Bait and Switch of the day

[CaseyForrest]

Ass-tro glide? That's bs. You might as well just use mineral oil as that stuff. Whatever though...too much information.

Sorry, but (and we've been over this before) ....no "fits" were thrown until the Stihl dealer nonchalantly said that I was sheet-outta-luck. Wrong answer.

Would you have done any better? I can't say, but I'll tell you what...rather than argue, if the Stihl dealer had offered to 'trade up' on say, a 361 (and given me a little discount on the price difference for my trouble)....we wouldn't be having this conversation. I wouldn't have even had to unclamp the mill from the bar.

Wow, no wonder he didnt like you, trade a 390 for a 361, AND give you some money back?!?!

Its apparent you dont know what astro glide is, but you seem to have an opinion about it. LIke I said earlier, google it, then you will be the resident expert.

 

[THALL10326]

Ass-tro glide? That's bs. You might as well just use mineral oil as that stuff. Whatever though...too much information.

Sorry, but (and we've been over this before) ....no "fits" were thrown until the Stihl dealer nonchalantly said that I was sheet-outta-luck. Wrong answer.

Would you have done any better? I can't say, but I'll tell you what...rather than argue, if the Stihl dealer had offered to 'trade up' on say, a 361 (and given me a little discount on the price difference for my trouble)....we wouldn't be having this conversation. I wouldn't have even had to unclamp the mill from the bar.

Well your sheet-outta-luck trying to convince me mineral oil is good as Astro-Glide, sorry but your full of schit on that, lolol
Seriously about the saw deal your right, you can't say whether I would I have done you better but I can and I would have. It would have been cleared up in 10 minutes or less because I would have took one look and said you want your money back or another saw, simple as that. If Stihl refused to reinburse me for the broken one I would have put a new case on it and sold it as used and still made a few dollars or broke even, no way I could lose nor could you. As far as giving you a discount on another more costly model I may have but that would be my choice, not due to your asking because you weren't due that even though you had a problem with your saw. If you asked in a nice freindly way most likely I would have givin you a break for your trouble. Not that I have to or that you was due it but because thats good customer service and friendly service as well and smart service. I would have gotton that grand you spent at your Husky dealer, I always think ahead. All this proves one thing Sap, not everyone is alike whether it be Stihl, Husky, or who ever, every dealer is different. I know your sore over it and that dealer is probly just as sore over it too. Bringing it in here though and trying to convince everyone you was right is really not important. When you left with your money back in your pocket that should have been the end of it. You can try but you can't convict every Stihl saw in the world because you had a problem with one nor can you convict every dealer because you had a problem with one. You should know that full well by now after months of back and forth. It isn't gonna happen. Your sign, your avitar have become old Sap, its not working anymore, its old news and hell it doesn't even get anyone stirred up anymore because we all know why its there. It does make it easy for everyone to spot your posts and to mix it up with you, thats about all it does. Its a sign of I'm Not Letting Up but as you can see no one is letting up either. I do beleive from looking at some of your posts lately your tiring of the same ole same ole. You still love the bullschit like all of us but I think your tiring of the clash about the saw and brands. If so just say nuff boys, lets fight and fuss and carrying on about something else. There's plenty to fuss about other than the same ole story.
I'd rather argu with you over Astro-Glide because I know your full of schit on that, mineral oil, what the hell is wrong with you Sap, thats the damest thing I ever heard. You know dayumm well Astro-Glide has slipped in more places than mineral oil will ever think about,lol...........................

 

[TwoTurboVolvos]

. You know dayumm well Astro-Glide has slipped in more places than mineral oil will ever think about,lol...........................

I'm kinda new here and don't know the history of Sap, but this is some FUNNY SH*T!
Ron

 

[havvey]

stihl warrenty

since you are the master-bater i need to ask you a troubling question. Stihl used to have a 30 or 90 day warrenty others had 1 to 2 years. some of the dealers around here wouldn't honor much for warrenty work (not covered ,customer fault or over 30 days) So whats new with stihl on that? and would you wiggle out of repair with the 30 day thing?
It troubles me to buy the most exspencive saw and it has the poorest warrenty and i see a lot of them apart over the years (so they do break) you can't say they don't. And what about the 880 or 080 that threw a rod on the first tank of gas and the guy had to call steel directly to get satisfaction as the dealer "not covered" It was on one of these forums.
Oh yes i remember the mac 700 crisis when they had chrome problems and melted engines. it was a tough time and warrenty was not easy but mac went good for them. :jawdrop:

 

[Freakingstang]

Well your sheet-outta-luck trying to convince me mineral oil is good as Astro-Glide, sorry but your full of schit on that, lolol
Seriously about the saw deal your right, you can't say whether I would I have done you better but I can and I would have. It would have been cleared up in 10 minutes or less because I would have took one look and said you want your money back or another saw, simple as that. If Stihl refused to reinburse me for the broken one I would have put a new case on it and sold it as used and still made a few dollars or broke even, no way I could lose nor could you. As far as giving you a discount on another more costly model I may have but that would be my choice, not due to your asking because you weren't due that even though you had a problem with your saw. If you asked in a nice freindly way most likely I would have givin you a break for your trouble. Not that I have to or that you was due it but because thats good customer service and friendly service as well and smart service. I would have gotton that grand you spent at your Husky dealer, I always think ahead. All this proves one thing Sap, not everyone is alike whether it be Stihl, Husky, or who ever, every dealer is different. I know your sore over it and that dealer is probly just as sore over it too. Bringing it in here though and trying to convince everyone you was right is really not important. When you left with your money back in your pocket that should have been the end of it. You can try but you can't convict every Stihl saw in the world because you had a problem with one nor can you convict every dealer because you had a problem with one. You should know that full well by now after months of back and forth. It isn't gonna happen. Your sign, your avitar have become old Sap, its not working anymore, its old news and hell it doesn't even get anyone stirred up anymore because we all know why its there. It does make it easy for everyone to spot your posts and to mix it up with you, thats about all it does. Its a sign of I'm Not Letting Up but as you can see no one is letting up either. I do beleive from looking at some of your posts lately your tiring of the same ole same ole. You still love the bullschit like all of us but I think your tiring of the clash about the saw and brands. If so just say nuff boys, lets fight and fuss and carrying on about something else. There's plenty to fuss about other than the same ole story.
I'd rather argu with you over Astro-Glide because I know your full of schit on that, mineral oil, what the hell is wrong with you Sap, thats the damest thing I ever heard. You know dayumm well Astro-Glide has slipped in more places than mineral oil will ever think about,lol...........................

Tom I like you and your posts, but please, for the love of god, USE PARAGRAPHS! lol


On a more serious note, I went to my local Stihl dealer this past week. I needed a new air filter cover for the "new" 066 I bought and a couple other parts: chain wear guards, chip deflector, etc. I asked if they had a used cover. Sure a shtix they did. It looks almost new and cost me 10 bucks. Now I don't know what a new one costs, but I would surely think that it would be more than 2 times than I paid...

I didn't really think much of it, until I got home and was on here. There is thier dealer sticker on it. You know what it says?

Schlabach Engine LTD
Address
(no phone, as they are amish lol)
In bigger letters than the Schlabach engine is

"SERVICE AFTER THE SALE"

Makes sense to me. I buy all my parts there, and they treat me extremely well, seeings how I haven't ever bought a saw from them.


-Steve

BTW Tom, you got any New huskies in stock that you need to unload? lol

 

[manual]

Ass-tro glide? if the Stihl dealer had offered to 'trade up' on say, a 361 (and given me a little discount on the price difference for my trouble)....we wouldn't be having this conversation. I wouldn't have even had to unclamp the mill from the bar.

Looky Here I know what you are try to say.
1st did the dealer have the same saw on the floor to trade in.
2nd did you ask if the dealer would trade up and you pay the diff. oh and with a lttle discount.
3rd now after talking to other dealers do you realy think tha all sthil dealers are the same?
4th And this one realy is bugging me, Do you think that Mineral oil is better then Astro- glide?

 

[Lakeside53]

L Do you think that Mineral oil is better then Astro- glide?

He either has experience in the matter or ...

Remember, Sap once told us (couple of months back) we could drink bar oil because it was mineral oil and mineral oil was used in laxatives... Hmmmm...

 

[Lakeside53]

I asked if they had a used cover. Sure a shtix they did. It looks almost new and cost me 10 bucks. Now I don't know what a new one costs, but I would surely think that it would be more than 2 times than I paid...

Ha, try nearly 4X! Good deal!

 

[manual]

Remember, Sap once told us (couple of months back) we could drink bar oil because it was mineral oil and mineral oil was used in laxatives... Hmmmm...

