661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[bwalker]

there ya go again. 2t Oil is 2t oil. it's all the same stuff.

Clearly it's not. Some oils really suck..like H1R.

 

[redbull660]

I think I've had enough of your BS.

 

[bwalker]

I think I've had enough of your BS.

Feelings mutual...and about 100 pages back.

 

[redbull660]

you seem to know a few things. but we have accomplished basically nothing in 4000 posts. How constructive

 

[KenJax Tree]

I don't even care about any of the test results, this is just entertaining to read after a long day at work.....using my thin crappy solvent filled oil

 

[KenJax Tree]

you seem to know a few things. but we have accomplished basically nothing in 4000 posts. How constructive

The next 4000 aren't looking much better[emoji6]

 

[bwalker]

you seem to know a few things. but we have accomplished basically nothing in 4000 posts. How constructive

You are not capable of learning, I am convinced. The evidence is there...

 

[CR500]

technically we are not at 4k yet.


I think at 4k any of these oils we produce carbon haha

 

[redbull660]

I don't even care about any of the test results, this is just entertaining to read after a long day at work.....using my thin crappy solvent filled oil

I didn't say it was thin.

I didn't say it was crappy

I just said and have been saying - you need more of it to get the same effect of H1R.

 

[bwalker]

I didn't say it was thin.

I didn't say it was crappy

I just said and have been saying - you need more of it to get the same effect of H1R.

You really think 32:1 vs. 35.5:1 in the case of 2R explains the differance? How about we also subtract the additive content because "its not pure oil"? Your insistence on adhering to this train of thought is further evidence of your lack of critical thinking and lack of knowledge.

 

[blsnelling]

it doesn't matter what you think it does or doesn't do.

We'll run all the oils and find what mix ratio each likes. maybe it'll be 2R at 32:1 vs 710 @ 36:1 vs 800 at 40:1 and so on.

then run those against each other. See what differences there are.

When that happens...then there is something to talk about.

Woohoo. A LOT less talk, and a LOT more action Do these tests and you'll have some actual data with which to draw some conclusions.

 

[redbull660]

got a response back from Motul.... you guys are going to lose yer **** over this one. see bold



Hello, I'm wondering about using the 710 or 800 off road 2t oils in my chainsaw. It's a Stihl 661 91cc 7.5hp runs 13,500 off load WOT and approx 10,000 on load. (in wood) Generally the saw is idling for a little bit and then will run 10 sec-1min long cuts at WOT and then idling for a bit until the next cut. Idle = ~2800rpm.

1. would you recommend 710 or 800 or another motul 2t oil for this application? If so would you suggest a ratio to use?

2. Is there a temp that would be too cold to use my saw at...using 710 or 800? I mix with 92 octane ethanol free

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully,


----- Original Message -----
From: Muto, Jon
To:
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:34 PM
Subject: 800 off road & 710

Hi ,

The product I would recommend for your chain saw is our 800 2T off-road. Although as I am sure you are aware 800 2T was not designed for use in chain saws, but it does work very well. The EsterCore package in the 800 2T offers maximum protection for your engine, especially at high RPM's.

The ratio I would recommend would be a 50:1 ratio. If that ratio is a little too rich you can go to a 60:1 ratio. Since it is a Premix only product you can run the ratios a little leaner then an Injector/Premix product like the 710 2T.

As for a temp that would be too cold to use your saw at we do not have an exact degree number. I do know that we have a lot of customers in Canada and other colder regions that use the 800 2T in their chainsaws and snowmobiles without issue. We just recommend that if it is cold outside that you properly warm up your engine before use.

Regards,

Jon Muto
Marketing Coordinator
Motul USA Inc. | 790C Indigo Ct. | Pomona, CA 91767

T 909-625-1292 Ext. 200 | F 909-625-2697 | Cell 909-538-2091

[email protected]|www.motul.com

Click here to visit our website...

