661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[bwalker]

fit? cuz I defend my results? cuz I don't take the bs...For example - like people who can't read and only see what they want to see and then say that I said this or that when I didn't say that at all. Yeah that's a bit frustrating ...like dealing with a pissed off woman. Her " you said blah blah blah" and your like wtf lady...I didn't say that at all. THEN they keep doing it. So yeah it's kind of annoying.

Or the guys who talk about variables and problems that don't really influence the test results as they imagine..., yet they have never run a test themselves to actually know.

No discoveries here - I'm just posting results and my opinions. So instead of doing a test to verify/confirm. Some guys get all wet in the middle when they don't like said results, so they turn into 12yr olds and start name calling. Or misquoting you or any number of little childish acts to try and discredit the test.

Don't like my test results??? Then do the same test and prove em wrong. No one so far is willing to do that.

You don't like anything that challenges your preconceived notions and get pissy when anyone questions your tests or methods. Just how I see it.

 

[redbull660]

You don't like anything that challenges your preconceived notions and get pissy when anyone questions your tests or methods. Just how I see it.

I think my last post addresses everything you've said here. http://www.arboristsite.com/communi...-vs-40-1-vs-50-1.276534/page-212#post-5368701

 

[bwalker]

I think my last post addresses everything you've said here. http://www.arboristsite.com/communi...-vs-40-1-vs-50-1.276534/page-212#post-5368701

I am sure you really believe that. I am also sure it's 180 from reality.

 

[Whitespider]

...detergancy refers to cleanliness, not actual detergent concentration.

See what I mean 'bout believin' in magic??

"Detergency" does not refer to "cleanliness"... in simple terms it refers to the strength of the available detergent (surfactant).
If you want your detergent solution to have more strength (detergency), you add more detergent... you add more surfactants.
Surfactants reduce the surface tension between two liquids, or between a liquid and a solid... there is only one possible way to increase the "detergency" of a detergent solution, whether it be a water or an oil solution... you must add more surfactants... you must add more detergent.

Yes, some surfactants are more powerful than others... because they are more pure and/or concentrated... meaning they contain more friggin' soap‼

Nice try though...
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[bwalker]

See what I mean 'bout believin' in magic??

"Detergency" does not refer to "cleanliness"... in simple terms it refers to the strength of the available detergent (surfactant).
If you want your detergent solution to have more strength (detergency), you add more detergent... you add more surfactants.
Surfactants reduce the surface tension between two liquids, or between a liquid and a solid... there is only one possible way to increase the "detergency" of a detergent solution, whether it be a water or an oil solution... you must add more surfactants... you must add more detergent.

Yes, some surfactants are more powerful than others... because they are more pure and/or concentrated... meaning they contain more friggin' soap‼

Nice try though...
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Google is failing you...again. Hint, the detergent in two cycle oil is mettalic in nature..Sure as hell ain't soap and not by a long shot.

 

[brockhaskins]

I get a good laugh out of some of this. "I ran 5 tanks or ten tanks then looked in my exhaust port blah blah". I've ran hundreds and hundreds of tanks through my saws and the only time I take my mufflers off is to drill a hole in them when I first get the saw.

 

[brockhaskins]

Oh I'll use almost any oil 40:1.

 

[Big_Wood]

I get a good laugh out of some of this. "I ran 5 tanks or ten tanks then looked in my exhaust port blah blah". I've ran hundreds and hundreds of tanks through my saws and the only time I take my mufflers off is to drill a hole in them when I first get the saw.

the real question is, what do you run for oil? LOL i don't remove my muffler for nothing either. just mod them and then maybe once a year or 2 i get bored on a snowy or rainy day so take them off to slap a fresh coat of paint on them. not really needed but what the hell when you got a day off and it's snowing out.

 

[bwalker]

I get a good laugh out of some of this. "I ran 5 tanks or ten tanks then looked in my exhaust port blah blah". I've ran hundreds and hundreds of tanks through my saws and the only time I take my mufflers off is to drill a hole in them when I first get the saw.

5-10 doesn't tell you much of anything..