No thanks I'll pass.

 

[Finnbear]

He either has experience in the matter or ...

Remember, Sap once told us (couple of months back) we could drink bar oil because it was mineral oil and mineral oil was used in laxatives... Hmmmm...

Sap....mineral oil....laxatives?
Maybe he's full of $#!+
:jester:

 

[Lakeside53]

Sap....mineral oil....laxatives?
Maybe he's full of $#!+
:jester:

I think that was the conclusion in the original thread... someone needs to dig it up...might have been on the milling forum.

My bar oil warning says, with other warnings about cancer in CA, "will cause severe injury or death if injested..."..

 

[04ultra]

Hmmmm, that's odd. If I'm reading this right, this is saying that chainsaw bar oil is a mineral oil based product? What's so bad about that? Mineral oil is what you use to seal a kitchen chopping block or cutting board. You can take a swig of it...in fact it is a laxative...and the worse that will happen is that you'll have loose bowels.

If you're constipated on the job, you've got the laxative right there in your chainsaw. How handy is that?

Andy you mean this....

 

[LarryTheCableGuy]

Good Gawd! That idiot is a menace to society!

Mineral Oil on Wiki

.

 

[THALL10326]

since you are the master-bater i need to ask you a troubling question. Stihl used to have a 30 or 90 day warrenty others had 1 to 2 years. some of the dealers around here wouldn't honor much for warrenty work (not covered ,customer fault or over 30 days) So whats new with stihl on that? and would you wiggle out of repair with the 30 day thing?
It troubles me to buy the most exspencive saw and it has the poorest warrenty and i see a lot of them apart over the years (so they do break) you can't say they don't. And what about the 880 or 080 that threw a rod on the first tank of gas and the guy had to call steel directly to get satisfaction as the dealer "not covered" It was on one of these forums.
Oh yes i remember the mac 700 crisis when they had chrome problems and melted engines. it was a tough time and warrenty was not easy but mac went good for them. :jawdrop:

Havvey first let me say yes they do break just like all others although proven by a 99.7 warranty ratio, meaning 99.7 never come back for warranty, they break less. Thats a fact. No one else can make that claim and they don't. If they could I'm sure they would. Secondly I can't speak for other dealers or how they do warranty work, I can only speak for me and my distributor that backs me up. I have done warranty repair on units 7 plus years old believe it or not, I got the paper work to prove it, no other company is going to do that that I know of. All these warranty issues you bring up seem to stem due to the dealer, not Stihl. Some are very quick indeed to point the finger and blame the customer no matter what, won't argu that. You must remember the dealerships are private, not controlled by Sthil so those people you had your problem with were the dealers, not the company. Why there are bone heads out there like that I have no clue. I can sit here and honestly say 100% I have never been denied a warranty claim by Mid-Atlantic Stihl, my distributor. They have always backed me 100% and the customer 100% each and everytime. I have a very good working relationship with them and due to that I guess they have never let me or a customer down once. I'm not afraid to call and ask if there is something we can do for this guy even though his unit is out of warranty, they always ask the problem and say send us the claim.They have never said no to me or asked if the customer done something wrong. Its always fix it and send us the claim each and everytime. I've yet to be denied. All the things you mentioned are not the company but the dealer. If the dealer doesn't want to be bothered then your right, the warranty is tuff. Far as the guy about the big 88 saw that threw a rod what happened when he got hold of the company instead of the dealer, he got a new saw. I can't speak for anyone but me but I can tell you for a fact Stihl has never once let me or one of my customers go away mad. They have allowed me to do warranty work on units way past the warranty period and paid the bill. As for today if you look at warranties its obvious some are bumping up their time to a extra year not because they want to but becasue they have to in order to compete with Stihl, thats another fact no one wants to hear but its true. To date the extra time on others warranties still hasn't paid off, Stihl cointinues to dominate them all in sales. Has to be a reason for that and that reason is simply a few stories of some bad dealers doesn't show the complete picture. Every maker outthere has bad dealers, I could tell you some stories too that would knock your socks off but its pointless, gonna be good and bad in all but overall Stihl is tops in the business. I know you don't believe it but their sales prove otherwise. You simply can't stay on top for 34 years in a row without some dayumm good reasons. Way too many satisfied customers running around promoting Stihl verses a few downing them. If you think what happened to Sap and the guy with the 088 and what happened with you is bad you haven't seen anything. I've got a Husky dealer about 20 miles from me that pulled off the worst I have ever seen. I told that story on here and noticed no one, not even you said much about it. It was the worst I have ever seen out of any dealer of any brand. His brand had nothing to do with what he did, he was a a--hole just like some of the Stihl dealers you dealt with years ago but I'm betting you none of them pulled off what this guy did. That had to be ultimate worst. Nothing againist you Havvey, just straight talk and nothing more. Fact is there is good and bad in everything. Untill I'm denied a warranty or told hell no, were not covering that I just can't agree with ya. Even so though we can still pester each other, deal?
Sorry Stang, about the paragraphing,lol, but hey how was my "pellin",lol

