What are you guys doing per day??

[Sunrise Guy]

We charge 75-100 for a gutter cleaning, depending on the house of course. In spring and fall, it is easy for us to do 5-10 a day. They take about 15 minutes on average to do. Instead of having climbers clean gutters, we send two other guys who work part time, or aren't into climbing.

Firewood delivery is obviously a bigtime winter project. In the summertime we deliver mulch from all our tub ground waste wood. We charge by the yard, and believe it or not make a #### ton of mulch deliveries. Again, we have one or two guys doing this. They also go around doing some bush trimming, or some other bs landscaping crap our salesmen pitched.

Sometimes they spend half a day fixing some ruts in a lawn, or fixing up something that was missed by the other crews (which is quite rare).

Our two large crews stick basically to pruning, removals, cabling, and in the summer plant health care.

We have two crews (sometimes three) most of the guys here have families, and our bosses aren't a bunch of greedy, ignorant rednecks.

Please answer my question that I posted, earlier: What is the name of your company? After you answer that question, I'll have more. I'm sure we can all benefit from the wisdom you'll impart to us about the company you work for that makes "2000-3500 everyday throughout the entire year." At five days a week, that's $520G's to $910G's a year. I am very interested in how your company has gone about building up such a great business, in all honesty. I look forward to much more information from you. If you don't want to answer here, I'll be more than happy to PM you, so let me know. Thanks.

 

[Sunrise Guy]

IcePick, please answer my question.

I have seen that you are still posting in this thread, yet you haven't answered my very simple, basic question. I would appreciate an answer, ASAP. Thanks.

 

[jefflovstrom]

Please answer my question that I posted, earlier: What is the name of your company? After you answer that question, I'll have more. I'm sure we can all benefit from the wisdom you'll impart to us about the company you work for that makes "2000-3500 everyday throughout the entire year." At five days a week, that's $520G's to $910G's a year. I am very interested in how your company has gone about building up such a great business, in all honesty. I look forward to much more information from you. If you don't want to answer here, I'll be more than happy to PM you, so let me know. Thanks.

Seems about right to me, We got 10-12 guys year around and our norm is 1.2-1.5 million per year. This year we were down about 180k. Our Los Angeles guys are bigger than San Diego, not sure what they do.
Jeff

 

[Toddppm]

Damn Sunrise have you never seen a successful company? Like someone is supposed to answer to you to prove a point on the internets

 

[arbor pro]

It's difficult to assess what a crew should be making in a day w/out knowing their skill level and equipment available to them. Earlier this year Eric and I were shooting for a grand a day. As we've gotten better at working together and with the addition of our mini we now try to hit $1500 a day. Some days we only make a grand, some days we make $2500. Our best day this season was $3K. This is just 2 guys, 17 yard chip truck, 12 inch chipper, mini skid, 1 ton and trailer. With the addition of a small crane, bucket truck OR another guy I will up our goal to at least $2K a day.

With 2 guys, aerial lift and chip truck, I bid for $200/hr and try to get in 7 billable hours a day so the goal is $1400/day. Typical work day usually includes a couple of non-billable hours. Some days, I'll pull in $2k by working a longer day. My best is $3k working dawn to dusk with 3 guys. Of course, small pruning jobs that don't require the use of large equipment don't pull in as much. On those, I'm mostly looking at $65/hr for labor and small equipment including pickup and saws. I fire the chipper up for a half hour on those days so the equipment fee is minimal. On such days, I am lucky to break $1k/day.

Problem with my area is getting enough work to sustain that level of work. I'm just part-time and can find enough work to pull in $2500/week for 30 weeks of the year but I could never go full-time and expect to work 200 days a year at $1400/day - just not enough work to sustain it. If there was enough work, I'd be quitting my full-time job in a second.

Most of the full-timer's pull in about half as much as I do in a day because they've learned to work slow to sustain their volume of work. I can't believe how long it takes some crews to get jobs done around here. They apparently have no incentive to work hard or fast. I probably gross as much in a year working part-time as some guys do working their version of full-time.

AP

 

[Sunrise Guy]

Damn Sunrise have you never seen a successful company? Like someone is supposed to answer to you to prove a point on the internets

Yeah, that's exactly right! Someone IS supposed to answer me. If it walks like BS and talks like BS----------

 

[jefflovstrom]

Yeah, that's exactly right! Someone IS supposed to answer me. If it walks like BS and talks like BS----------

I guess I am confused a little. Are you saying that you have proof of BS? You know for a fact he is Lying?!
Jeff

 

[tree MDS]

One thing is for sure, if you have yourself convinced $800 bucks a day is all you can get, that's all you're likely to get. Not saying some areas arent different, but just sayin..

I know of people with probably half the guys Jeff has, that are grossing at least what he's claiming, if not more. It all depends on the magic formula I suppose. Some have all the pieces to make it work, others don't.

 

[Blakesmaster]

One thing is for sure, if you have yourself convinced $800 bucks a day is all you can get, that's all you're likely to get. Not saying some areas arent different, but just sayin..

I know of people with probably half the guys Jeff has, that are grossing at least what he's claiming, if not more. It all depends on the magic formula I suppose. Some have all the pieces to make it work, others don't.

