60 minutes, $300.00

[spacemule]

Good move space.. wait for the CHAMP to go to bed then post

I worked late tonight.

 

[spacemule]

WTF ??
You sound like the kinda guy that urinates all over the toilets in public places.
What A Freak !!!

Why do you say that? Was the shock value a little too much for you? Did you have to stop and think that maybe we have to separate "good" work from "bad" work and quit lumping them all together?

 

[kevinj]

Whatcha talking about? Shouldn't Thal be talking up folks who are in the spouse raping sideline business with no liscense?

Why do you say that? Was the shock value a little too much for you? Did you have to stop and think that maybe we have to separate "good" work from "bad" work and quit lumping them all together?

Spouse raping sideline business ???

Is that something normal from where you come from ??

Abu Dahbi ? Or whatever it is ?


:looser:

 

[spacemule]

Spouse raping sideline business ???

Is that something normal from where you come from ??

Abu Dahbi ? Or whatever it is ?


:looser:

Yes, of course. That's a completely normal business here in Abu Dahbi. In fact, talking about a normal business illustrates my point nicely. :bang:

 

[spike60]

Thall is Elvis.

He's still alive? I just knew it!!

 

[joatmon]

The Champ

Leesburg, Leesburg, we love your chosen son,
He’s Ali and he’s Elvis, all rolled into one,

For if you need a Stihl, he has the place to go,
When he’s finished sellin’ you, nothin’ left to know,

He’ll put that big arm round you and infect you with his grin,
And you’ll gladly buy that saw because it’s a win, win,

Now if you think your tree removal for you is too big,
Ole Thall’s the man who’s ready to take on a weekend gig,

He’ll come on out on Sunday for a hundred bucks a tree,
Compared to quotes from the big boys, it seems nearly free,

He’ll lay the ole tree over, not clean up the mess,
But with the money on your hip, it seems to be the best,

Now if you hear the two stoke sound on a Sunday morn,
Come on over and help him, but first he’ll have to warn,

We’ll cut the tree together, I promise you’ll have fun,
But you’re not an employee, end of job we’re done,

I do not have a license to do this kind of work,
No insurance or no bond, or other kind of perk,

At the end of cuttin’, there’ll be no 1099,
And with all the fun you’ll have, I’m sure you’ll never mind,

‘Cause it’s all about working, it’s the American way,
Most of us would do it, regardless of the pay,

When G0D made women after He made a man,
He seemed to have something in the way of a plan,

That man would be the one to take care of his family somehow,
Usually in this world it’s done by the sweat of his brow,

‘Cause in this ole world we often ask the question, “Why?”,
We spend a few years on this planet and then we simply die,

But when a man lies his head on the pillow in the night,
Laying there helpless, he often considers his plight,

He becomes aware of his muscles because of the many aches,
And then he comes to realize exactly what it takes,

To make the world a better place, to do what he can,
Working to support his family and help his fellow man,

Now when ole Thall’s work is done and he leaves this place,
We’ll be sad, can’t talk to him or even see his face,

But when we talk to them all, so many that were his friend,
We’ll know that he’s no longer here, but his life did not end.

 

[04ultra]

Leesburg, Leesburg, we love your chosen son,
He’s Ali and he’s Elvis, all rolled into one,

For if you need a Stihl, he has the place to go,
When he’s finished sellin’ you, nothin’ left to know,

He’ll put that big arm round you and infect you with his grin,
And you’ll gladly buy that saw because it’s a win, win,

Now if you think your tree removal for you is too big,
Ole Thall’s the man who’s ready to take on a weekend gig,

He’ll come on out on Sunday for a hundred bucks a tree,
Compared to quotes from the big boys, it seems nearly free,

He’ll lay the ole tree over, not clean up the mess,
But with the money on your hip, it seems to be the best,

Now if you hear the two stoke sound on a Sunday morn,
Come on over and help him, but first he’ll have to warn,

We’ll cut the tree together, I promise you’ll have fun,
But you’re not an employee, end of job we’re done,

I do not have a license to do this kind of work,
No insurance or no bond, or other kind of perk,

At the end of cuttin’, there’ll be no 1099,
And with all the fun you’ll have, I’m sure you’ll never mind,

‘Cause it’s all about working, it’s the American way,
Most of us would do it, regardless of the pay,

When G0D made women after He made a man,
He seemed to have something in the way of a plan,

That man would be the one to take care of his family somehow,
Usually in this world it’s done by the sweat of his brow,

‘Cause in this ole world we often ask the question, “Why?”,
We spend a few years on this planet and then we simply die,

But when a man lies his head on the pillow in the night,
Laying there helpless, he often considers his plight,

He becomes aware of his muscles because of the many aches,
And then he comes to realize exactly what it takes,

To make the world a better place, to do what he can,
Working to support his family and help his fellow man,

Now when ole Thall’s work is done and he leaves this place,
We’ll be sad, can’t talk to him or even see his face,

But when we talk to them all, so many that were his friend,
We’ll know that he’s no longer here, but his life did not end.

