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I've got to respectfully disagree with Gavman - two pairs of jeans are nothing to a moving chain. Chaps or no chaps is up to you but don't fool yourself thinking an extra pair of jeans is protection from a running chainsaw. A false sense of security may be more dangerous than being bare legged. Ron
 
I took a chainsaw course last week. I'm thinking you are better to find someone who will give you pointers on your site or his?hers. We weren't even allowed to start the saws but in the end we did start one. They weren't allowed to have gas in them inside the building. Pretty much just a piece of paper.
 
Like others have stated, it would be in your best interest to take a safety course and learn the correct way to use a chainsaw. One slip up with a chainsaw and all your good intentions are down the drain. Those logs aren't going any where.

Thats not bad advice. I know you can take a corse with the state DEC and get safety saw certified. My snowmobile club requires any volunteers that are going to run saws to have this cert. I't would probably be a good course for a beginer and its more than a piece of paper, you actually make cuts and whatnot.

BTW since you are working from a pile of logs, one thing that might not be apparent to you yet is the dangers from logs rolling off the pile. You dont necessarly have to pull each log off at a time from the pile and cut it, you can cut them on the pile but you have to be carefull they dont shift and roll down. If your more comfortable rolling them off one at a time and cutting it up then that is what you should do. If you get "that feeling" dont proceed in the face of uncertainty, stop and ask someone or modify your strategy to work safer.
 
Axe wedges (k&h, red head) are my picks. Boots, glasses, and ear plugs. Gloves to handle the wood with.
 
There's anti-vibe gloves on Baileys, but any old gloves work just fine. Not wearing chaps makes you think twice about things. Make sure you watch the cut and if it starts closing get outta there, you'll see...good luck
 
The person that mentioned 2 pair of blue jeans is ridiculous. Those 2 pair of jeans will just help soak up the blood once its to late. Get some chaps. Labonville is cheap on baileys and they fit great, I got the full wrap and love them. Don't ever become comfortable cutting and try to always cut with someone.
 
Thats alot of money on safety gear, you could easily forgo most of that, even the chaps, wear two pairs of jeans...


Wow. I sure hope you were being sarcastic when you wrote this reply! If not, this is the worst piece of advice I have ever seen on AS! And there has been some really bad stuff, let me tell ya! There is no way in God's creation that 2 pair of pants will be any help stopping a moving saw chain!

To the OP, if you are cutting off of a pile, you might want to consider getting a hookeroon or pickeroon. They look like an axe but have a pointed end on it instead of a bit. Bailey's has them and they are really handy!! Good luck and take care!

Oh yeah, welcome to AS also!

Ted
 
take a course, read everything you can, learn from someone who knows...only you know which works best for you, but do one of those three. and for heaven's sake, don't be in a hurry...or get frustrated...just roll with it. like has been said, those logs ain't going anywhere, so try to be smart about this.

at the end of the day though, you'll have to just get started and learn from your mistakes...so make small mistakes and be patient. good idea to maybe buy a cheap under-powered saw, and leave your ego in the house.

to answer your question though...you need a chainsaw and a splitting maul/axe. safety gear makes sense. start small, be safe, have fun, good luck.

ps-in my opinion, no one should be able to rent or use a power splitter until they have bleeding hands from operating a 10lb maul all day. cheers!
 
Wow. I sure hope you were being sarcastic when you wrote this reply! If not, this is the worst piece of advice I have ever seen on AS! And there has been some really bad stuff, let me tell ya! There is no way in God's creation that 2 pair of pants will be any help stopping a moving saw chain!

To the OP, if you are cutting off of a pile, you might want to consider getting a hookeroon or pickeroon. They look like an axe but have a pointed end on it instead of a bit. Bailey's has them and they are really handy!! Good luck and take care!

Oh yeah, welcome to AS also!

Ted
I was, just going for the chuckle effect.....
 
0525121543a.jpg 0203120808.jpg 0520121108.jpg 0825111307.jpg Welcome! Lots of good comments from experienced people.
So here is the picture, new to using a saw, and large log pile. Hmm!
Where do you live? I'm asking because just picking up a chain saw and starting can be very dangerous without someone to demonstrate and give you pointers. First off read the saw manual a couple times. Do not cut with, or near, the tip of the bar. Which means don't stick it in a pile of logs.
Tools: A jig to clamp on the bar for sharpening. You want to keep it sharp. Get used to touching it up ever time, or every other time you cut. Two three strokes. The jig makes it easier to do each tooth the same. It is safer, and just a part of what your getting into.
Chaps: use them.
Boots: wear a high ankle boot, at least with a steel toe. But as pointed out before your foot is not protected... except by your brain! Use it, your brain, by not using your foot within a foot (12") of the bar, and never even close to being in line of the bar.
Hook-a-roon: This is a 32" pole with a 2" barb on the end of it.(photo of part of it) Good chance the log pile is going to be 4' to maybe 8' high. Use the hook-a-roon from the sides of the pile to straighten and roll logs off the pile safely, or should I say more safely.
safety: Pull the logs away from the pile to cut. I prefer a peavy to a cant hook for working a pile as generally there is more prying than using the hook to roll stuff. A peavy has a point, a cant hook has an angled tooth on the tip of it. If tired stop, drink some water, take a few minutes to look things over, keep work area picked up and clear of cuts, pet the dog, whatever. I like to work alone in the work area. No kids, no other person to keep track of where they are, or what they are doing. No one reaching down and picking up wood as your cutting, or pulling logs down while your cutting. You do want someone around the house checking on you from a distance once in a while however. Oh, and get used to using the saws chain brake. If you are cutting a log and finish, then set the brake before stepping or walking with the saw to cut another log. You will quickly find your feet and ankles are constantly turning, twisting catching on nubs and things. Sometime you go to move and your foot catches and you go down instead. Use the brake, remove your finger from the trigger between cuts, even if it is only a step or two. When your done cutting , pull any questionable logs in the pile down so it is safer when your not around.
It is going to take you awhile to cut seven cord. Start slow, and enjoy the learning process. As a side note, you could build a cut table about 30" high. The advantage is cutting at a comfortable height eliminating back strain, and cutting uniform length rounds without measuring, and keeps you chain out of the dirt. The disadvantage is lifting the logs, one end at a time, onto the cut table, assuming your logs are not over 8' long. Using the cut bench I cut half a cord, then split half a cord. There are no stupid questions, so keep asking... We like pictures...
 
