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I know I will get in trouble for asking, but I have put stuff in the Swap meet thread....I am looking for a 24inch or so bar for that new xl-904. I had a large bar offered.its 404 and very long. I dont think it would be a good idea.

I would like something original Homelite . Let me know what you have.

What "very long" .404 bar were you offered? Depending on what you've got, I'd probably trade my 24" Windsor Speed Tip replaceable sprocket nose 3/8" XL-series Homelite bar for it. The original Homelite bars of this type were Windsor Speed Tips. Can't remember if mine was sold as a Homelite bar. All a fellow'd have to do to make a Speed Tip look original would be to strip it and paint it with one of the Sugar Creek bar stancils. If I keep this bar that's what's going to happen to it, plus the 16" and 20" Speed Tips I have for these saws..:cheers:
 
What "very long" .404 bar were you offered? Depending on what you've got, I'd probably trade my 24" Windsor Speed Tip replaceable sprocket nose 3/8" XL-series Homelite bar for it. The original Homelite bars of this type were Windsor Speed Tips. Can't remember if mine was sold as a Homelite bar. All a fellow'd have to do to make a Speed Tip look original would be to strip it and paint it with one of the Sugar Creek bar stancils. If I keep this bar that's what's going to happen to it, plus the 16" and 20" Speed Tips I have for these saws..:cheers:

A 33 inch 404 bar from a 750
 
Nope I can put you in touch with him if you like.

Go ahead and PM me the contact info. It'll be a "back burner" thing for me though. I just was offering you a trade because you need a bar. If we'd have traded, I'd probably have turned around and traded the 33" bar to a local friend (to use on his 750's) for a 28" 3/8"-.050 bar for this series. 33" .404 is a bit much for 'average' use on my XL903. I'll probably just keep this 24" bar for that saw, since it's the only one of this pattern over 20" that I have.

Windsor and Oregon still make bars for this saw series BTW. Check Baileys for 'em. They have closeouts in this pattern sometimes too (usually Carlton and GB). Plenty of Homelite and Poulan branded Oregon and Windsor bars that'd fit on feebay too. They could always be stripped and stenciled as well...
 
XL700/800/900-Series Cylinder and Piston Confusion....

Aside from the bore differences (2" and 2-1/16"), Homelite has used different exhaust port shapes, compression ratios, and comp releases (or lack of 'em) on these engines. I can't make any sense of the changes. There doesn't seem to be any 'time line' or other logical reasoning (such as price point) behind the changes in charactaristics. Can any of you Homelite gurus help make sense of it all?

Within the two displacements (77 and 82cc), which cylinders are more desireable from a performance standpoint? Also, which pistons were intended to be used with which jugs............and what (if any) pistons could be substitued? I don't know if the pistons ever had different dome heights. I do know that some used thin rings, while others used the same thick rings as some of the older 5.01ci Homelites.

I've seen bridged 'rectangular' exhaust port cylinders (where the port opening almost matches the muffler flange) as well as 'oval' unbridged port cylinders, both with and without comp releases. I don't know what changes were made in combustion chamber volume or porting. I've heard/read that the late XL925 saws were somehow detuned in an effort to battle overheating issues. I've heard it was done through a displacement drop back to 77 cc, and possibly thruogh a compresson ratio drop and porting change. I don't know if there's any truth to this. Saws of both displacements were made throughout the series life.

If somebody has a list of which part and casting numbers are better than others, then that'd be great. Both of the cylinders I have now are 2-1/16" bore oval-port, non CR equipped jugs. I've mostly seen the oval-port jugs on XL98 series demo saws, but have seen them on some XL925's as well. All kinds of unknowns here....
 
Aaron, you're asking some great questions. I've pondered similar questions , but never found any good answers. Always been interested in how a saw manufacturer like Homelite dealt with the subs for making components. For instance, Phelon and Wico made ignition components for probably 95% of US manufactured saws back in the day. Question is would Phelon come out with an ignition component and Homelite buid its saw around it, or would Homelite provide a spec to Phelon to build a specific part to fit the saw Homelite already drew up on paper? May have happened both ways in different cases.....

You may ask what's this gotta do with 700/800/900 series cylinders... well point is I imagine Homelite dealt with some sub for the cylinders the same as for other parts. I've seen Alcoa on some cylinders, and I know at least on some later models, Mahle made 'em. You see Alcoa on most older mag castings and Lunt on the newer stuff. Maybe Homelite had a foundry and cast their own cylinders, but I bet everything was farmed out to somebody like Alcoa. Man it's be great to learn the real scoop on this stuff.

Anyways, the question comes up, did Homelite provide all the engineering specs to build cylinder/pistons, or did a sub figure out the details? Did all the changes in the 700/800/900 come about because Homelite designed it, or because a sub changed the details? Again, it may very likely have been a mixing of the minds, but at this point, there's nothing but speculation. Facts would be great, but where the heck to find 'em?

Dan
 
Well I was really looking for a yellow saw, but got outbid by$1.87 on a nice looking 850. Made an offer a Super XL 925. Should be arriving next week. Looks to be in pretty good shape, may need a little starter repair. What can you Homelite guys! tell me about it? I run 50:1 in all my Husky's. Should I do 40:1 in this one? Thanks!
 
PM850?

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No case splittin' for a 350/360, but I've always separated the tank/handle assembly from the engine to check the boot and pulse line all at the same time. Wouldn't have to though, just for the fuel line.

Use the fishing line trick to feed the line through the tank. Cut the fuel line at an angle and tie some fishing line on the end. Feed the other end of the fishing line into the tank through the hole and grab it through the gas filler opening. Forceps are handy here. Some light oil will help the fuel line slide through. Pull the fishing line and work the fuel line at the same time until its pulled through enough to grab the fuel line at the filler opening. Pull enough for enough length for the filter to sit on the tank bottom, cut off the angle and slide on the filter. Drop back into the tank. Cut other end to length to reach the carb.

Dan
 
No case splittin' for a 350/360, but I've always separated the tank/handle assembly from the engine to check the boot and pulse line all at the same time. Wouldn't have to though, just for the fuel line.

Use the fishing line trick to feed the line through the tank. Cut the fuel line at an angle and tie some fishing line on the end. Feed the other end of the fishing line into the tank through the hole and grab it through the gas filler opening. Forceps are handy here. Some light oil will help the fuel line slide through. Pull the fishing line and work the fuel line at the same time until its pulled through enough to grab the fuel line at the filler opening. Pull enough for enough length for the filter to sit on the tank bottom, cut off the angle and slide on the filter. Drop back into the tank. Cut other end to length to reach the carb.

Dan

ALRIGHT,that's good news! Didn't know if it was that way or not.I've already got the tygon and a new filter so it should be back in action in no time.By the way,any of you ever run a ported 360? This one was ported before I got it by a guy here in Joplin by the name of Ernie House and it has got some serious power for a 30 yr. old saw.It's running a 20 incher with 3/8 chisel and flies through wood. Dan :msp_thumbup:
 
to prevent this thread from becoming any more pathetic, I'm adding some pictures of the new to me saw....enjoy!

It has monster compression, haven't measured yet but you can feel it
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Fuel line is broken and it looks to be missing something from the back, I think? just by looking at the holes in the tank/case, but it's a guess until I dig into the IPL and manual.
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New style muffler, may even be a replacement, again have to look.
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Nice 1/2" roller bar and chain
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