Been playing with a MS400C

[Stihl User]

You hear back from your dealer on the 400?

could not make it today - looking for a muff cover

 

[Stihl User]

at this point i really do not care if he squaks about the muff mod

 

[bwalker]

If on the table were presented a MS500i and a SOLO 681 = 95% would grab the MS500i

those of us who are not persuaded by Stihl loyalty and BLING would grab the 681

Almost no one would pick an obscure saw by a rinky dink company that isn't even making saws anymore. At least no one that really thought about it.

 

[bwalker]

never said it was more difficult to fix as i agree with what you said = 2 stroke

the issue is mtronics removes the FREE adjustable carb

also no additional equipment needed = i do not need to plug-in my 460 for diagnostics

The 360,440,and 460 in their day were antiquated boat anchors compared to Husky saws of the that era.
The new stuff is just better in every respect and Mtronic/Autotune is of great benefit to most guys. Both systems are also stupid simple.

 

[North by Northwest]

Weight,Vibes? and you would buy a 400 and a 462 but not a 500 it dont add up. Why aint all of us running Solos then?

To poor a distributorship & shabby dealer network for Solo to actually gain any traction , same nitche scenario as Dolkita !

 

[Stihl User]

Update for all the Mad Scientists on here:

at the Dealer today with the 400c

a.) 17 hours on saw
b.) computer is forcing the saw to run rich
c.) Mechanic inspected (as i did twice) C&P = no scoring = shiny like new
d.) His guess = bad carb or air leak
e.) $50 to find out exactly which goes directly to repair
f.) frackin computers are stupid = buy a FREE Carb saw

Now that we have that settled - we should now discuss the BS of a 3 month warranty period
ESPECIALLY now that the MTronics can give a hour reading!!! = HELLO

Maybe i should open up a discrimination lawsuit against Stihl with it's Homeowner vs Commercial warranty

Well, while that 400c sits in repair
my REAL saws are singing in the air
no more C for me
i'm trying to keep my hair

 

[lone wolf]

To poor a distributorship & shabby dealer network for Solo to actually gain any traction , same nitche scenario as Dolkita !

I think Solo is out of business ,but Dolmar parts are still available for their saws.

 

[Stihl User]

I think Solo is out of business ,but Dolmar parts are still available for their saws.

Dolmar/Makita are slowly shutting down their gas saw production

ELECTRIC CITY is where THEY are leading everyone to with California leading the way.

In order for the Great Reset to be fully activated they must do away with gas/petrol

 

[Stihl User]

I think Solo is out of business ,but Dolmar parts are still available for their saws.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=25...i=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA

 

[Stihl User]

Dolmar/Makita are slowly shutting down their gas saw production

ELECTRIC CITY is where THEY are leading everyone to with California leading the way.

In order for the Great Reset to be fully activated they must do away with gas/petrol

 

[bwalker]

Update for all the Mad Scientists on here:



at the Dealer today with the 400c



a.) 17.5 hours on saw

b.) computer is forcing the saw to run rich

c.) Mechanic inspected (as i did twice) C&P = no scoring = shiny like new

d.) His guess = bad carb or air leak

e.) $50 to find out exactly which goes directly to repair

f.) frackin computers are stupid = buy a FREE Carb saw



Now that we have that settled - we should now discuss the BS of a 3 month warranty period

ESPECIALLY now that the MTronics can give a hour reading!!! = HELLO



Maybe i should open up a discrimination lawsuit against Stihl with it's Homeowner vs Commercial warranty



Well, while that 400c sits in repair

my REAL saws are singing in the air

no more C for me

i'm trying to keep my hair

Yea those electronics sure suck. The mechanic knew what was wrong with it via the electronic interface in minutes and it saved your saw from burning up...

 

[bwalker]

I think Solo is out of business ,but Dolmar parts are still available for their saws.

Some Dolmar parts are no longer available. Parts were always an issue with Dolmar so now that they are out of the gas saw business the will deplete there very low existing stocks faster than Stihl or Husky would.

 

[bwalker]

To poor a distributorship & shabby dealer network for Solo to actually gain any traction , same nitche scenario as Dolkita !

This is true, but I will also add that with these niche saws it's almost impossible for the consumer to get any sort of idea on if they are reliable or not given there are so few in the field. Hard to build a trend with a small sample size.

