McCulloch Chain Saws

[CM76]

Nice one Randy. I have a few of these.

Cliff, you have enough lunchboxes in tow to feed a logging camp! They are all in nice condition from the look of them, and that ever dependable bow looks really cool on these odd styled Macs.

Sweet old beasts I say! :msp_wink:

Chris.

 

[watsonr]

Looking to see what the 10-10 family includes and what parts are common between a few of these models?

10-10
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70
700
850

 

[Eccentric]

Looking to see what the 10-10 family includes and what parts are common between a few of these models?

10-10
55
70
700
850

Here's my ProMac 10-10. 54cc. Steel cylinder liner. Chainbrake. Clutch cover has the 'muffler guard' extension cast into it. SA muffler. Points ignition (later saws of this model have an electronic ignition. Walbro SDC carb. LH start.

 

[rwoods]

Cliff, you have enough lunchboxes in tow to feed a logging camp! They are all in nice condition from the look of them, and that ever dependable bow looks really cool on these odd styled Macs.

Sweet old beasts I say! :msp_wink:

Chris.

Or as previously implied - enough boat anchors to hold back a barge! Seriously, nice looking saws. The bows looks great especially the lightening holes. I must say however, that the blade - I mean bar - angle on the straight bars don't look to have been approved by a Swedish ergonomic engineer. :msp_wink: Ron

 

[Eccentric]

Or as previously implied - enough boat anchors to hold back a barge! Seriously, nice looking saws. The bows looks great especially the lightening holes. I must say however, that the blade - I mean bar - angle on the straight bars don't look to have been approved by a Swedish ergonomic engineer. :msp_wink: Ron

It does actually work out pretty well for ripping however, and these old beasts excel at that...

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Here's another old beast

Since some of you think these old 80s are going to be worth something some day, thought I'd tidy up the old 1-42 and get it running. Points were real bad, so cleaned them up, spark is good now and it ran when I put fuel in it. Gas tank leaked so I filled the bottom corner of it up with JB Weld to see if it holds. I tried a new product(to me) in lieu of a gas tank gasket, so I'm letting it dry right now. If it doesn't hold I'll try to find a gasket for it.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

That was the before pics I put up there. Here's what it looks like today.

 

[watsonr]

Here's my ProMac 10-10. 54cc. Steel cylinder liner. Chainbrake. Clutch cover has the 'muffler guard' extension cast into it. SA muffler. Points ignition (later saws of this model have an electronic ignition. Walbro SDC carb. LH start.

That saw is a nice one, had one of them last year and sold it. Mine was missing the muffler cover. They make a bigger set of dawgs for the saw, think is has 4 spikes on it, maybe the PNW version? Is that .......safety chain on that saw?

Nice clean looking saw.

 

[dieselsmoke]

Mac 10-10

I got a big chuckle out of the boys mod'n their wildthings. See Wildthing races at ??? GTG. I read thru several pages, and a couple of them sounded pretty nice. This got me thinking about cheaply manufactured clam designs, and why not start out with something that is many steps ahead of the plastic wildthing. ala the Mac 10-10, It seems everybody here has one, or two, or three....


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[Eccentric]

That was the before pics I put up there. Here's what it looks like today.

Nicely done Mr Palmer!

That saw is a nice one, had one of them last year and sold it. Mine was missing the muffler cover. They make a bigger set of dawgs for the saw, think is has 4 spikes on it, maybe the PNW version? Is that .......safety chain on that saw?

Nice clean looking saw.

Thanks. Yep, that's safety chain. For some reason, many of the old saws I've been getting from CL have had loops of safety chain on 'em. These were saws that wouldn't have had safety chain to begin with...........so the loops are replacements. Three XL12/SXL saws and the 10-10 all came to me wearing bumper link chain...

Got a Homelite SXL with a 24" Windsor Speed Tip replaceable sprocket nose bar............and a loop of safety chain on it. That's an odd combination. I'm saving that bar for an XL900 series saw too. The chain will be a 'beater loop'. The loop on the PM10-10 is the safety version of Oregon 72 chisel. Cutters and rakers look very new. Not more than a few sharpenings on 'em. The drivers don't look like they've taken many laps around the bar either.

I got a big chuckle out of the boys mod'n their wildthings. See Wildthing races at ??? GTG. I read thru several pages, and a couple of them sounded pretty nice. This got me thinking about cheaply manufactured clam designs, and why not start out with something that is many steps ahead of the plastic wildthing. ala the Mac 10-10, It seems everybody here has one, or two, or three....

I think the modified WT thing is a way to have a bit of fun with dirt cheap saws. Modified 10-10's would be a hoot. We'd have to measure bores on 'competitors' saws, as many guys would swap in a 70cc 5-10 block to get a 'leg up'. I know I would...:hmm3grin2orange:

I believe RandyMac's brother used to mod the crap out of 10-10 saws back in the day. Made real beasts out of them. He won't give up his secrets now however...