.

 

[Woodie]

What's Spanish for ground pounder?

I've pretty much tried to stay out of this one for two reasons:

1. I don't have a dog in the fight
2. I remember Tom's sloped backcut all too well, and does this look eerily similar to anyone else??
3. It's gotten pretty ugly in here, and that's not necessary and it's not cool
4. Math is not my stong suit

But I have to weigh-in here, because I finally do have something to add:

I believe the answer to the above is "la ground pounder."

 

[Log Splitter]

I've pretty much tried to stay out of this one for two reasons:

1. I don't have a dog in the fight
2. I remember Tom's sloped backcut all too well, and does this look eerily similar to anyone else??
3. It's gotten pretty ugly in here, and that's not necessary and it's not cool
4. Math is not my stong suit

But I have to weigh-in here, because I finally do have something to add:

I believe the answer to the above is "la ground pounder."

All good points, Wood_Newbie. I'm still staying out, even though I found reading all 18 pages interesting. But I did add to Thall's rep.

 

[THALL10326]

Leesburg, Leesburg, we love your chosen son,
He’s Ali and he’s Elvis, all rolled into one,

For if you need a Stihl, he has the place to go,
When he’s finished sellin’ you, nothin’ left to know,

He’ll put that big arm round you and infect you with his grin,
And you’ll gladly buy that saw because it’s a win, win,

Now if you think your tree removal for you is too big,
Ole Thall’s the man who’s ready to take on a weekend gig,

He’ll come on out on Sunday for a hundred bucks a tree,
Compared to quotes from the big boys, it seems nearly free,

He’ll lay the ole tree over, not clean up the mess,
But with the money on your hip, it seems to be the best,

Now if you hear the two stoke sound on a Sunday morn,
Come on over and help him, but first he’ll have to warn,

We’ll cut the tree together, I promise you’ll have fun,
But you’re not an employee, end of job we’re done,

I do not have a license to do this kind of work,
No insurance or no bond, or other kind of perk,

At the end of cuttin’, there’ll be no 1099,
And with all the fun you’ll have, I’m sure you’ll never mind,

‘Cause it’s all about working, it’s the American way,
Most of us would do it, regardless of the pay,

When G0D made women after He made a man,
He seemed to have something in the way of a plan,

That man would be the one to take care of his family somehow,
Usually in this world it’s done by the sweat of his brow,

‘Cause in this ole world we often ask the question, “Why?”,
We spend a few years on this planet and then we simply die,

But when a man lies his head on the pillow in the night,
Laying there helpless, he often considers his plight,

He becomes aware of his muscles because of the many aches,
And then he comes to realize exactly what it takes,

To make the world a better place, to do what he can,
Working to support his family and help his fellow man,

Now when ole Thall’s work is done and he leaves this place,
We’ll be sad, can’t talk to him or even see his face,

But when we talk to them all, so many that were his friend,
We’ll know that he’s no longer here, but his life did not end.

Man oh man oh my, ya just keep getting better and better. You are a artist my friend, keepem coming..

 

[04ultra]

Tommy You da man!!!!! I dont care what anybody says......



.

 

[THALL10326]

I've pretty much tried to stay out of this one for two reasons:

1. I don't have a dog in the fight
2. I remember Tom's sloped backcut all too well, and does this look eerily similar to anyone else??
3. It's gotten pretty ugly in here, and that's not necessary and it's not cool
4. Math is not my stong suit

But I have to weigh-in here, because I finally do have something to add:

I believe the answer to the above is "la ground pounder."

Newbie its not gotton ugly, whatcha talking about. Hasn't anything been said I can't handle and I think I've been pretty cool in my replies. If ya referring to Tree and me shoot we have been jawing like that for years. He don't pay any mind to me and I sure as hell don't pay any mind to what that ole fool has to say. We just having some fun so relax Woodie, tant no biggie at all. Join in, take a side and get in here. Heck you and me haven't fought a good round in a long time. Clear ya geezer and post something, I'll reply back to ya like I always do.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr gotta run, another Stihl is about to leave the house............

 

[THALL10326]

Bingo

Just sold a big FS250R trimmer to lady. She's taking it home to give the farm help to do the fences. Driving a big brand new SUV. Where in the world do these people get all this money around here, side jobs I bet,LOL

 

[kevinj]

Just sold a big FS250R trimmer to lady. She's taking it home to give the farm help to do the fences. Driving a big brand new SUV. Where in the world do these people get all this money around here, side jobs I bet,LOL

Side jobs.Thats what I thought too.

That,or by saving money by hiring someone thats just as qualified as the businesses,
But without insurance or certification.

Some folks really do that . Believe it or not.

