661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[Andyshine77]

K2 is good stuff I ran it for years, lately I've been running Honda hp2 and so far it seems to run even cleaner than K2, and runs fine @32:1 in Mtronic saws. The only oil I've ever had tuning issues with was H1R, and even than a little screwdriver did the trick, never ran the stuff in an Mtronic saw.

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[smokey7]

I can't believe this thread is almost @400 pages!!! sometimes I wish our passion with some egos mixed in didnt fuel some of these rough posts. If nothing is proven best at least a good list of high quality oils are available. Even if someone has to read 400 pages to find it.

 

[porsche965]

Oil seems to be like ice cream. Always a new flavor of the month lol.

I have always owned Honda products in one form or another. Still do. Good company.

 

[Stihlman441]

So what company makes the oil for Honda ?
Like Castrol makes it for Stihl (in Ozz anyway)

 

[KG441c]

So what company makes the oil for Honda ?
Like Castrol makes it for Stihl (in Ozz anyway)

Ive heard Yamaha and Mobil makes Honda oils

 

[nitehawk55]

I'm thankful for Redbull investing his time and money into these tests . It will be interesting if there will be any noticable results that show some oils do perform/burn cleaner than others .
What can it hurt ?
BTW , thanks RB for doing this and taking a lot of unnecessary negativity from certain members .

 

[PhilMcWoody]

Side story.

Dodge Logavan was pinging me to CHANGE OIL the last week even though the dealership supposedly did it just 1,000 miles ago (What's up with that?)
anyway I decided to check it and top it up -- not that it needed topping with a little fresh as insurance until i could get back to the dealer to see what was up.

Only recognizable brand in the gas station shop was Castrol Syntec -- all the others brands with names like CAM I had never heard of before
$10 a bottle -- nearly fell on my arse. Last one I bought at a supermarket was $3 a long time ago.

 

[bwalker]

I'm thankful for Redbull investing his time and money into these tests . It will be interesting if there will be any noticable results that show some oils do perform/burn cleaner than others .
What can it hurt ?
BTW , thanks RB for doing this and taking a lot of unnecessary negativity from certain members .

Redbull is only testing cut times FYI.

 

[Ron660]

Redbull is only testing cut times FYI.

Do you think a non-mtronic ported saw would produce different results? Guess I need to test after hunting season.

 

[bwalker]

Do you think a non-mtronic ported saw would produce different results? Guess I need to test after hunting season.

Maybe, maybe not.

 

[redbull660]

Do you think a non-mtronic ported saw would produce different results? Guess I need to test after hunting season.

the goal is not to say this oil and this ratio. It's just to find the best performing oil. Based on cutting times and temps.

If it's possible to establish that? (depends on the results). Then, the ratio is all the remains, and that IMO depends on a lot of factors...so whatever you want to run! lol

I'm thankful for Redbull investing his time and money into these tests . It will be interesting if there will be any noticable results that show some oils do perform/burn cleaner than others .
What can it hurt ?
BTW , thanks RB for doing this and taking a lot of unnecessary negativity from certain members .

thx dude

yeah I am really hoping to find a clear winner or any sort of pattern or trend.

 

[bwalker]

In my stock saw was not as noticable but my hybrid was
My plug was also the cleanest of all i have tried,piston top of what i could see through the mufflet was also

Sounds like your hybrid is just tuned crisper.

 

[bwalker]

the goal is not to say this oil and this ratio. It's just to find the best performing oil. Based on cutting times and temps.

If it's possible to establish that? (depends on the results). Then, the ratio is all the remains, and that IMO depends on a lot of factors...so whatever you want to run! lol




thx dude

yeah I am really hoping to find a clear winner or any sort of pattern or trend.

You have a ton of things to consider for sure.
As I said previously, based on your previous test the temp differance are pretty small, so I would even worry about testing temps.

 

[RedFir Down]

This would tell us on the same day with the same conditions XYZ oil was best. I think ideal ratio changes with conditions. Such as weather, particular saw size & power etc etc, chain type, wood type etc. The point here is to find the best performer on the day in the same exact conditions. What ratio wins...I could care less.

Im curious, what does chain type, wood type etc. have to do with 2 cycle oil.

 

[KG441c]

Im curious, what does chain type, wood type etc. have to do with 2 cycle oil.

Load on the saw

 

[blsnelling]

Load is dictated by the operator, regardless of chain, wood type, or size.

 

[KG441c]

Load is dictated by the operator, regardless of chain, wood type, or size.

True. Some people dont believe u can dog even the biggest saw out though. I hadnt seen one yet up to 90cc range that I couldnt

 

[Ron660]

the goal is not to say this oil and this ratio. It's just to find the best performing oil. Based on cutting times and temps.

If it's possible to establish that? (depends on the results). Then, the ratio is all the remains, and that IMO depends on a lot of factors...so whatever you want to run! lol




thx dude

yeah I am really hoping to find a clear winner or any sort of pattern or trend.

After your results I'll test the winner against 800 off-road and a few more in my ported 660 to determine if the results are the same. I appreciate the testing. What octane will you use?

 

[Ron660]

True. Some people dont believe u can dog even the biggest saw out though. I hadnt seen one yet up to 90cc range that I couldnt

You need a ported 660

 

[KG441c]

You need a ported 660[/QUOTE
Thats a strong saw u got ole buddy. Bet u will like 404 on it better after u try it