Did you paint or anodize your flywheel? It looks good all the way around.
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Aviator25,That's one heck of a nice job on the saw.Are you also using a compressor and spray gun?
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Aviator25,That's one heck of a nice job on the saw.Are you also using a compressor and spray gun?
Lawrence
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Aviator25, it's great to see another Pioneer fan appear on the site, and someone with interest in the second generation of saws. I've always liked the saws from the 70's and would like to make room for a couple some day. That's some nice work you've done there. Welcome to the site.
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I went to an automotive place that mixed up the color paint that I wanted and put it into cans for me. The color you see on the flywheel is not anodizing, its zinc chromate primer.
Here is the story behind the saw. My father had a very close freind who used to work in the lumber industry and this was his saw. My father and him used to injoy going out together and cutting fire wood for the winter. He was not much of a mechanic and would have my father do repairs and up-keep on his saw. After time he stopped cutting wood because of bad helth and one day came to my father with the saw. He was quite upset because his son had took his saw without asking and ran it with out oil mix, and it would not start. He asked my father to repair the saw and after taking it apart he found the main bearings and seals had gone. Oddly enough the piston, rings and cylinder didn't seem to be that bad though there was some scarring. Dad tryed to find a new piston and jug but had no luck (this was before the internet). He put the saw together with new bearings and seals and the saw seem to run just fine. When he presented it to his friend his friend told him that he wanted my father to keep the saw. Shortly after that he died, the saw is all my father has to remember him by. After running for a time the saw finally gave into the damage that had been done to the piston and cylinder and the saw found its self on a dusty corner of a work bench. I kept an eye out on the internet (this was before I knew of this place) and one day found someone who had a used but in GREAT shape piston, rings and jug. I pulled the saw down, stripped the paint, primed and repainted it, installed all new bearings, seals, gaskets, points, air filter, fuel line, carb kit, bar, and chain. I think it brought a small tear to my fathers eye, though he would probably never admit to it LOL. It runs great, starts every time without problem.
Here is the story behind the saw. My father had a very close freind who used to work in the lumber industry and this was his saw. My father and him used to injoy going out together and cutting fire wood for the winter. He was not much of a mechanic and would have my father do repairs and up-keep on his saw. After time he stopped cutting wood because of bad helth and one day came to my father with the saw. He was quite upset because his son had took his saw without asking and ran it with out oil mix, and it would not start. He asked my father to repair the saw and after taking it apart he found the main bearings and seals had gone. Oddly enough the piston, rings and cylinder didn't seem to be that bad though there was some scarring. Dad tryed to find a new piston and jug but had no luck (this was before the internet). He put the saw together with new bearings and seals and the saw seem to run just fine. When he presented it to his friend his friend told him that he wanted my father to keep the saw. Shortly after that he died, the saw is all my father has to remember him by. After running for a time the saw finally gave into the damage that had been done to the piston and cylinder and the saw found its self on a dusty corner of a work bench. I kept an eye out on the internet (this was before I knew of this place) and one day found someone who had a used but in GREAT shape piston, rings and jug. I pulled the saw down, stripped the paint, primed and repainted it, installed all new bearings, seals, gaskets, points, air filter, fuel line, carb kit, bar, and chain. I think it brought a small tear to my fathers eye, though he would probably never admit to it LOL. It runs great, starts every time without problem.
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I agree with Arrowhead,that was a good story.Quite a few of the Pioneer fans came to having Pioneers from similar stories.Glad to hear it makes your father happy.
Aviator,are you saying the auto paint people put the paint in spray cans.
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That's the best reason in the world to restore an old saw. Great job!
I talked to a local auto/commercial paint shop here last week. I told them I wanted a 2 part urethane paint. I explained I was restoring a chainsaw. He suggested since its such a small area, he could put it in spray cans. He said there's a plug you pull on the bottom of the can. Once pulled shake well and spray. He also said the spray can had an adjustable sprayer. I believe he said there is a four hour working time once you activate the can. I have all the equipment for painting, compressors/guns (my father is a retired auto painter) he gave me most of his equipment. I have painted several trucks myself, but I think I may give these a try. Sounds incredibly simple, and better yet--no clean up!
