Been playing with a MS400C

[Stihl User]

Come again?

Power (hp) to Weight (lb) ratio:
Stihl 500i - 6.7hp / 13.9lbs = .48
Stihl 462 - 6.0hp / 13.2lbs = .45

Below is all IMHO

that's on paper with the hp = i go by actual in wood cutting AND weight in my hands

so on paper the 500i edges out the 462 but in my hands the P2W goes with the 462

this is measurable on a 'Bell Curve' as once you reach the Peak you start dropping off with added weight(fatigue)

AGAIN - each person is a individual with individual perspectives and decision making = IMHO

 

[sean donato]

never said it was more difficult to fix as i agree with what you said = 2 stroke

the issue is mtronics removes the FREE adjustable carb

also no additional equipment needed = i do not need to plug-in my 460 for diagnostics

No, mtronics takes the idiot that doesn't know how to tune out of the saw. It's a carb. Regular old carb with a fuel solenoid on its side. Everyone gets hung up on the solenoid and 3 extra wires and crys fowl. This is no different then everyone crying in the 80's when vehicles went to fuel Injection or the 70's when points were finally phased out. (Well no one cried about that, that had a brain.)
All the symptoms you've said you've had can be had in a carbed saw as well. Faulty coil, pinched fuel line etc. It's basic stuff. No can bus, 64 bit processors, multi ecu, 80 sensors, 2 inch thick harnesses. Just easy simple stuff to work on. You got a lemon and I really do sympathize with you, but the fact remains there was plenty of simple troubleshooting steeps thay you couldn't/ wouldn't do. If Wolfe doesn't buy that 400 from you I'll gladly take it off your hands.

 

[sean donato]

Below is all IMHO

that's on paper with the hp = i go by actual in wood cutting AND weight in my hands

so on paper the 500i edges out the 462 but in my hands the P2W goes with the 462

this is measurable on a 'Bell Curve' as once you reach the Peak you start dropping off with added weight(fatigue)

AGAIN - each person is a individual with individual perspectives and decision making = IMHO

If you've never ran a 500, then you can't comment on power to weight ratio. Of both saws.

 

[Stihl User]

If you've never ran a 500, then you can't comment on power to weight ratio. Of both saws.

i was right next to someone cutting = REAL Time

My Echo 590 was right next to it and very close

i have cut with the 462 and LOVE it - the added weight without added power of the 500i canceled it for me

AGAIN - that is my personal BIAS from my body telling me

 

[lone wolf]

If on the table were presented a MS500i and a SOLO 681 = 95% would grab the MS500i

those of us who are not persuaded by Stihl loyalty and BLING would grab the 681

i was right next to someone cutting = REAL Time

My Echo 590 was right next to it and very close

i have cut with the 462 and LOVE it - the added weight without added power of the 500i canceled it for me

AH BS!

 

[Stihl User]

AH BS!

SOLO 681 all the WAY

 

[sean donato]

i was right next to someone cutting = REAL Time

My Echo 590 was right next to it and very close

i have cut with the 462 and LOVE it - the added weight without added power of the 500i canceled it for me

AGAIN - that is my personal BIAS from my body telling me

You never ran it, your body didn't tell you squat.

 

[lone wolf]

SOLO 681 all the WAY

No one on here will ever take you serious now ! Congrats!

 

[lone wolf]

You never ran it, your body didn't tell you squat.

Just forget it! None of us all combined can tell the omniscient one anything.

 

[sean donato]

Just forget it!

Yeah, I think we've been throughly trolled. Hook, line, and sinker....

 

[lone wolf]

Yeah, I think we've been throughly trolled. Hook, line, and sinker....

Yup poser! Now we need to figure out what his main mission is.

 

[Stihl User]

You never ran it, your body didn't tell you squat.

Solo 681 same weight same power

 

[Stihl User]

I have too many saws now

NIB Dolmar 7900
new condition MS460 (just sold my lightly used 460)
NIB MS361
DCS -6401 with New OEM 7901 C&P
newly purchased Echo 620p
MS400c
MS261
501p soon to replaced with a Ported 261
New 201T
Rear handle 201
CS-361p
3x CS-2511T
CS-271T
CS-340T soon to be replaced with a Stihl 194T
Makita 401

Stihl MS462 is what i'm looking at for near future = i do not need the 500i

 

[sean donato]

Solo 681 same weight same

So why isn't it in your list of saws?

 

[Stihl User]

So why isn't it in your list of saws?

So why isn't it in your list of saws?

 

[sean donato]

So why do you want a 462?

 

[Stihl User]

So why isn't it in your list of saws?

 

[Stihl User]

Made the mistake of selling - did not know at the time that they were being discontinued

 

[sean donato]

You hear back from your dealer on the 400?

 

[Stihl User]

So why do you want a 462?

Lymes in my body since age 21 and it's not getting better