 

[brockhaskins]

the real question is, what do you run for oil? LOL i don't remove my muffler for nothing either. just mod them and then maybe once a year or 2 i get bored on a snowy or rainy day so take them off to slap a fresh coat of paint on them. not really needed but what the hell when you got a day off and it's snowing out.

Used stihl ultra a lot and lucas. But have ran all sorts of oil whatever is at the gas station type of deal.

 

[Big_Wood]

Used stihl ultra a lot and lucas. But have ran all sorts of oil whatever is at the gas station type of deal.

that's the way i've been going lately. my buddies are running the cheapest **** with regular fuel at 50:1 and doing way more cutting then me and are getting their money's worth out of them for sure.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Hi Shane[emoji4] i read the saws for sale thread[emoji23]

 

[Whitespider]

Hint, the detergent in two cycle oil is mettalic in nature..Sure as hell ain't soap and not by a long shot.

Good lord man... stop with the deflections.

We all know that a detergent is not a soap... but we all (or most of us) call it by the name soap all the time. Your kitchen cookware is washed in a detergent... but I'll bet you call it "dish soap" don't ya'?? Your cloths are washed in a detergent solution... but I'll bet you call it "laundry soap" don't ya'??

Detergents (surfactants) all accomplish the same thing, weather-or-not they are metallic in nature matters not for cold owl squat... and the slang term for detergent is "soap". So if ya' feel better about buying "detergent" rather than "soap" for mixing with your chainsaw fuel... fine... I'll be sure and use the proper term "detergent" from-here-on-out.

Personally, I prefer oil.
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[brockhaskins]

that's the way i've been going lately. my buddies are running the cheapest **** with regular fuel at 50:1 and doing way more cutting then me and are getting their money's worth out of them for sure.

yeah I know a guy who will use anything for oil. I've literally seen him mix a little motor oil into gas and run his saw. Surprisingly the saw seemed to run fine. He still runs it and still uses whatever for oil.

 

[bwalker]

Good lord man... stop with the deflections.

We all know that a detergent is not a soap... but we all (or most of us) call it by the name soap all the time. Your kitchen cookware is washed in a detergent... but I'll bet you call it "dish soap" don't ya'?? Your cloths are washed in a detergent solution... but I'll bet you call it "laundry soap" don't ya'??

Detergents (surfactants) all accomplish the same thing, weather-or-not they are metallic in nature matters not for cold owl squat... and the slang term for detergent is "soap". So if ya' feel better about buying "detergent" rather than "soap" for mixing with your chainsaw fuel... fine... I'll be sure and use the proper term "detergent" from-here-on-out.

Personally, I prefer oil.
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Your the one deflecting and you don't have a clue what your talking about, so much so its comical.

 

[RedFir Down]

fit? cuz I defend my results? cuz I don't take the bs...For example - like people who can't read and only see what they want to see and then say that I said this or that when I didn't say that at all. Yeah that's a bit frustrating ...like dealing with a pissed off woman. Her " you said blah blah blah" and your like wtf lady...I didn't say that at all. THEN they keep doing it. So yeah it's kind of annoying.

Or the guys who talk about variables and problems that don't really influence the test results as they imagine..., yet they have never run a test themselves to actually know.

The only thing I would suggest is dont take it so personal and get emotional about it.

Don't like my test results??? Then do the same test and prove em wrong.

Prove what? First off I dont have any thing to prove, especially regarding this topic.

No one so far is willing to do that.

That is because most everyone here knows they dont have the knowledge and resources to thoroughly test these oils like your wanting to do, yourself included.

 

[Whitespider]

Heck bwalker... I ain't the one believing in magic.
You're in luck though... the good lord watches over fools.
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[bwalker]

The only thing I would suggest is dont take it so personal and get emotional about it.

Prove what? First off I dont have any thing to prove, especially regarding this topic

That is because most everyone here knows they dont have the knowledge and resources to thoroughly test these oils like your wanting to do, yourself included.

That sums it up about right. Especially the last sentance.

 

[bwalker]

Heck bwalker... I ain't the one believing in magic.
You're in luck though... the good lord watches over fools.
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The only fool is the one that pays good money for crap...

 

[blsnelling]