I'm sure you guys remember the nos e-bay bars from a few weeks ago. I did not have much money in pay-pal and figured I better cool it. Well, last week my wife and 11 year old son surprised me with the 24" I wanted for the P50 restore 
. I think having the picture of the bar as a screen saver did the trick! :hmm3grin2orange: I am extremely happy with it and thought that it was a very nice and thoughtful thing they did for me and wanted to share.
. I think having the picture of the bar as a screen saver did the trick! :hmm3grin2orange: I am extremely happy with it and thought that it was a very nice and thoughtful thing they did for me and wanted to share.
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I'm sure you guys remember the nos e-bay bars from a few weeks ago. I did not have much money in pay-pal and figured I better cool it. Well, last week my wife and 11 year old son surprised me with the 24" I wanted for the P50 restore
Wow! That was great of them to do that - you are a lucky man!
Pioneer Holiday 1110
Hi Guys. New to this site.
If anyone might know the answer to this question I have, the best chance is one of you here being able to answer it. I see there is a ton of experience with Pioneer saws here with friendly help.
Does anyone know if the Pioneer Holiday 1110 saw can have a different muffler put on it? For an example of this saw, it is the white one that was mentioned way back on page 10 with pictures from Pioneerguy600 on this thread.
Is it possible to make it quieter? The saw runs and cuts great but as many of you probably know, it wakes the dead. Check out that muffler they had from the factory in the photo on page 10. I have a bunch of wood to cut right now and wondered if it can be made a little more 'neighbor' friendly? If so, are there any aftermarket mufflers that can be used?
Thanks for the great pics and info here.
Hi Guys. New to this site.
If anyone might know the answer to this question I have, the best chance is one of you here being able to answer it. I see there is a ton of experience with Pioneer saws here with friendly help.
Does anyone know if the Pioneer Holiday 1110 saw can have a different muffler put on it? For an example of this saw, it is the white one that was mentioned way back on page 10 with pictures from Pioneerguy600 on this thread.
Is it possible to make it quieter? The saw runs and cuts great but as many of you probably know, it wakes the dead. Check out that muffler they had from the factory in the photo on page 10. I have a bunch of wood to cut right now and wondered if it can be made a little more 'neighbor' friendly? If so, are there any aftermarket mufflers that can be used?
Thanks for the great pics and info here.
That is a good question, I have never tried to put a different muffler on the 1110 but I would think one from the later Pioneer saws would most likely fit. If no one else posts a definite answer I can try some of the mufflers I have here from similar sized saws and may get one that fits.
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That looks pretty close to the 970/Holiday II projects I have in a box downstairs, and they have a full-sized "normal" muffler. I'd hazard a guess that you should be able to find some kind of muffler from one of the older ~50cc Pioneers that should fit up fine.
But, for an easier fix, just hang out here a bit more... Pretty soon you'll be wanting to make your saws louder, not that you could go much louder than those old matchbox mufflers. Well, there are the old Clintons with essentially a megaphone on the exhaust port - the "muffler" is just a cone-shaped opening. If the neighbors say anything, just hold the saw in the air and rev it out with a menacing expression on your face.
PS, where ya at in BC?
But, for an easier fix, just hang out here a bit more... Pretty soon you'll be wanting to make your saws louder, not that you could go much louder than those old matchbox mufflers. Well, there are the old Clintons with essentially a megaphone on the exhaust port - the "muffler" is just a cone-shaped opening. If the neighbors say anything, just hold the saw in the air and rev it out with a menacing expression on your face.
PS, where ya at in BC?
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finally got the elusive lighter I have been after. 12 bucks at antique store. I also got 4 saws today but this got me excited like presents at christmas..
Nice lighter Ric...so what were these four saws???
Or do we get to find out after Christmas???
Thanks. Any info that you or others could supply would be great. I wonder if they produced the saw this way for maximum power or had their hearing gone and they didn't noticed it was rather loud????
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awe ,, you know...orange white,, red. no green yellow for this thread.
aint you headed this way turkey time?
:greenchainsaw:
To be honest, the sound doesn't bother 'me' that much since I have a good set of hearing protection on.....but others don't seem to see it that way.
Having always been a fan of horror movies, I could hold the saw up (like in the movies) as the neighbor complained (like you said) and wave as I rev up the engine, but you may hear about it in the news later that day as he comes back at me with 'pay back time'.....
Yep, bringing my big saws and camping gear.
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