 

[lone wolf]

Yea those electronics sure suck. The mechanic knew what was wrong with it via the electronic interface in minutes and it saved your saw from burning up...

I love all mine.

 

[Stihl User]

Yea those electronics sure suck. The mechanic knew what was wrong with it via the electronic interface in minutes and it saved your saw from burning up...

the C is what sucks as this episode would not be right now
i already knew that there was the possiblity of a air leak
and - HELLO - even with the electronics = they do not know the cause as yet

There may not even be a air-leak as it could be the MTronics itself malfunctioning just as computers do

 

[bwalker]

the C is what sucks as this episode would not be right now
i already knew that there was the possiblity of a air leak
and - HELLO - even with the electronics = they do not know the cause as yet

There may not even be a air-leak as it could be the MTronics itself malfunctioning just as computers do

If you thought it was an air leak why didn't you test for that before you took it in.
I think you might be better off just having the dealer fix it...

 

[lone wolf]

If you thought it was an air leak why didn't you test for that before you took it in.
I think you might be better off just having the dealer fix it...

You know he had the carb apart two times already?

 

[Seachaser]

Yeah, I think we've been throughly trolled. Hook, line, and sinker....

I think this is a troll thread. If I took the 8 month old saw to a dealer, I wouldn’t bring it home unless it was fixed. Cases closed. I’m out.

 

[Stihl User]

I think this is a troll thread. If I took the 8 month old saw to a dealer, I wouldn’t bring it home unless it was fixed. Cases closed. I’m out.

Saw was taken today to the Dealer for first time and there it is getting fixed.

 

[PV Hiker]

Update for all the Mad Scientists on here:
at the Dealer today with the 400c

a.) 17 hours on saw
b.) computer is forcing the saw to run rich
c.) Mechanic inspected (as i did twice) C&P = no scoring = shiny like new
d.) His guess = bad carb or air leak
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It is unclear that the proper recalibration process was carried out after the fuel solenoid was installed???

Chainsaw Recalibration

STIHL M-Tronic Engine Management System is designed to make sure that your petrol tool delivers an optimum performance, all day, every day, by making automatic adjustments to regulate the fuel and air mix to the machine.

There are a couple of instances where you may need to reset the STIHL M-Tronic technology on your machine. If you carry out any work on the fuel system, such as changing a solenoid valve, replacing or cleaning a carburetor or even just replacing an old fuel filter, you will need to do an M-Tronic reset. If you find that the chainsaw isn’t running as expected (for example, not revving to its full potential), it is always worth resetting your machine as this may offer a quick and simple resolution.

There are two methods to reset a petrol machine with STIHL M-Tronic as there have been a number of new and improved versions of M-Tronic launched over the years.

Method 1 is for petrol machines with STIHL M-Tronic technology 2.0 or lower, and

Method 2 for Machines with M-Tronic 2.1 or higher.

It’s easy to tell which version you have by looking at the C-E label. Machines with M-Tronic 2.1 or higher are shown on the label highlighted here. If it’s not marked on the C-E label as M2.1 or M3.0, then it is likely you have an older version of M-Tronic technology.

*Should have used this method for the 400C-M*

Method for resetting STIHL M-Tronic 2.1 or higher:

1. Remove the scabbard

2. Ensure the chain brake is on

3. Put the machine in the ▲ Cold start position

4. Start the machine and run it in the ▲ Cold start position for at least 30 seconds but no more than 60 seconds

5. Do not touch the throttle or accelerate the chainsaw during this time

6. Turn off the chain brake

7. Squeeze the throttle fully for at least 30 seconds

8. Engine speed varies noticeably during calibration

9. As soon as the engine speed drops noticeably, release the throttle

10. When the engine is back to idle speed, put the chain brake on and switch off your chainsaw

11. Your chainsaw is now calibrated and ready for operation

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Method 1 for STIHL M-Tronic re-set:

1. Remove the scabbard

2. Put the machine in the ▲ Cold start position

3. Start the machine and run it in the ▲ Cold start position for at least 90 seconds

4. Do not touch the throttle or accelerate the chainsaw during this time

5. After 90 seconds, switch off the machine

6. Your machine is now re-calibrated and ready for operation

Always double check your Instruction Manual to make sure you are following the right reset procedure – you can find copies of STIHL Instruction Manuals at stihl.co.uk