661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[Deleted member 83629]

What oil are you using now?

supertech outboard im betting.

 

[porsche965]

In OPE it's shrunk, you can't buy a Stihl trimmer or blower that's two stroke for instance.

That's a lie.

I just bought a Stihl 94R string trimmer. How many do you want?

Straight two stroke engine. Not 4 stroke or 4 mix whatsoever.[/QUOTE]

 

[Deleted member 83629]

i don't want any because i bought the last production model husqvarna 323L this march for 200.00 it cost close to what a 94r cost but i wanted one of the last non strato 2 strokes.

 

[redbull660]

Seriously? No one has proven that H1-R inhibit combustion, just like you haven't proven it's simply too thick. And just for the record, I'm looking at the evidence not people's options.

I didn't say it was too thick.

I said there is more actual oil in the bottle of h1r than others. Major difference.


Yamadope runs at 32:1. at least 10% of it per their own freakin MSDS is solvent. Solvent ain't oil. No lubricating properties. Fact.

4 oz bottle of yamadope.
90% or 3.6oz of it is made up of oil for ease of calculation I'm counting everything in there as oil except the solvents.
10% or .4 oz of it is made up of solvent.

You dump in your 4oz bottle of yamadope into your 1 gallon of gas. 32:1 right? WRONG. Since .4oz of the bottle is solvent, and 3.6 oz of it is made up of oil. You take the 3.6oz of oil vs 1 gallon of gas (128oz.) 128/3.6 = 35.6:1 NOT 32:1 as ya all think.


Now take 4oz bottle of H1R
100% = oil.

32:1 is really 32:1 !


The math doesn't lie.

If you wanna compare apples to apples. Then you run 32:1 yamadope vs 36:1 H1R. At least in this example. I would estimate the total non lubricating fluids in yamadope at closer to 20%+. But it's at least 10% per their own MSDS.

 

[KG441c]

i dont like them at all had a fs 90 for 3 yrs it need valve adjustment annually and needed the carbon to be cleaned yearly will stihls carbon cleaner.

and the valve train on the 4 mix blowers and trimmers is to be desired.

Ya that plastic cam lobe is the part in it I dont like. The rest is built pretty well amd the 4 mix motors have pretty good torque

 

[KenJax Tree]

i don't want any because i bought the last production model husqvarna 323L this march for 200.00 it cost close to what a 94r cost but i wanted one of the last non strato 2 strokes.

I have a 326LS and i'm very happy with it.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

I have a 326LS and i'm very happy with it.

im very happy with mine i gutted the cat muffler and enlarged the exit its a mean trimmer now.
i put it against my dads fs 85 and it doesn't compare.

 

[bwalker]

They still make both trimmers and blowers with 2-stroke engines.

I stand corrected, but the point is the two stroke market has shrunk by a huge amount in the last decade.

 

[bwalker]

I didn't say it was too thick.

I said there is more actual oil in the bottle of h1r than others. Major difference.


Yamadope runs at 32:1. at least 10% of it per their own freakin MSDS is solvent. Solvent ain't oil. No lubricating properties. Fact.

4 oz bottle of yamadope.
90% or 3.6oz of it is made up of oil for ease of calculation I'm counting everything in there as oil except the solvents.
10% or .4 oz of it is made up of solvent.

You dump in your 4oz bottle of yamadope into your 1 gallon of gas. 32:1 right? WRONG. Since .4oz of the bottle is solvent, and 3.6 oz of it is made up of oil. You take the 3.6oz of oil vs 1 gallon of gas (128oz.) 128/3.6 = 35.6:1 NOT 32:1 as ya all think.


Now take 4oz bottle of H1R
100% = oil.

32:1 is really 32:1 !


The math doesn't lie.

If you wanna compare apples to apples. Then you run 32:1 yamadope vs 36:1 H1R. At least in this example. I would estimate the total non lubricating fluids in yamadope at closer to 20%+. But it's at least 10% per their own MSDS.

Using your logic...H1R still runs like crap at 36:1..

 

[bwalker]

i don't want any because i bought the last production model husqvarna 323L this march for 200.00 it cost close to what a 94r cost but i wanted one of the last non strato 2 strokes.

Strato Huskies use Redmax tech. I'D take a Redmax or a Husky strato any day over my FS-85,but it just won't give up the ghost.

 

[RedFir Down]

Here is an interesting read about H1R. Starts on page 2. http://www.wdarc.org/articles_files/2 stroke Oil Test.pdf

I googled "does belray h1r affect combustion". It was the second link from the top. Im sure there is more out there also.

 

[bwalker]

Here is an interesting read about H1R. Starts on page 2. http://www.wdarc.org/articles_files/2 stroke Oil Test.pdf

I googled "does belray h1r affect combustion". It was the second link from the top. Im sure there is more out there also.

That's the ultra light oil test referenced earlier.

 

[Trx250r180]

H1 r does effect combustion in my saws, after trying another oil I can tell the difference now in how they run

 

[KenJax Tree]

I bought another pint of Yamalube Saturday so 5 more gallon mixed @ 40:1, now lets see if we can get something the grenade

 

[bwalker]

I bought another pint of Yamalube Saturday so 5 more gallon mixed @ 40:1, now lets see if we can get something the grenade

I have a friend that uses it in his sons 80cc dirtbikes at 50:1. The kids a pretty good ice racer and just screams that bike. It's always worked well for them

 

[Effs]

The article shows why Belray is so good!!!!

 

[bwalker]

Even if H1R didn't do wonky things to combustion, I still would not use it any more. No excuse for a oil to have deposits in the ring grooves like this. These sorts of deposits can and do cause ring mobility issues, which intern causes blowboy and premature failure.

 

[Effs]

It's funny I've never seen a piston like that using Belray , maybe the fuel was bad.

 

[Effs]

It's funny I've never seen a piston like that using Belray , maybe the fuel was bad.

You can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink !!

 

[bwalker]

The article shows why Belray is so good!!!!