661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[bwalker]

Maxima k2 and Maxima super M ,is there a whole lot of difference ? Both have real similar descriptions on the website .

They are quit different.

 

[bwalker]

Can't really answer any of that without a whole lot of speculation.

The valvoline product is a boat motor oil and shouldn't be ran in air cooled equipment

If I was looking for something cheap and available at gas stations I would run Citgo Air cooled. It's a FC/FD certified oil and it works pretty good. Citgo has two cycle oils figured out. They make Echo's oil and made Yamalube 2R until recently.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Maxima k2 and Maxima super M ,is there a whole lot of difference ? Both have real similar descriptions on the website .

I was told by Maxima that Super M is 60% K2 and 40% petroleum oil. Whether its true not idk but they're the same color and the exhaust smells the same.

 

[bwalker]

I was told by Maxima that Super M is 60% K2 and 40% petroleum oil. Whether its true not idk but they're the same color and the exhaust smells the same.

It appears to me by looking at the msds sheets that they are totaly different. It is hard to say definitively.

 

[Miles86]

Hey-

sorry I didn't read all 202 pages, here are my casual experiences with oils:

racing oils without solvents (belray h1r, motul 800t , silkolene pro 2sx) all these are huge overkill for small OPE and make tuning hard as these oils just pass thru the engine leaving an oily exhaust . These are all sae 40 or sae 50 weight.

Using a factory type oil (with a solvent dilutent-kerosene) these are sae 20 also called injector oils. These at 20:1 and carb adjusted for the extra oil are giving me the best results of throttle response and clean burning. 20:1 as oil is cheap and crankshaft service is not cheap.

Castor oils are a no go I have found, too hard to keep a consistent mix and plug fouling at the worst time.

Also found that PWC oils (NOT outboard )work great in OPE plus give extra corrosion protection from humid damp storage conditions.

notice the higher TBN of pwc jaso FD versus factory oil jaso FD

Quicksilver (citgo) PWC =all walmarts
Mystik PWC *same*- online order
Lubrication engineers monolec 8104-online order http://products.lelubricants.com/it...er=10&categid=1002&prodid=1233&origin=keyword

 

[Deleted member 83629]

the PWC oil at walmart is 15$ quart here

 

[gduvic]

Gulfpride two stroke oil.Used it for years (40:1)never any problems.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

quaker state 2t is good but they place i used to buy it from quit ordering it. got the quarts for 5$ a 6 pack of the 8oz bottles was only 4$

 

[KG441c]

quaker state 2t is good but they place i used to buy it from quit ordering it. got the quarts for 5$ a 6 pack of the 8oz bottles was only 4$

I just got a cub cadet weedeater in the shop running QS 2t but the exhaust side of piston and cylinder was scored up pretty bad!! Hard to say if someone didnt mix right, messed with tune , dirty air filter?

 

[Deleted member 83629]

running lean will do it too but the cub cadet trimmers are close to junk anyways.

 

[KG441c]

running lean will do it too but the cub cadet trimmers are close to junk anyways.

Ur not lying there!! That dang o ring on the back of the crankcase for a seal is a joke!!!

 

[Deleted member 83629]

my dad ran the qs 2t for years in his weedeater gti 19 at 40:1 when the shaft got worn out he pitched it.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

the husqvarna 223l or stihl fs94r should be 10x better than the cub-cajunk

 

[KG441c]

The craftsman(troybilt) 4 cycle trimmer with valves and a walbro barrel wlyb carb isnt too bad I worked on today. The extra weight on the engine paired with the short curved shaft is a back breaker though!!

 

[Deleted member 83629]

you want a back breaker? i will bring forth the fs 250 you would be hunch backed after packed it around a hr or so.

 

[bwalker]

It appears to me by looking at the msds sheets that they are totaly different.

Hey-

sorry I didn't read all 202 pages, here are my casual experiences with oils:

racing oils without solvents (belray h1r, motul 800t , silkolene pro 2sx) all these are huge overkill for small OPE and make tuning hard as these oils just pass thru the engine leaving an oily exhaust . These are all sae 40 or sae 50 weight.

Using a factory type oil (with a solvent dilutent-kerosene) these are sae 20 also called injector oils. These at 20:1 and carb adjusted for the extra oil are giving me the best results of throttle response and clean burning. 20:1 as oil is cheap and crankshaft service is not cheap.

Castor oils are a no go I have found, too hard to keep a consistent mix and plug fouling at the worst time.

Also found that PWC oils (NOT outboard )work great in OPE plus give extra corrosion protection from humid damp storage conditions.

notice the higher TBN of pwc jaso FD versus factory oil jaso FD

Quicksilver (citgo) PWC =all walmarts
Mystik PWC *same*- online order
Lubrication engineers monolec 8104-online order http://products.lelubricants.com/it...er=10&categid=1002&prodid=1233&origin=keyword

The presence of solvent in a blend has nothing to do with viscosity or its use as an injector oil. Maxima K2 is a case in point. It contains some solvent, yet is a premix only oil with a viscosity which is about the same as H1R.
PWC oils would be suitable for use in a saw chemistry wise, but they are injector oils, which I prefer not to run in pre mix applications.

 

[Trx250r180]

This may sound like a dumb question, is there a good quality oil with blue dye in it? Most of the ones I have been trying out the fuel looks clear like no mix is in it, worried about someone at work grabbing strait gas I guess and putting in my equipment.

 

[CR500]

This may sound like a dumb question, is there a good quality oil with blue dye in it? Most of the ones I have been trying out the fuel looks clear like no mix is in it, worried about someone at work grabbing strait gas I guess and putting in my equipment.

I have not tried enough oil yet but these 2 stick out to the point if someone can not tell that the fuel is mixed they may be color blind

Motul and K2

 

[KenJax Tree]

Lucas is blue and Yamalube 2R is dark purple

 

[Deleted member 83629]

motul looks like kool aid when it is mixed with gas YUMMY!