70cc saw opinions based on these factors...

[North by Northwest]

I referanced my comment by year.. you chose to bring up something germain to saws built 25 years earlier than I mentioned, which has zero relevance to this topic.
I get it, you like to wax on about old stuff from your youth. How about start a thread about that stuff where the rest of the old farts can get nostalgic with you.

Your missing the point again , I did not bring it up Brufab did . I only cautioned him due to his saw being vintage. What your major malfunction its all there read it !

 

[North by Northwest]

The guy thinks he runs this site or something..

You certainly don't !

 

[bwalker]

No that's why I got around to asking about the 572 vs 372 thing. The 372s are getting dang expensive. Is it worth paying half for an older saw than the newer wiz bang 572 as a firewood guy? I also fix my own stuff

Xtorqs are still in stock locally. However I would probably go with a 572 if I need a saw. Or a 400c, 462 for that matter.

 

[North by Northwest]

That's pretty chess like, you could kill an old friend with that.

With friends like him who needs enemies ! lol

 

[bwalker]

Your missing the point again , I did not bring it up Brufab did . I only cautioned him due to his saw being vintage. What tour major malfunction !

You replied to my post...not Brufabs.
Perhaps Brufab can join you on your walk down memory lane?

 

[bwalker]

You certainly don't !

I never claimed to.

 

[North by Northwest]

My 372 build has a four port cylinder at 52mm / 76,5cc - its powerful but its also "really" thirsty.
Not as thirsty as the 2 port 54mm 82,5cc 460, but not as powerful either.
https://www.arboristsite.com/threads/diy-ms460-first-run-and-carb-adjustment.363225/

They were not considering fuel efficiency during the design stage of the 372 link , cutting performance was their prime objective . Dolmars were even thirsty during the same era !

 

[bwalker]

Your missing the point again , I did not bring it up Brufab did . I only cautioned him due to his saw being vintage. What tour major malfunction !

And Brufab did not bring up saws from the 70's you did.

 

[North by Northwest]

You replied to my post...not Brufabs.
Perhaps Brufab can join you on your walk down memory lane?

Of course I did , you said you had no concerns with oiling larger bars . I clarified that the bars were not the issue but rather old saws with less then stellar oiling capacities that Brufab was running from the 70's ..Clear enough ?

 

[North by Northwest]

And Brufab did not bring up saws from the 70's you did.

All the saws were 70 ' s , I never said I did not bring up older saws as reference !

 

[link]

I'm just happy I got you both on my side...

 

[bwalker]

Of course I did , you said you had no concerns with oiling larger bars . I clarified that the bars were not the issue but rather old saws with less then stellar oiling capacities that B rufab was running ..Clear enough ?

I said I had no concerns with older saws from the 2000 era oiling longer bars...
Brufab didn't mention anything about older saws.. you interjected all the crap as you often do.
Further, if Brufab is an aficionado of older saws do you really think he's not aware of what you mentioned?

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Xtorqs are still in stock locally. However I would probably go with a 572 if I need a saw. Or a 400c, 462 for that matter.

Not real keen on the xt it's the older simpler no epa that attracts to the old style 372 I'd skip the xt for a 572 if it came too it. Just curious if the 572 is really thaaat much better a saw

 

[sean donato]

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Certain relics are good fun.

I been reading along it's good to learn what you professionals are running and why.

The relics of the 70s are what led to modern saws. Same with anything.

That SP81 will cut with a 372 all day and out cut it in the bigger wood. The AV on the Mac's from 1971 is still better than many stihls of now and the not too distant past. It also is about the same weight.

Nothing was very close to these saws until huskies 162 and 181.

Yes parts are challenging but are around.

Of course they have no place in a production world but they are great fun and surprise lots of people. They sound great.

Does a old muscle car from the 70s still have a place? Are you going to daily it?

Newer is definitely not always better. Who likes there new trucks ABS pushing there foot up on the brake on a gravel road? Or it beeping constantly around the farm with no seat belt. Or the sensors dying in the mud. Or the door beeping because its open. Or needing to be in neutral and clutch in when it stalled meanwhile a semi is headed straight at you.

Relics are nice sometimes over wiz bang.

Anyway as a firewood guy what you guys reckon. A 372 oe or 572? I have a 395 for big stuff. A 162 and 266 services that smaller firewood stuff well. Lacking in a decent 50 but ahhh don't find I need 1 much really

Neither. Get a ms400. It's a nice jump from that to a 90/95cc class saw.

No one said any 50 yr old or 20 yr old saw was adequate for production today Sean . You know Brufab loves his Remingtons , think he has at least 6 running saws . It a hobby he has just like some people collect Vintage Muscle cars that they can't even run on today gasoline lol.

My comment was in response to Bill's reply about his old saws being worth more today, and inferred they are just as relevant now as they were 20 years ago. Which I disagree with strongly. Nothing wrong with them from a nostalgic or collectors standpoint. I have plenty of old saws myself. Still grab the new stuff when I have work to do.

 

[North by Northwest]

Gas consumption certainly got better with the better cylinder designs. Compare a stihl 440/460/660 port layout with those of a 372/390 ETC. The former are archaic crap in comparison to the latter.

They all got better fuel efficiency when epa & 50:1 recommended oil ratios came into effect !

 

[sean donato]

The black powder rifle thing. Here in PA we have a limited inline season and a muzzle loader season, then a late archery.
Surly you guys realize the AR platform comes in many different calibers then .223/5.56. Quite a few that are great deer cartridges inside of 200 yards. But thats another conversation.

 

[North by Northwest]

Xtorqs are still in stock locally. However I would probably go with a 572 if I need a saw. Or a 400c, 462 for that matter.

462 over the 572 !

 

[North by Northwest]

The black powder rifle thing. Here in PA we have a limited inline season and a muzzle loader season, then a late archery.
Surly you guys realize the AR platform comes in many different calibers then .223/5.56. Quite a few that are great deer cartridges inside of 200 yards. But thats another conversation.

Yeah , that would be better a discussion for another day within another forum brother

 

[sean donato]

462 over the 572 !

This just If stihl got the av and airfilter set up better.

 

[North by Northwest]

I said I had no concerns with older saws from the 2000 era oiling longer bars...
Brufab didn't mention anything about older saws.. you interjected all the crap as you often do.
Further, if Brufab is an aficionado of older saws do you really think he's not aware of what you mentioned?

Its all there for you or anyone to read Ben . Brufab Post #95. your reply #98 my clarification #99 your rebuttal about junk #121.