661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[KenJax Tree]

yeah like sit on this endless thread and gossip and speculate about oil rather than figure it out. If it didn't matter they wouldn't be here. And this thread woudn't have 7000+ posts or ~140,000 views.

True but i don't think timed cuts mean much to a guy cutting firewood or making a living.

For me if its readily available, good quality, burns clean, priced well and doesn't kill my sinuses i'm in. Hell i don't even own a ported saw so IMO seconds don't mean much if you aren't racing.

 

[Ron660]

Exactly my point. They dont test the race oils for a reason. Probably wouldnt pass the test

Racing oils highest priority is maximum protection under high stress conditions. I think most would easily meet FD requirements.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

i picked up two liters of it at the bike shop they were having a sale 30$ for 2 liters is cheap.

 

[redbull660]

True but i don't think timed cuts mean much to a guy cutting firewood or making a living.

For me if its readily available, good quality, burns clean, priced well and doesn't kill my sinuses i'm in. Hell i don't even own a ported saw so IMO seconds don't mean much if you aren't racing.

Well then! I guess we should all follow your lead. Problem solved. None of this sh*t matters. Ya'll can stop posting!

guess I won't post my results then when I do the oil test. I'll just go and win at all the GTG's

 

[bwalker]

Ya the whole jaso thing is geared toward emissions for EPA

It really isn't .
As I mentioned many months/pages back, lubricity is no longer an issue as it pertains to wear. Deposits are very much a factor in wear.

 

[bwalker]

Does a FB rating mean that it doesn't pass FD testing, or that it just hasn't been?

FB is obsolete.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Well then! I guess we should all follow your lead. Problem solved. None of this sh*t matters. Ya'll can stop posting!

guess I won't post my results then when I do the oil test. I'll just go and win at all the GTG's

Whatever floats your boat.... i'm not saying anyone should do as i do so no need to follow my lead.

I just haven't seen anyone post about timed cuts in a long time, its been mostly about burning clean and film strength which i think many oils talked about here fall into that catagory. Pick your poison and ratio.

 

[KG441c]

Racing oils highest priority is maximum protection under high stress conditions. I think most would easily meet FD requirements.

My point again is not protection or lubricity but the main focus on jaso is smoke and exhaust blocking according to the jaso chart

 

[Ron660]

Whatever floats your boat.... i'm not saying anyone should do as i do so no need to follow my lead.

I just haven't seen anyone post about timed cuts in a long time, its been mostly about burning clean and film strength which i think many oils talked about here fall into that catagory. Pick your poison and ratio.

I liked Mike's experience showing lower end and bearing lubrication.

 

[KenJax Tree]

I liked Mike's experience showing lower end and bearing lubrication.

Well that means something when discussing oil but timed cuts do not.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

want to really keep a engine clean use 2 ounces of seafoam per gallon of mix it might smoke a little more but it will get a saw squeaky clean.

 

[LowVolt]

 

[Trx250r180]

K2 is red and so is Super M

I have some super M and 927 ,i thought it was gold ,i may be wrong though ,i have about 80 bottles of oil on my bench thanks to this thread ,lol

reminds me of that mobil 1 2 cycle oil

That's what i am running now ,i like the almost odorless smell ,the yellow/clear fuel i do not like ,at 32 to 1 the idle quality

 

[Ron660]

My point again is not protection or lubricity but the main focus on jaso is smoke and exhaust blocking

800 off-road has none to little smoke. Also extremely clean just like Mike said.

 

[KenJax Tree]

927 is gold but K2 and super m are orangeish red color

 

[Mastermind]

what I don't get is that in 7,000 posts with all the resources out there. Not one person has done any timed cuts between oils.

Get a decent piece of wood. Get a non hand sharpened, new or like new chain.
Do 2-3 cuts with brand A whatever ratio you want I don't care.
Take the chain off
dump your gas
put in new gas with brand B
get another chain...cut with it for a little bit so you've got the new gas through the system.
put test chain back on do 2-3 cuts with brand B compare times.

I don't want to hear about the variables in wood either. If the wood is nice and the cuts are close enough together and done on same day it's fine.

I never fell a tree with a stop watch in it.

I did like that you figured out that H1R was phucking with the A/T saws. I stopped using it after that. It's not about the speed though, it's about the why. If H1R inhibits combustion, then it puts the A/T saws outside their calibration window. Sort of a no brainer once you see it. A second here and there in a worksaw though. Who really cares?

How's that 084 running? Scott was here for a couple of days......he told me that you were a fairly normal guy. I was surprised.

Lol!! Randy did u not like r2?

I love that oil. Just wanna see if Lucas works as well.

 

[KG441c]

want to really keep a engine clean use 2 ounces of seafoam per gallon of mix it might smoke a little more but it will get a saw squeaky clean.

Agreed! Yamaha ring free some of the best cleaner made

 

[Deleted member 83629]

Agreed! Yamaha ring free some of the best cleaner made

yamaha ring free is for rich people 30$ per bottle here.

 

[KenJax Tree]

I never fell a tree with a stop watch in it.

I did like that you figured out that H1R was phucking with the A/T saws. I stopped using it after that. It's not about the speed though, it's about the why. If H1R inhibits combustion, then it puts the A/T saws outside their calibration window. Sort of a no brainer once you see it. A second here and there in a worksaw though. Who really cares?

How's that 084 running? Scott was here for a couple of days......he told me that you were a fairly normal guy. I was surprised.



I love that oil. Just wanna see if Lucas works as well.

I like it too but i also like Honda HP2, but Yamalube is hard to beat for $10 a quart

I also liked Lucas but for the same price Yamalube seems like a better oil.

Maybe its all just my imagination but in 20 years of tree work nothing has ever exploded even using oil i wouldn't dare use now.[emoji23]

 

[KG441c]

Ive used a good bit of Lucas Randy in lawn eq. , saws, and dirtbikes. No problems