 

[THALL10326]

Side jobs.Thats what I thought too.

That,or by hiring someone thats just as qualified as the businesses,
But without insurance or certification.

Some folks really do that . Believe it or not.

Really, you serious, I'll be dayumm. I thought those folks were saving bucks somehow, wink!

 

[Woodie]

Newbie its not gotton ugly, whatcha talking about. Hasn't anything been said I can't handle and I think I've been pretty cool in my replies. If ya referring to Tree and me shoot we have been jawing like that for years. He don't pay any mind to me and I sure as hell don't pay any mind to what that ole fool has to say. We just having some fun so relax Woodie, tant no biggie at all. Join in, take a side and get in here. Heck you and me haven't fought a good round in a long time. Clear ya geezer and post something, I'll reply back to ya like I always do.

Fact is, I can't take a side because I don't know the laws where you're working. Where I live, it is a crime to take money to do tree work unless you are licensed by the city, and you can't get that license without a $300,000 policy. And yes, I did say crime...it's not even a civil infraction...it's a misdemeanor. But, if there are no such laws where you live and work, then there is no unfair competition.

I happen to have a private pesticide applicator's license from the State of Michigan. I got it in order to be able to use regulated herbicides on my own property. I have friends that have asked me to do herbicide applications on their lawns, some of which have offered some money. I always turn those down, because the terms of my license forbid me from doing so for hire. It is unfair competition for me to come in and do that type of work, because I have no insurance policy if something were to go wrong. The guy's that have that policy have to bake it into their rates, so by definition I'm competing unfairly. However, I have done some for good friends for free, simply because the vast majority of lawn services in my area just don't know the first *&^% thing about proper herbicide application, and I don't want to see a good friend's lawn wrecked.

Couple of other points...someone, may even have been you, said that you weren't a business...you were just a person. But here's the thing...once you enter into a contract to perform services for hire, you actually are a business...you are a sole propietor, and the IRS will treat you as such. Now, before someone mentions that we all get paid by our employers, yes...we do, but there is no business contract there. (Even if you're union...that's an employment contract). We're all free to walk away from our jobs on a moment's notice, for any reason or none, so no, we are not all "businesses."

Furthermore, a verbal agreement is a binding contract unless it falls under the statute of frauds, which again varies from state to state. So you are truly acting as a business under the circumstances.

As to who would pay in the event of an accident...depends on state laws again, but there might not be anyone to pay. Where I live, if I hired an unlicensed tree contractor, he would be commiting a crime by working on the tree. If there was an accident, (1) He has no insurance, (2) My policy would probably fight paying because I hired a criminal to do something I shouldn't have. So in the end...maybe my policy would pay, but bet your lungs not for a long, long time.

Now, in your favor, none of that crap above may apply at all where you live. If you don't need a license, and if you aren't required to have insurance, free market rules, baby! Also, my guess is that you know your limitations, and if you think anything could remotely go wrong, you won't take the job.

Both sides have some good points. But I think the tone started out bad, then got worse. Again, too much drama, not enough bullcrappin'!!

 

[redprospector]

Well I ain't going to argue, just a little food for thought.
Personally, I couldn't give a sh!t less if Thall clear cuts Virginia @ 100.00 a tree, it doesn't affect me. But it wasn't that long ago we were in a discussion about online sales (I don't remember if it was Dolmar, or Husqvarna). Thall, you and several other dealers took verry similar stands to the arborist who posted earlier in this thread.
Have you had a change of heart?
Seriously, take a close look at the stand you have taken. I don't want to think your talking out of both sides of your face if you aren't.
I look for the biggest bang for my buck, just like everyone else. And like I said in the internet sales thread; Competition is good for business, period.
A person has to take a stand, and it should apply to every aspect of their life. If not that stand means nothing.

Andy

Just wondering how to take you in future post's. Have you had a change of heart, or is it all just bull sh!t?

Andy

 

[stihl 440]

okkkkkkk

Just wondering how to take you in future post's. Have you had a change of heart, or is it all just bull sh!t?

Andy

ooookkkkkkkkkkkk,WTF! You quoted yourself? :hmm3grin2orange: :biggrinbounce2:

 

[redprospector]

What did you want me to do? Re-type it?
I didn't get any type of reply, and wanted to be sure my post wasn't over looked before forming an opinion about someone.

Sorry I'm not politically correct on this site.
On second thought, I'm not politically correct anywhere.

Andy

 

[RiverRat2]

Yeah,,, isn't that funny????

Tom, I built this for a dealer friend and charged him very little. I am not a carpenter so I guess I am in trouble with you now.

I've seen one of them before,,,,,,??? I wonder where?????

Mow R U a certified wooden erector set
builder????? Yep the carpenters Local is gonna file a grievance!!!!!!

:spam: :spam: :spam:

You sure are crafty!!!!!