 

[redbull660]

You really think 32:1 vs. 35.5:1 in the case of 2R explains the differance? How about we also subtract the additive content because "its not pure oil"? Your insistence on adhering to this train of thought is further evidence of your lack of critical thinking and lack of knowledge.

361 test with H1R
50:1 was so so
45:1 was perfect
40:1 was so so

tune didn't change much from 50 down to 40:1

32:1 ...everything with to sh*t. tune required a lot of turning. So yeah I think there may be a tipping point.

Critical thinking...oh like your analytical skills are just AWESOME!

ps. why do you have to be such a prick about everything.

 

[bwalker]

got a response back from Motul.... you guys are going to lose yer **** over this one. see bold



Hello, I'm wondering about using the 710 or 800 off road 2t oils in my chainsaw. It's a Stihl 661 91cc 7.5hp runs 13,500 off load WOT and approx 10,000 on load. (in wood) Generally the saw is idling for a little bit and then will run 10 sec-1min long cuts at WOT and then idling for a bit until the next cut. Idle = ~2800rpm.

1. would you recommend 710 or 800 or another motul 2t oil for this application? If so would you suggest a ratio to use?

2. Is there a temp that would be too cold to use my saw at...using 710 or 800? I mix with 92 octane ethanol free

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully,


----- Original Message -----
From: Muto, Jon
To:
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:34 PM
Subject: 800 off road & 710

Hi ,

The product I would recommend for your chain saw is our 800 2T off-road. Although as I am sure you are aware 800 2T was not designed for use in chain saws, but it does work very well. The EsterCore package in the 800 2T offers maximum protection for your engine, especially at high RPM's.

The ratio I would recommend would be a 50:1 ratio. If that ratio is a little too rich you can go to a 60:1 ratio. Since it is a Premix only product you can run the ratios a little leaner then an Injector/Premix product like the 710 2T.

As for a temp that would be too cold to use your saw at we do not have an exact degree number. I do know that we have a lot of customers in Canada and other colder regions that use the 800 2T in their chainsaws and snowmobiles without issue. We just recommend that if it is cold outside that you properly warm up your engine before use.

Regards,

Jon Muto
Marketing Coordinator
Motul USA Inc. | 790C Indigo Ct. | Pomona, CA 91767

T 909-625-1292 Ext. 200 | F 909-625-2697 | Cell 909-538-2091

[email protected]|www.motul.com

Click here to visit our website...

Who is advocating the use of injector oils? NOT ME! It also doesn't supprise a Marketing Coordinator would reccomend those ratios..

 

[redbull660]

Who is advocating the use of injector oils? NOT ME! It also doesn't supprise a Marketing Coordinator would reccomend those ratios..

oh no you don't...

Motul he says..."Since it (referring to 800 off road) is a Premix only product you can run the ratios a little leaner then an Injector/Premix product like the 710 2T."

then an inejector/premix product like 710 2t - INJECTOR/PREMIX notice how he used them together. He didn't say INJECTOR he used them together.

 

[redbull660]

Motul says 50:1 or maybe 60:1 LOL

what does Bwalker say? it' can be run 16:1.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bwalker]

oh no you don't...

Motul he says..."Since it (referring to 800 off road) is a Premix only product you can run the ratios a little leaner then an Injector/Premix product like the 710 2T."

then an inejector/premix product like 710 2t - INJECTOR/PREMIX notice how he used them together. He didn't say INJECTOR he used them together.

I specifically said I have no interest in injector oils. I bought some 710 recently, but gave it away because of this.
I specifically do not reccomend the use of injector or dual purpose oils.

 

[bwalker]

Motul says 50:1 or maybe 60:1 LOL

what does Bwalker say? it' can be run 16:1.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

800t is ran down to 16:1 in shifters..I've seen it with my own eyes. BECAUSE IT'S A DECENT OIL UNLIKE H1R IT WORKS FINE AT 16:1.

 

[redbull660]

oh and the chemical and physical make up of 710 and 2r are sooo different. whatever buddy.

 

[redbull660]

chainsaws man chainsaws. i don't give 2 bits about a kart.