listing is "fraudulent" as I am NOT "deliberately deceiving, defrauding, cheating or "tricking" anyone in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain" with my listing. The saw referenced-above, is the EXACT MODEL of the saw that I am selling and for reference purposes, this is what it looks like. Typically, when prospective buyers see a photo vs. not seeing one, it is more helpful visually to those who are not chainsaw enthusiasts or "collector's." My computer will not allow me to download any photos as I am low/out of disc space and unfortunately, I did NOT think that it was relevant to mention my "woes" in my description. As previously mentioned, when typing in the saw's MAKE & MODEL NUMBER under "GOOGLE IMAGES" there are MANY PAGES OF PHOTOS of THIS SAW. I sorted through those images and chose the one that was the MOST SIMILAR and therefore, BEST REPRESENTED the saw that I am selling. I AM NOT "KNOWINGLY ADVERTISING A PRODUCT OR SERVICES THAT DOES NOT EXIST OR FUNCTION AS REPRESENTED NOR, AM I MISREPRESENTING THE SAW, THE MAKE, THE MODEL NUMBER,ITS CHARACTERISTICS, QUALITIES, SERVICES or FUNCTIONABILITY" et, al. or "trivializing," it in any way whatsoever thus, diminishing its value. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any additional questions or comments. Colleen Bollander, Esq.



- casabella126


When you show a picture of an item and don't mention that it's borrowed, you are indeed saying that the saw for sale is the one that's pictured. That is misleading to say the least. If you can't take your own pictures, then either don't list it or leave the pictures out.


Thanks,
Brad Snelling

 

[dbmatt]

Copyright

That picture is your intellectual property. The seller is stealing your copyrighted photo since you are taker of the photo and have not sold it to any "stock" image libraries. Secondly, a google image search is not stock photography. Just because you can download it dose not mean it is free. You can threaten to take them to court and have solid ground to stand on. I say, demand to be compensated for the use of your property. ...and to anyone looking to buy a saw, don't buy it from that seller. Their caviler use of others property indicates someone who is not afraid to call something the truth as long as it has a thread of truth.

Check out this quote from www.copyright.gov...
Is it legal to download works from peer-to-peer networks and if not, what is the penalty for doing so?
Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner's exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution. Anyone found to have infringed a copyrighted work may be liable for statutory damages up to $30,000 for each work infringed and, if willful infringement is proven by the copyright owner, that amount may be increased up to $150,000 for each work infringed. In addition, an infringer of a work may also be liable for the attorney's fees incurred by the copyright owner to enforce his or her rights.

 

[lewis16]

go to this page, youll see what hes done;

http://images.google.co.uk/images?g...7-10+automatic+chainsaw&sa=N&start=36&ndsp=18

 

[MotorSeven]

I just PM'd the guy with this:
"Hi I am interested in your saw, but I wll only bid if you can post actual photo's of the saw that is for sale. Thanks!"
I want to see if he can come up with pic's now that he is on the spot.

RD

 

[FamilyTradition]

Give me a break!!! This guy just doesn't get it!

Dear Mr. Snelling:

I disagree that my listing is "fraudulent" as I am NOT "deliberately deceiving, defrauding, cheating or "tricking" anyone in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain" with my listing. The saw referenced-above, is the EXACT MODEL of the saw that I am selling and for reference purposes, this is what it looks like. Typically, when prospective buyers see a photo vs. not seeing one, it is more helpful visually to those who are not chainsaw enthusiasts or "collector's." My computer will not allow me to download any photos as I am low/out of disc space and unfortunately, I did NOT think that it was relevant to mention my "woes" in my description. As previously mentioned, when typing in the saw's MAKE & MODEL NUMBER under "GOOGLE IMAGES" there are MANY PAGES OF PHOTOS of THIS SAW. I sorted through those images and chose the one that was the MOST SIMILAR and therefore, BEST REPRESENTED the saw that I am selling. I AM NOT "KNOWINGLY ADVERTISING A PRODUCT OR SERVICES THAT DOES NOT EXIST OR FUNCTION AS REPRESENTED NOR, AM I MISREPRESENTING THE SAW, THE MAKE, THE MODEL NUMBER,ITS CHARACTERISTICS, QUALITIES, SERVICES or FUNCTIONABILITY" et, al. or "trivializing," it in any way whatsoever thus, diminishing its value. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any additional questions or comments. Colleen Bollander, Esq.



