MS441 R C-M M-Tronic Review and Mods

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Well everyone you'll have to wait until tomorrow or Saturday for the video, I'd do it today, but the sun's going down + I'm beat. Mike thanks again for sending the saw my way, I think I'm really going to like it. :msp_smile:
 
You know I think you're right about that, as they're older saws. I was thinking more about the 372, 385/390.

Yes I think all their large 'modern' saws now have inboards, which is good because I prefer them when swapping bars over a lot and when the bar gets seriously pinched... not so good with an outboard.

On another note, what do you think about the ventilated clutch drum - I think some wood chips may find their way in there...
 
Your welcome andre. I can't wait to see how it runs.

The ventilated drum really doesn't get much more stuff behind it than the non slotted.
 
Your welcome andre. I can't wait to see how it runs.

The ventilated drum really doesn't get much more stuff behind it than the non slotted.

Me too!!!

The vented drum will have 0 effect on the saw, any wood chips will be burnt up like normal. With all the spinning not much will gets in there anyway, a lot of saws have had vented clutches and it's never been an issue, I like it.

Few more pics of the 576 next to the 441. The 576 sure has a tall hat, but it's overall size is a little smaller and more narrow than the 441, but not by much. The 576 is likely a bit lighter as well, both saws are really similar in feel so far, I'll really know when I start cutting.

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73.5 cc if I remember right. I know it needs some larger dawgs and i'll probably end up with a full wrap on it later on.
 
I'm not sure that is recommended, if I recall the saw needs to be ran in a good size log for a few minutes to allow the electronic system to set or reset. If you don't do this the saw could run lean, at least that's what I remember reading.:cheers:
 
Thanks For the heads up Spike. I was going to ask you about how to run it, 5-10 minutes in a good size log to allow the carb to adjust it's self correct?

Yup, put it to work right away. The 576 doesn't come with an outer dog, although you can see that the side cover has the hole to mount one. (Shares it's side cover with the 372 and 390, other than the silver paint). Along with the vented clutch drum it was part of the weight reduction program from it's porky predecessor, the 575. Another small thing they did was go 1 or 2 MM smaller diameter on the top handle. Every little bit helps I guess.

One thing that everybody notices with the 576 is that it's super smooth, so I'm interested to hear your opinion on that. Smoothest saw I've ever run.
 
Yup, put it to work right away. The 576 doesn't come with an outer dog, although you can see that the side cover has the hole to mount one. (Shares it's side cover with the 372 and 390, other than the silver paint). Along with the vented clutch drum it was part of the weight reduction program from it's porky predecessor, the 575. Another small thing they did was go 1 or 2 MM smaller diameter on the top handle. Every little bit helps I guess.

One thing that everybody notices with the 576 is that it's super smooth, so I'm interested to hear your opinion on that. Smoothest saw I've ever run.

That's what I thought thanks.:cheers:

I felt the 575 I ran was a little smoother than the 441. The smoothest saw I've ever ran to date is the Dolmar 5100, but the 575 and my 362 are very close. I'll be sure to let everyone know.
 
That's about all I know, so I'll quit now:) Have you started the 576 yet? Might as well get a couple heat cycles on the piston.

No need for heat cycles, they don't do it at the factory. Do like Spike said put it in some big wood and let er rip
 
Perception. The 7900 simply makes no fuss, it goes about it's business calm, smooth and quiet.

Empirical observation - side by side comparison. It is a stronger saw - period. The Stihl 046 mag has a wider powerband and cuts faster than the 7900 in bigger wood. The 7900 is a good saw, but it is second to the 046MAG for anything but cookies. 7900 owners are nearly as bad 346xp owners. Especially the ones that use their saws for mostly cookies...
 
The 441 has no choke? The switch looks to only have an "on" and "off" position? I guess the M-Tronic takes care of all that stuff for you. Is the Husky the same way?
 
The 576 has a choke lever there but i'm not sure if you have to pull til it pops or what. Brad commented on how the 441 started but I can't remember what is was. It has 3 settings so i'm guessing no high idle setting.
 
Empirical observation - side by side comparison. It is a stronger saw - period. The Stihl 046 mag has a wider powerband and cuts faster than the 7900 in bigger wood. The 7900 is a good saw, but it is second to the 046MAG for anything but cookies. 7900 owners are nearly as bad 346xp owners. Especially the ones that use their saws for mostly cookies...

I can't believe you said that. You been into the English beer again Wes?
 
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