 

[dieselsmoke]

Mac 10-10

To make this little saw run, It needs to breeeeathe, at about 10,000 rpm. OK, that may be optimistic.
Step 1. open up the exhaust, open up the intake, boost compression, oops cant do that with clamshell design. Increase ignition advance.
I didn't open mine up to grind on the intake side just yet. I gave the muff a bit of high speed steel, and set the points to get max advance. stock is 26 deg. I want to get 28 deg.

 

[dieselsmoke]

AAron, I tried to get specific info from Randy, just to many years past. But it was his stories that inspired me to look into the 10-10. And just so you know, the 10-10 is a test mule befor the 7-10....
Please, take your grinder to those bumpers, you'll have a useable chain.:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Eccentric]

To make this little saw run, It needs to breeeeathe, at about 10,000 rpm. OK, that may be optimistic.
Step 1. open up the exhaust, open up the intake, boost compression, oops cant do that with clamshell design. Increase ignition advance.
I didn't open mine up to grind on the intake side just yet. I gave the muff a bit of high speed steel, and set the points to get max advance. stock is 26 deg. I want to get 28 deg.

Yikes! My ears hurt just looking at that muffler pic. The X-10 family saws are hard on the ears as it is...:msp_ohmy:

Looks like you're on your way. I bet you won't have any trouble getting that saw north of 10K..

 

[Darnell]

Eager Beaver and Wildcat??

Ok I need some quick info. A friend told me about a guy selling a Eager Beaver and a Wildcat but he did not know the price. The saws have not run in several years and I am thinking about making a offer. What is a fair offer and are the wildcats any good I have never heard of them?? ?

 

[Eccentric]

AAron, I tried to get specific info from Randy, just to many years past. But it was his stories that inspired me to look into the 10-10. And just so you know, the 10-10 is a test mule befor the 7-10....
Please, take your grinder to those bumpers, you'll have a useable chain.:hmm3grin2orange:

We talked about it. He said that his bro refuses to give the info up. Randy suspects that his bro just can't remember. Many hard miles...

Grinding those bumpers ain't worth the effort. I'd rather just buy another loop or two of non-bumper chain from Baileys. Bumper chains are for stumpin' and buckin' crappy/dirty wood...

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Nicely done Mr Palmer!



Thanks. Yep, that's safety chain. For some reason, many of the old saws I've been getting from CL have had loops of safety chain on 'em. These were saws that wouldn't have had safety chain to begin with...........so the loops are replacements. Three XL12/SXL saws and the 10-10 all came to me wearing bumper link chain...

Got a Homelite SXL with a 24" Windsor Speed Tip replaceable sprocket nose bar............and a loop of safety chain on it. That's an odd combination. I'm saving that bar for an XL900 series saw too. The chain will be a 'beater loop'. The loop on the PM10-10 is the safety version of Oregon 72 chisel. Cutters and rakers look very new. Not more than a few sharpenings on 'em. The drivers don't look like they've taken many laps around the bar either.



I think the modified WT thing is a way to have a bit of fun with dirt cheap saws. Modified 10-10's would be a hoot. We'd have to measure bores on 'competitors' saws, as many guys would swap in a 70cc 5-10 block to get a 'leg up'. I know I would...:hmm3grin2orange:

I believe RandyMac's brother used to mod the crap out of 10-10 saws back in the day. Made real beasts out of them. He won't give up his secrets now however...

I have a Homelite Zip with a roller nose bar and safety chain on it...no, I don't think it's original!

 

[Eccentric]

Ok I need some quick info. A friend told me about a guy selling a Eager Beaver and a Wildcat but he did not know the price. The saws have not run in several years and I am thinking about making a offer. What is a fair offer and are the wildcats any good I have never heard of them?? ?

Non runners of those models are freebies. Now, the "Eager Beaver" could be one of several models. McCulloch used that name on a bunch of models. If it's a 3.7, then you're looking at a PM610 variant. A non-runner still isn't worth much.....but isn't complete crap like many of the other "EB" saws. If the P/C are in good shape then it's worth $20 or so to me (localy). I'm not crazy about those saws though...

 

[8433jeff]

Ok I need some quick info. A friend told me about a guy selling a Eager Beaver and a Wildcat but he did not know the price. The saws have not run in several years and I am thinking about making a offer. What is a fair offer and are the wildcats any good I have never heard of them?? ?

Doing the work yourself will help the price sitch, but not your blood pressure. If its not the 600 series saw, they did make a EB in the Wildcat vintage, and the parts will interchange readily. I'll bet it is the little ankle biter though, and those are "fun" to work on. Start a collection of things you can't afford to make run, thats always fun.

 

[Darnell]

Thanks, I was mostly interested in the EB. My dad had a mini mac in the 70s that was a great little saw so I miss it. Just found out they are on CL for $75, Think I will skip those.

 

[rwoods]

clutch interchange

Does any one know if the drum and bearing for the 125 will interchange with the mass of other MACs such as the 1- series, 250, 790 etc.? My bearings are shot and every 125 clutch that shows up on eBay always exceeds my bid by a considerable margin. But the others show up regularily and even NOS are very reasonable. Thanks, Ron