Yup. Another thing to consider is are we talking what's made in an average work day, or are we talking what's being made averaged over a whole year? If I took my totals from this year and split them over 200 or so working days the figure per day isn't very impressive. But there's a lot of days we're done working at 10 am. ####, I haven't picked up a chainsaw in almost a week. That doesn't mean that Eric and I can't, on a normal workday, bring in $1500.

 

[jefflovstrom]

One thing is for sure, if you have yourself convinced $800 bucks a day is all you can get, that's all you're likely to get. Not saying some areas arent different, but just sayin..

I know of people with probably half the guys Jeff has, that are grossing at least what he's claiming, if not more. It all depends on the magic formula I suppose. Some have all the pieces to make it work, others don't.

I don't know if it's a magic formula . Pretty tough to get over $65 pmh these days. But, you get what you pay for.
Jeff

 

[tree MDS]

I don't know if it's a magic formula . Pretty tough to get over $65 pmh these days. But, you get what you pay for.
Jeff

I agree that it can't be easy. I'm just saying it's possible, is all.

 

[jefflovstrom]

I agree that it can't be easy. I'm just saying it's possible, is all.

That is what I was saying.
Jeff

 

[tree MDS]

I know I need to work on my business/myself, I'm not gonna go around blaming the local economy though. That said, I get $1500 regularly when we go out. I've been slowly trying to raise it to $1600 (easier math to do in the head, lol) The recession hasn't helped with that though!

 

[IcePick]

Seems about right to me, We got 10-12 guys year around and our norm is 1.2-1.5 million per year. This year we were down about 180k. Our Los Angeles guys are bigger than San Diego, not sure what they do.
Jeff

Last year we pulled in 1.2 mill, the year before that was about a mill. This past year I'm willing to bet we were around 1.5 mill.

You just gotta trudge through this economy and do your best. You have to be persistent and not worry about those things too much.

Our company is successful because everyone's working together, everyone is doing their job.

Besides on the job performance, we attend trade shows and communicate with other people inside and outside the industry. We've got some good family owned businesses handling our insurance and 401k plans.

We present ourselves well, we try to keep trucks clean, if we smoke it's never on a clients property (at least some of us accomplish that), we wear proper ppe, and we work our f$cking tails off until it hurts.

 

[IcePick]

That above post was directed at sunrise, not jeff. I'm not going to throw our company's name out onto a public forum to be ridiculed and called liars, I resepect them too much (most of the time!).

 

[Sunrise Guy]

That above post was directed at sunrise, not jeff. I'm not going to throw our company's name out onto a public forum to be ridiculed and called liars, I resepect them too much (most of the time!).

We're cool. I just responded to your pm. Get back to me when you can. Thanks.

 

[Sunrise Guy]

I guess I am confused a little. Are you saying that you have proof of BS? You know for a fact he is Lying?!
Jeff

What I was implying was that if someone won't answer a simple question like, "What company do you work for?" I get the feeling that the person is a BS artist. IcePick and I are pm'ing now, so everything's cool. I can respect someone's not wanting to go public with a company name, as long as I can dialogue with that person via pm's. If there's hesitancy there, then it's a very good bet that the person is simply blowing smoke, in here, when it comes to $$ figures. I've seen it over and over again. The last guy I "outed" in here for being a BS artist, disappeared overnight. In that case, I actually tracked down the guy's home address, his ISA certificate number and his company in Oregon. He was a liar, plain and simple. It doesn't matter how I found that out. These days, with all of the internet resources available, you can find out so much about a given individual it gets kind of weird. As for my motivation, it's part the challenge, part the final act of saying to myself, "I friggin' KNEW that guy was bs'ing in here!"

 

[Rickytree]

What I was implying was that if someone won't answer a simple question like, "What company do you work for?" I get the feeling that the person is a BS artist. IcePick and I are pm'ing now, so everything's cool. I can respect someone's not wanting to go public with a company name, as long as I can dialogue with that person via pm's. If there's hesitancy there, then it's a very good bet that the person is simply blowing smoke, in here, when it comes to $$ figures. I've seen it over and over again. The last guy I "outed" in here for being a BS artist, disappeared overnight. In that case, I actually tracked down the guy's home address, his ISA certificate number and his company in Oregon. He was a liar, plain and simple. It doesn't matter how I found that out. These days, with all of the internet resources available, you can find out so much about a given individual it gets kind of weird. As for my motivation, it's part the challenge, part the final act of saying to myself, "I friggin' KNEW that guy was bs'ing in here!"

Hey way to go dictective! Tons of people BS on here. Alot are just blowing smoke to make themselves feel better about themselves cuz they are so fat and lazy to go and do the real thing. Really what does it matter?

 

[jefflovstrom]

Jeff

 

[Sunrise Guy]

Hey way to go dictective! Tons of people BS on here. Alot are just blowing smoke to make themselves feel better about themselves cuz they are so fat and lazy to go and do the real thing. Really what does it matter?

"Dictective?" Was that intentional? Yeah, it does and doesn't matter, in the final analysis. I guess when I get home after busting my @## to make a few hundred dollars for the day, I get po'd reading about these guys supposedly making $3500 for a three-man crew, in a day. When all is said and done, I'm relatively happy with my income, but I couldn't stay in the trees if I didn't have investments, out there. As it is, I'm looking around at other options. When you combine daily aches and pains from climbing and hauling at 58, with not enough money to possibly make it worth it, it gives one pause to think. The big question is: What do I do next?