I forgot to mention, you dont need a tape measure and marker to measure out your cuts. Take the tape and measure on your saw from tip of your bar back towards the bar nuts. Find a reference point on your saw thats consistent with the length of the wood you want to cut and then use that to estimate where to make your cut. This will be very useful and will be the least time consuming method to get consistent lengths. By the end of the day you wont need to check, you'll be able to eyeball your cut and be within an inch in either direction.
 
first aid kit
you need muscle
food-drink you know bacon,pie,beer,water
chainsaw
fuel/bar oil spare file/chain
cellphone
lots of patience and common sense
safety glasses, ear protection.
 
You don't have to give your address, but if you adjust your profile to give a generalized location of where you live, there may be a member close to you who will take you under their wing & help you get started safely & efficiently. Most members enjoy sharing/helping others who want to learn.

Charity cuts & GTG/G2G (get to gathers) are also great opportunities to learn.

A lot of good points already given so i won't repeat them.

A couple of 8-10" logs can be placed length ways in front of the log pile to roll logs onto so you can cut without putting the bar/chain in the dirt.

Learn to read how the wood will move as you cut it to help prevent pinching the bar or having the wood shift to where you get hurt.
- If you are cutting a piece where the end is hanging over a support, the cut will open as you cut it. = cut from the top.
- If the piece you are cutting is supported on both ends then the wood will probably sag as you cut it closing the cut. So you can cut from the top part ways but will need to finish the cut from the bottom. As soon as the cut starts to close, switch to the under cut.

For your saw I won't make any recommendations but for maintenance:
- Make sure you are using mixed fuel. There are lots of threads on the subject, but I would not use a 50:1 or lower ratio. 40:1 or 32:1 are generally accepted by most members on this forum.
- Refill the bar oil every time you refuel.
- Sharpening. Again lots of great threads. I think one of the simplest & easiest is to use a Stihl 2n1 or Pfred cs-x file system. Look for a video on YouTube. It will set the raker/depth gauge height while sharpening the cutter. Just let them know the size of chain you are using to get on the right files in it. A sharp chain makes all the difference! If you are having trouble sharpening the chain, most dealers will sharpen them for a reasonable price. A spare chain or 2 are real handy.
 
One of the best safety items is a buddy with a cell phone. When using your chainsaw keep your thumb wrapped around the handle. If it kicks back it will just push your hand back with it. If you have your hand loose on the grip, or thumb sticking out side ways, the saw will kick back leaving your hand out in space as the chain runs over your knuckles. I have a couple plastic wedges and they are a day saver when you need them. However I haven't had to use one in years. I hate having to stop work and sharpen saws, or change chains for that matter. If you only cut 3/4 of the way through you won't have a pinching problem or dull your chain by hitting the ground. With a buddy and 2 cant hooks you can roll a mighty big log over, much bigger than you get in a load of logs. Good advice repeated, keep your face in a different plane from your bar and chain. A kick back can be straight back or up, and it happens like shooting a big hand gun, very fast. So don't stand straddling your cut, you don't want to be looking straight down the cut the saw is making. I don't mean straddling the log, that would be silly. You don't want the body of the saw centered in your body. Good luck and have fun, Joe.
 
Wow. I sure hope you were being sarcastic when you wrote this reply! If not, this is the worst piece of advice I have ever seen on AS! And there has been some really bad stuff, let me tell ya! There is no way in God's creation that 2 pair of pants will be any help stopping a moving saw chain!

To the OP, if you are cutting off of a pile, you might want to consider getting a hookeroon or pickeroon. They look like an axe but have a pointed end on it instead of a bit. Bailey's has them and they are really handy!! Good luck and take care!

Oh yeah, welcome to AS also!

Ted
they make jeans out of Kevlar in canada
 
Not to throw stones at Gavman but if you need to ask about things you need, you must not do very much wood so I'd invest in a good pair of chaps. Two pairs of jeans is only going to let that chain dig in a little deeper. Even a cheap pair of chaps is better than none.

Also get your self a few of them plastic wedges and if you cut in to the load of logs, watch the tip of that bar so you don't get kick backs....




Thats alot of money on safety gear, you could easily forgo most of that, even the chaps, wear two pairs of jeans...
 

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