- casabella126


When you show a picture of an item and don't mention that it's borrowed, you are indeed saying that the saw for sale is the one that's pictured. That is misleading to say the least. If you can't take your own pictures, then either don't list it or leave the pictures out.


Thanks,
Brad Snelling

What a bunch or horse puckey! Sounds like someone's a bit intimidated now that they've been taken to task. All a person has is their word to be judged by in life. I agree with Brad, if you're going to go to the effort to list a saw or any other item for that matter, make the effort to represent it accurately. Fraud, the best "four letter word" out there.

 

[buzz sawyer]

Stinkbait, If I win the auction, can I pick it up at your place to save on shipping?

 

[Philbert]

Had a similar experience. I asked:

Since you do not accept returns can you please post actual photos of the item being sold so that I can see the physical condition of the saw? This is very important in order to judge the condition and value of the item.
Thanks.

Got Back:

Thank you for your interest in my listing. The saw referenced-above, is the EXACT MODEL of the saw that I am selling and for reference purposes, this is what it looks like. Typically, when prospective buyers see a photo vs. not seeing one, it is more helpful visually to those who are not chainsaw enthusiasts or "collector's." My computer will not allow me to download any photos as I am low/out of disc space and unfortunately, I did NOT think that it was relevant to mention my "woes" in my description. I typed in the saw's MAKE & MODEL NUMBER under "GOOGLE IMAGES" and there were MANY PAGES OF PHOTOS of THIS SAW. I sorted through those images and chose the one that was the MOST SIMILAR and therefore, BEST REPRESENTED the CONDITION thus, the VALUE of the saw that I am selling. I AM NOT "KNOWINGLY ADVERTISING A PRODUCT OR SERVICES THAT DOES NOT EXIST OR FUNCTION AS REPRESENTED NOR, AM I MISREPRESENTING THE SAW, THE MAKE, THE MODEL NUMBER, ITS CHARACTERISTICS, QUALITIES, SERVICES or FUNCTIONABILITY" et, al. or "trivializing," it in any way whatsoever thus, diminishing its value. I apologize for any inconvenience this causes you or any other prospective buyers. If I was able to take and download photos, I would but, unfortunately I can NOT at this time. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any additional questions or comments. Colleen Bollander, Esq.

-casabella126

Must be sensitive now, as I did not mention any legal issues - just asked to see the actual saw.

Philbert

 

[stinkbait]

Stinkbait, If I win the auction, can I pick it up at your place to save on shipping?

Yeah, you can come and pic it up, but you can't leave with it. lol

 

[blsnelling]

That picture is your intellectual property. The seller is stealing your copyrighted photo since you are taker of the photo and have not sold it to any "stock" image libraries. Secondly, a google image search is not stock photography. Just because you can download it dose not mean it is free. You can threaten to take them to court and have solid ground to stand on. I say, demand to be compensated for the use of your property. ...and to anyone looking to buy a saw, don't buy it from that seller. Their caviler use of others property indicates someone who is not afraid to call something the truth as long as it has a thread of truth.

Check out this quote from www.copyright.gov...
Is it legal to download works from peer-to-peer networks and if not, what is the penalty for doing so?
Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner's exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution. Anyone found to have infringed a copyrighted work may be liable for statutory damages up to $30,000 for each work infringed and, if willful infringement is proven by the copyright owner, that amount may be increased up to $150,000 for each work infringed. In addition, an infringer of a work may also be liable for the attorney's fees incurred by the copyright owner to enforce his or her rights.

I kindly passed along this tid bit of intimidating info. Now "she" tells me she's actually a lawyer herself! Funny how she didn't even know copyright laws.