 

[sawinredneck]

Great post Thall!!

Now SAP, I have seen you have been trying, and I greatly appreciate that, I reallly honestly do!!!! I know you have been catching a lot of flack from others, I am in the middle of the road on that, I try to be easy to get along with, but you have very much stired the pot, fair enough? It may take some time. When someone is trying to antagonize you, be the better man, walk away. that will prove you're worth more than anything you can say!!!! I am by no means being mean or judmental, I can't for any reason think you can be all that bad, I just think it's time to stop and look at the all the stupidity that has gone on, from all sides mind you, and learn from each other, Thats all this web site is for Christ sake, a knowledge base, let us all utilize it to the fullest extint, and have some fun!!!
Andy

 

[THALL10326]

Tom I like you and your posts, but please, for the love of god, USE PARAGRAPHS! lol


On a more serious note, I went to my local Stihl dealer this past week. I needed a new air filter cover for the "new" 066 I bought and a couple other parts: chain wear guards, chip deflector, etc. I asked if they had a used cover. Sure a shtix they did. It looks almost new and cost me 10 bucks. Now I don't know what a new one costs, but I would surely think that it would be more than 2 times than I paid...

I didn't really think much of it, until I got home and was on here. There is thier dealer sticker on it. You know what it says?

Schlabach Engine LTD
Address
(no phone, as they are amish lol)
In bigger letters than the Schlabach engine is

"SERVICE AFTER THE SALE"

Makes sense to me. I buy all my parts there, and they treat me extremely well, seeings how I haven't ever bought a saw from them.


-Steve

BTW Tom, you got any New huskies in stock that you need to unload? lol

You got a new 066, hmmm. Wanna run that thang bud, I just bought one a few weeks ago,lol. Sorry about the paragraphing but hell you should be use to my "books" by now,lol. Haven't come across any Husky freebies for ya of late but if I do I'll let ya know...

 

[lovetheoutdoors]

You got a new 066, hmmm. Wanna run that thang bud, I just bought one a few weeks ago,lol. Sorry about the paragraphing but hell you should be use to my "books" by now,lol. Haven't come across any Husky freebies for ya of late but if I do I'll let ya know...

Thall what are you doing up this late? isnt it past your bed time?:deadhorse: lolol...hows things been going, good i hope.

 

[THALL10326]

Thall what are you doing up this late? isnt it past your bed time?:deadhorse: lolol...hows things been going, good i hope.

Whatcha talking bout man, I'm a young hot stud of only 48. Okkkk ok , well I am 48,lololol. I got Saturday nite off and its good. Ultra can tell ya why, lololol

 

[Freakingstang]

You got a new 066, hmmm. Wanna run that thang bud, I just bought one a few weeks ago,lol. Sorry about the paragraphing but hell you should be use to my "books" by now,lol. Haven't come across any Husky freebies for ya of late but if I do I'll let ya know...

It is new to me, and isn't in bad shape, except the air filter cover was cracked. I will mainly use this a a mill saw. I don't have the mill yet, but want to get one soon. I don't plan on doing any mods to it, other than the dual port muffler cover that I have already installed. I spend a lot of time on the road and found this one up in detroit for a real good price. I will run it and take some vids with the same chain on my 365 piped saw, 372, and 046. I am on my way to pick up a 050 16" bar for the huskys now, so I can run the same chain....All in due time. Been a little busy lately... Oh, and they don't have to be freebies, I can pay for them you know lol.

-Steve

 

[CaseyForrest]

Steve, shot me a part number on that air filter cover you have, I have two of them, different. If one of them matches, Ill send it to you.