661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[KG441c]

K2 is good stuff .............. no complaints !
Got 1 liter for $25 on a sale ............. smells like resin when mixxing, no smell when running, no smoke, looks like I will be purchasing it for all of my 2 cycle needs.
reddish-orange color, works well in my bikes, saws, weedeaters, hedge-trimmers, blowers .................. even with pump gas with ethanol is works good !

Good to hear Mopar! Thanks. Amazon has 64oz containers for 34$ shipped

 

[KG441c]

K2 is good stuff .............. no complaints !
Got 1 liter for $25 on a sale ............. smells like resin when mixxing, no smell when running, no smoke, looks like I will be purchasing it for all of my 2 cycle needs.
reddish-orange color, works well in my bikes, saws, weedeaters, hedge-trimmers, blowers .................. even with pump gas with ethanol is works good !

Do u think you like it better than 800t?

 

[Moparmyway]

I am on the fence there ................ I cant honestly say that I like one better than the other, and I can say that they are about identical, except that K2 doesnt smell at all and Motul 800 barely has a smell to it when running. Motul smells better than K2 when mixxing, but thats REALLY splitting hairs

 

[KenJax Tree]

I like Super M also, that burned clean and had little smoke too. Smelled like K2 burning and half the price.

 

[bwalker]

Do u think you like it better than 800t?

I do for my needs. It runs as clean at 32:1 as 800 does at 40:1.

 

[bwalker]

I am on the fence there ................ I cant honestly say that I like one better than the other, and I can say that they are about identical, except that K2 doesnt smell at all and Motul 800 barely has a smell to it when running. Motul smells better than K2 when mixxing, but thats REALLY splitting hairs

I thought I was the only one who took a sniff of the bottle before pouring. Kinda like a fine scotch!

 

[KenJax Tree]

I thought I was the only one who took a sniff of the bottle before pouring. Kinda like a fine scotch!

No i do a sniff test too

 

[porsche965]

I thought I was the only one who took a sniff of the bottle before pouring. Kinda like a fine scotch!

Johnny Walker Blue is my choice often.

 

[mdavlee]

K2>Mobil>800 for milling just for the odor if you can't get away from it. R50 is a little rough as well for smell with no wind. I can't remember if original was that bad or not.

 

[Bwildered]

Has anybody considered how funny it would be if the manufacturers ashless oils such as stihl & ryobi met or exceeded the requirements of TCW-3 & were in fact as some claim "boat oils"
Being as some of the TCW-3 oils are the cheapest you can find. LOL
Tangst

 

[bwalker]

That ashless Stihl oil you are referring to was originally formulated to help the four mix engines with deposit issues from what I gather. From the pics of pistons I have seen with ultra I would not be in a hurry to run it in a saw.
Ashless dispersesents can't deal with high temps(above 300 degrees) so ultra and the ryobi stuff will suffer from the same issues that the snowmobile Mfgs suffered through when they reccomended ashless oils.
Again, I challenge you to find one oil that has been tested and certified for both TCW3 and Jaso FC/FD. Hint, you won't find a single one.
Stihl ultra as it pertains to base oil composition is very likely not formulated like a boat oil. Some of the "multi purpose"products you and your buddy are pumping are indeed boat oils and are even certified as such. The Lubegard product hints it's a boat oil, but it isn't certified by anyone, so who knows what it is.
Again, I ask the question, why not just use the correct oil for the application?

 

[Moparmyway]

Again, I ask the question, why not just use the correct oil for the application?

 

[Ron660]

K2>Mobil>800 for milling just for the odor if you can't get away from it. R50 is a little rough as well for smell with no wind. I can't remember if original was that bad or not.

Mike, how did K2 and Mobil look in the lower end compared to R50 and 800?

 

[mdavlee]

Haven't pulled one apart on Mobil yet. K2 looks great.

 

[KG441c]

Haven't pulled one apart on Mobil yet. K2 looks great.

What was your take on r2 Mike or did u use any?

 

[Moparmyway]

Mike, how did K2 and Mobil look in the lower end compared to R50 and 800?

K2 looks great.

I second that ..............
We need a high hour test to see how K2 holds up long term.
I do this on the side, so my stuff dont get lots of hours ........... on my 7th can (5 gallons each) of VP for the year (all 2 cycle OPE combined)

I havent given Mobil 1 a good try yet either, but I do have a case of it thanks to a certain junk collector

 

[Bwildered]

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That ashless Stihl oil you are referring to was originally formulated to help the four mix engines with deposit issues from what I gather. From the pics of pistons I have seen with ultra I would not be in a hurry to run it in a saw.
Ashless dispersesents can't deal with high temps(above 300 degrees) so ultra and the ryobi stuff will suffer from the same issues that the snowmobile Mfgs suffered through when they reccomended ashless oils.
Again, I challenge you to find one oil that has been tested and certified for both TCW3 and Jaso FC/FD. Hint, you won't find a single one.
Stihl ultra as it pertains to base oil composition is very likely not formulated like a boat oil. Some of the "multi purpose"products you and your buddy are pumping are indeed boat oils and are even certified as such. The Lubegard product hints it's a boat oil, but it isn't certified by anyone, so who knows what it is.
Again, I ask the question, why not just use the correct oil for the application?

bwalker, Today at 8:56 PMReport
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I don't think your considering it at all, after all the bar is set very low with some TCW-3 oils, I don't know what snowmobiles a decade or more ago has got to do with today's newer generation composition oils that have been fully tested for their purpose, but I'm sure we can put it in the round file along with some of your other gems, I can't speak for anybody else but I'm not that hung up on certification like your are, especially theses days when "meets or exceeds" is the norm. The royal purple multipurpose oil mentioned isn't a TCW-3 certified but can be used where it is specified, so it can be used as a boat oil but seeing your hung up on certification & boat oils it isn't technically one, which is why I raised the question about those other oils.
So are the Stihl ultra HP oil 500 hr piston test pics & report run at 50:1 not a true indication of how clean & good the oil performs then ? What evidence do you have that proves it false?

 

[Moparmyway]

So are the Stihl ultra HP oil 500 hr piston test pics run at 50:1 not a true indication of how clean & well the oil performs then ? What evidence do you have that proves it false?

This

 

[KG441c]

I always have seen in several customers saws that Ive torn down that stihl oil would build up that thick soft carbon instead of the smooth hard carbon

 

[Bwildered]

This

Have you tried it yet at the recommended ratios with the correct tune?
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