hornett22
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i need the money sometimes to.
but i NEVER top trees.never.
but i NEVER top trees.never.
What to do - topping???
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ropensaddle
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What about pollarding for view with a maintenance schedule
I have some ask for view purposes and the poa allows topping
or pollarding but no removals can you say catch 22?
Canyonbc
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POA...is this HOA...Home Owner Association.
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
Property owners association
Canyonbc
Addicted to ArboristSite
Gotcha thanks for the clairfication...
I agree a Catch 22...
Always can just walk away, and leave it to some body else.
My question is what do you do..when you get a call top a tree that has already top.???
I agree a Catch 22...
Always can just walk away, and leave it to some body else.
My question is what do you do..when you get a call top a tree that has already top.???
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
That would be another catch 22 and short of removing crossing
branches and weak attached branches you will probably end up
pollarding anyway!
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
The way I have looked into it is I document what I tell the
customer try to come up with the best solution and bottom
line I am in business and have bills.
customer try to come up with the best solution and bottom
line I am in business and have bills.
Treetom
ArboristSite Guru
Take the whole tree out.
I'd explain all the ramifications of topping and suggest removal for another fifty bucks.
I'd explain all the ramifications of topping and suggest removal for another fifty bucks.
OTG BOSTON
Addicted to ArboristSite
There are many exceptions.
Too much of the "anti-topping" campaign is a bad thing. If you say you will never do it, you are limiting yourself as an arborist.
The tree in the foreground is over 200 years old, if this tree hadn't been reduced over the years it would have blown over a long time ago.
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
Agreed although arguments could be made in that high traffic
area may be better off without falling sucker growth!!!!!!!!
treesquirrel
ArboristSite Guru
You absolutely did the right thing. I will not top either. I will suggest complete removal, crown reduction, or trimming off some weight on worrysome leads but will not top a tree.
OTG BOSTON
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there isn't any "falling sucker growth". I am more concerned with the old cavity fills..........
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
there isn't any "falling sucker growth". I am more concerned with the old cavity fills..........
I would be more concerned with the way it looks and limbs
falling from weak attachments but thats me!
OTG BOSTON
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Looks great in leaf, most people wouldn't know what they are looking at anyway. This is a high maintenance style of pruning and the trees need to be monitored carefully. My basic point is not all topping is bad, if you think it is you are sadly mistaken. There are no absolute rules when it comes to tree preservation!
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
I am just debating and yes a tree worker having only one card
is going to get left behind preservation is sometimes not the
best card to endure especially when comes to the beauty.
Historical trees however get much attention spent on prolonging
life of the tree rather than beauty of the trees! Maintenance of
those type are constant and costly so are out of the budget of
average homeowner.
Slvrmple72
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Good for you! Make every effort to educate the homeowner on the choices available to them with regards to tree care and stand your ground on the principle reason we do this for a living... the piles of money, oops! I mean the care and respect for trees. Boston and Clearance make good points that you can never say never. I have discovered that there is an exception to just about anything but it is the well-educated and much-experienced individual who knows when that exception needs to be utilized.
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
One of the easiest ways to think is what would I do if it were
my tree, of course you need to be armed with education and
many years experience to realistically make that judgment.
It is however a barometer I always go by in any customer
advise and all info must be used to come to the best solution
for your customer.
my tree, of course you need to be armed with education and
many years experience to realistically make that judgment.
It is however a barometer I always go by in any customer
advise and all info must be used to come to the best solution
for your customer.
Thillmaine
ArboristSite Operative
Nice tree
I know who "pruned" that tree. It does look awesome in full leaf.
I know who "pruned" that tree. It does look awesome in full leaf.
Canyonbc
Addicted to ArboristSite
I take tops out of trees all the time and they are usually dead. Is this wrong? I cut it down past the dead or diseased wood to a live upright or lateral branch. After that I check the root system and evaluate the tree to find the reasoning behind die off at the top. I have saved many of trees by topping.
I have a job we just did this week for a customer who had a red oak, perfectly healthy. Snapped directly in half at about 40ft. I inspected the breakage on the lady's smashed in two level deck and kitchen floor where it lay. No sign of any faults. A very healthy tall oak. The tree was snapped by 50mph gusts. The reason this tree failed is because the builder cleared the back yard but left a few trees. These trees that were once protected in the forest suddenly became standing tall with no barrier of other trees. In other words, they lived a long and healthy life in one place only to be taken out of their enviroment. Could this tree adjust to the need of being tall and skinny reaching for sunlight to now having plenty of sun and plenty wind? The answer was no, the tree failed. If this tree was grown in the enviroment it is now it would of been stronger, thicker and shorter naturally. Topping would of not been needed. However, topping would of saved this tree in this scenario. Also proper residential forestry management should of been consulted with me prior to the homeowner/builder selecting which trees were to stay before they built the house. That tree would either of been kept in a cluster of the others around it or removed completely.
After we cleaned up the storm damage I provided her with an evaluation of the rest of her property and we deciding on topping(I call it reducing) one non-dominant stem due to the lean hanging over her kids playset. If I removed the stem completely at the base on the dominant stem it would likely be an invitation for decay. So in this case, as some have mentioned, topping is sometimes needed in rare instances.
I have a job we just did this week for a customer who had a red oak, perfectly healthy. Snapped directly in half at about 40ft. I inspected the breakage on the lady's smashed in two level deck and kitchen floor where it lay. No sign of any faults. A very healthy tall oak. The tree was snapped by 50mph gusts. The reason this tree failed is because the builder cleared the back yard but left a few trees. These trees that were once protected in the forest suddenly became standing tall with no barrier of other trees. In other words, they lived a long and healthy life in one place only to be taken out of their enviroment. Could this tree adjust to the need of being tall and skinny reaching for sunlight to now having plenty of sun and plenty wind? The answer was no, the tree failed. If this tree was grown in the enviroment it is now it would of been stronger, thicker and shorter naturally. Topping would of not been needed. However, topping would of saved this tree in this scenario. Also proper residential forestry management should of been consulted with me prior to the homeowner/builder selecting which trees were to stay before they built the house. That tree would either of been kept in a cluster of the others around it or removed completely.
After we cleaned up the storm damage I provided her with an evaluation of the rest of her property and we deciding on topping(I call it reducing) one non-dominant stem due to the lean hanging over her kids playset. If I removed the stem completely at the base on the dominant stem it would likely be an invitation for decay. So in this case, as some have mentioned, topping is sometimes needed in rare instances.
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